Beethoven
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Hi everyone,
So the negative factors are mentioned here in this forum from time to time, and yet 95% of the discussions are androgen related.
If I understand the theory correctly, after DHT binds to the receptors, the negative factors are "activated" and damage the follicles, and we get shedding and also miniaturization.
If this is correct, the idea is to leave alone the DHT and the receptors, i.e. do not reduce it internally or topically, and only intervene in the negative factors phase.
The main question is: suppose we leave alone the hormonal treatment and concentrate on reducing negative factors, could this still halt hairloss???
We have many negative factors, but I want to emphasize on two: PKC and TGF.
PKC could be inhibited with procyandins which are found in applepoly. Applepoly is already available in two competing commercial products already: PolyGrow(the one with parrot) and Spectral RS.
The following link have links to 7(!) papers about applepoly, all by the same group of Japanese researchers
http://www.applepolyphenols.com/studies/hairgrowth.htm
I have two things to mention:
1.The results seem good. So why people are not discussing it? how come almost no one here is trying to add it to his regimen?
2. Those 7 articles give a lot of information about the effectivness of the treatment, and yet products that we have almost zero information about them receive a lot more of attention (On Tricomin we have only one press-report and zero research papers. On Prox-N we have only the promises of Dr proctor, etc,etc).
TGF: there are two articles claiming that TGF could be inhibited by L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate, both were sponsered by Henkel. One is In-Vitro and the Other is In-vivo, showing good results! How come no one tries it here???
BTW I tried Both the internal and external treatments (Propecia, topical spironolactone, Fluridil). All of them were pretty effective in reducing my hairloss, but all of them also gave me sides (yes, the topicals too). So right now I'm trying this route. I have the two AP products and the LCLT product and I'm trying them for few months. Still too early to really judge, but they do seem to help a little.
So the negative factors are mentioned here in this forum from time to time, and yet 95% of the discussions are androgen related.
If I understand the theory correctly, after DHT binds to the receptors, the negative factors are "activated" and damage the follicles, and we get shedding and also miniaturization.
If this is correct, the idea is to leave alone the DHT and the receptors, i.e. do not reduce it internally or topically, and only intervene in the negative factors phase.
The main question is: suppose we leave alone the hormonal treatment and concentrate on reducing negative factors, could this still halt hairloss???
We have many negative factors, but I want to emphasize on two: PKC and TGF.
PKC could be inhibited with procyandins which are found in applepoly. Applepoly is already available in two competing commercial products already: PolyGrow(the one with parrot) and Spectral RS.
The following link have links to 7(!) papers about applepoly, all by the same group of Japanese researchers
http://www.applepolyphenols.com/studies/hairgrowth.htm
I have two things to mention:
1.The results seem good. So why people are not discussing it? how come almost no one here is trying to add it to his regimen?
2. Those 7 articles give a lot of information about the effectivness of the treatment, and yet products that we have almost zero information about them receive a lot more of attention (On Tricomin we have only one press-report and zero research papers. On Prox-N we have only the promises of Dr proctor, etc,etc).
TGF: there are two articles claiming that TGF could be inhibited by L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate, both were sponsered by Henkel. One is In-Vitro and the Other is In-vivo, showing good results! How come no one tries it here???
BTW I tried Both the internal and external treatments (Propecia, topical spironolactone, Fluridil). All of them were pretty effective in reducing my hairloss, but all of them also gave me sides (yes, the topicals too). So right now I'm trying this route. I have the two AP products and the LCLT product and I'm trying them for few months. Still too early to really judge, but they do seem to help a little.