My Mother Can't Come To Terms With Me Being Genetic Trash

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I'm 20, taller than 6'0, quite slim. As for my face - I know I'm nothing special, but definitely don't think I'm terribly ugly though. Anyway, I had decent hair at 17 and a beard better than most 30 year olds (quite rare since I'm caucasian). Although at this age, I had a sh*t physique (proper looked like I had an eating disorder - weighed 140 lbs at my height). Hit the gym in 2018/2019 and got that all sorted. During this time, my hairline was receding from NW1.5 to NW2.5 but I just accepted it because I assumed I'd at least keep the density like my dad. Last year I then made plans to go to uni, then in these last 2 months, the frontal central region of my hair has started thinning. If I'm in a lowly-lit room, I look like a solid NW2 with a high forehead, but when I stand under a bright light you can see my f*****g scalp in the middle on the hairline. Honestly, what's the point in any of it - Why should I keep going to gym, now that I don't get roasted for 'looking like a holocaust victim' anymore, I'll get roasted for being the bald guy instead? Why should I even go off to university, to get a higher paying job so I can buy a bigger house in years to come and live alone in it? Why should I do anything but LDAR? I've been to flat parties at universities before and with the harsh overhead lighting in the kitchen area (where all the drinking and socialising happens), I'll be looking like the f*****g crypt keeper on the sesh when term starts in September. Plus, to make it worse, I'll be hanging around with a high number of 17 and 18 year olds as I decided to go to university late.

To top it off though, my mum makes comments about my hair saying things like 'Did you get a shorter haircut recently?' and 'Your hair looks thin, you should give it a wash with shampoo'. Inside my blood BOILS when she says this, but I calmly explain to her that's its male pattern baldness, she raises her tone, gets defensive and starts talking about her own hairline saying she too has a high forehead, as if her female hair situation has ANY f*****g RELEVANCE TO ME. I explain to her how only the men in the family's genes are relevant and she still invalidates what I'm saying, by telling me about her dad (an NW2 at 80, genetics I obviously didn't inherit). My dad's side was filled with guys who were mainly NW3 vertex by 40, who then don't advance past NW4 until the end of their lives. This frontal thinning makes me feel that I haven't got their genes and that I'm destined to be looking like Old Man Wickles among university students by the end of my 4 year course (I'll be 24 then.) f*** MY LIFE. I can also tell that she's getting more and more concerned about how sexually inactive I am. I say I'm depressed and again, she becomes flustered and tells me to 'stop being such a waster' and 'go get a life', saying 'I'm the master of my own destiny'. I used to be just sad about this ordeal, but I'm starting to get angry about it lately, which isn't like me at all. Don't want to do anything stupid. All in all, she just can't take that she gave birth to a bum like myself.

I do have the money for a hair transplant (I have over £10,000 saved), but I know I need to hold off for as long as possible to let it all stabilise. I feel like if I have my dad's genetics I'd be a great candidate, but by the time I'm ready for it, university will be over and I'll be back to wagecucking with no opportunity to meet new people once again. Tricky situation. Currently not on any medication. Scared of Finasteride's potential side effects, they're about the only thing that could make me more depressed than I am already.

Anyway, was nice to get to vent to a community I know understands, hopefully this post lets some of the other youngsters on here know they're not alone.

Cheers, guys.
 
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Off topic, but are there any cross-community towns in Northern Ireland? Looks amazing, but living on streets where the kerbs are blue, red and white look really depressing.
 

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I would try finasteride for 6 months and see how it works. I’ve had no side effects so far, (been on Proscar for 3 years) and it has completely stopped the hair loss for me (although I’m not sure if I would actually loose more hair if I stopped Finasteride). Keep going to the gym, it will help your physical and mental health.
 

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Moms never understand male pattern baldness. Mine was in denial for years too but finally accepted it right before I had a transplant. Had a lot of stupid arguments with her. Don't be mad at her though.

Get on minoxidil at least until you're ready for a transplant. Might help with the hairline thinning if you're lucky. A lot of people on this forum are on finasteride and experience little to no side effects but I understand the risk.

Also balding behind the transplant is nowhere near as bad as hairline balding imo.
 

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Get on oral minoxidil at 5mg.
Start injecting testosterone aswell you will gain alot of muscle even if you didn't work out, girls can also smell it subconsciously. It will improve you facially too if you have a baby face. You will need to be on finasteride with it though otherwise your hair will be gone pretty fast.
 

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Get on oral minoxidil at 5mg.
Start injecting testosterone aswell you will gain alot of muscle even if you didn't work out, girls can also smell it subconsciously. It will improve you facially too if you have a baby face. You will need to be on finasteride with it though otherwise your hair will be gone pretty fast.

Sigh
 

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My parents think im a freak for being so concerned over my hair loss, it's natural, your getting old, happens to everyone blah blah blah I told her about this community and how many men are seriously concerned over it, she said your freaks too. lol Stepdad thinks the same, but he just turned 60 and still has all his hair.
 

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My parents think im a freak for being so concerned over my hair loss, it's natural, your getting old, happens to everyone blah blah blah I told her about this community and how many men are seriously concerned over it, she said your freaks too. lol Stepdad thinks the same, but he just turned 60 and still has all his hair.

Full headed hair 60 year old dosnt understand the fuss about balding. Rightio..... I don't know where to start with that one.
As for your mum I'd like to put her in the body of an average looking guy in his 20s who is balding in the year 2019 and see how she copes.
 

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My parents think im a freak for being so concerned over my hair loss, it's natural, your getting old, happens to everyone blah blah blah I told her about this community and how many men are seriously concerned over it, she said your freaks too. lol Stepdad thinks the same, but he just turned 60 and still has all his hair.
Ask her if it isnt such a big deal then why did she go out of her way to marry a fullhead?...I noticed ALL my fenale cousins married full heads despite my uncles being bald. Hmmm
 

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Off topic, but are there any cross-community towns in Northern Ireland? Looks amazing, but living on streets where the kerbs are blue, red and white look really depressing.
Yeah, loads. The majority of places are filled with people like myself who don't give a f***. The sectarian people seem to be a minority these days, which is good. I live in Belfast and I've had one bad experience my whole life (was 13 or 14 and wearing a shirt which happened to have a Union Jack on it and some chav in his 20s spat at me and my friend). Nothing major.

My mum is worse. She was a Stacy her whole life to use incel terms, very young looking for her age until now and insists that looks don't matter and I should just accept aging.

Yeah, my mum laughs at short dudes and acknowledges how much height matters as a man because our whole family has strong genes in that area. Yet she knows our hair genes aren't as strong thanks to my dad's side, so she acts super blue-pilled about hairloss. Pure cognitive dissonance.

Stay away from incel forums
Too late. Been browsing them since 2016 before the 'manosphere' even became mainstream like it is now. They don't make me hate women like most folks on there, I mainly browse them because the content is relatable and I don't feel like such an outcast. All my friends are big hits with ladies and it's tough being the way I am around my mates who pull multiple times when we go to clubs. Lookism.net let's me know I'm not alone. Similar to what this forum is doing for me.

Moms never understand male pattern baldness. Mine was in denial for years too but finally accepted it right before I had a transplant. Had a lot of stupid arguments with her. Don't be mad at her though.

Get on minoxidil at least until you're ready for a transplant. Might help with the hairline thinning if you're lucky. A lot of people on this forum are on finasteride and experience little to no side effects but I understand the risk.

Also balding behind the transplant is nowhere near as bad as hairline balding imo.
Thought about Minoxidil, but it's pricey and all the shedding issues sound horrible. Also hate how fast you lose progress if you cease using it.

Totally agree about hairline balding. I work with a lucky bastard who's in his late 50s and NW1.5 but thinning 3 quarters of the way back on the top of his head (super weird pattern). He's tall so no one really can see his thin spot at the top of his head unless he's sitting down. Still looks super youthful thanks to the hairline.

Full headed hair 60 year old dosnt understand the fuss about balding. Rightio..... I don't know where to start with that one.
As for your mum I'd like to put her in the body of an average looking guy in his 20s who is balding in the year 2019 and see how she copes.
Yeah, gotta love when a member of the NW1 gang tells you 'Embrace the baldness' or 'Shave it and grow your beard out' or 'Just get jacked and rock the bald look'.
 
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Is your lookism name Crisick? Wait no I think you’re Undisputed. Never mind you’re a Nerdic cuck. Go f*** some trannys but I’m the tranny king.
Nah, I'm not crisick or Undisputed. I have a few accounts but I'm not a frequent poster on any of them. Haven't made a post since last year probably.

LOL, f*** outta here. My hair's dark brown, eyes are green, eyebrows are black and beard is a copper colour. I'm no blonde nerdic cuck, nice try though. ;)
 
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Totally agree about hairline balding. I work with a lucky bastard who's in his late 50s and NW1.5 but thinning 3 quarters of the way back on the top of his head (super weird pattern). He's tall so no one really can see his thin spot at the top of his head unless he's sitting down. Still looks super youthful thanks to the hairline.
Sounds somewhat similar to Prince Harry's balding pattern, whose nice looks are barely affected by his male pattern baldness pattern imo.
 

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Sounds somewhat similar to Prince Harry's balding pattern, whose nice looks are barely affected by his male pattern baldness pattern imo.
Yeah, kind of, it's further forward on his scalp and it's not as wide, like a slim oval that points towards the front of his head. Really weird.

I reckon he's on something for it and has been for years. He's definitely conscious about his hairloss. I've heard him talk about hair twice - once where he roasted my colleague's hairline and another where he was complaining about how he's having to start using hair gel to cover up his own hairline, to which I was like 'Yeah, big deal, try having to do that shite in your 20s, not when you're nearly in your 60s and you still have a better one than mine').
 

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I know this sounds ironic considering I'm also on a hair loss forum, but try to care less about what others perceive of you. ultimately nobody cares about you. I used to be in my head a lot too and always worry about how I was lookin' to others but really man, you have to abandon that. Also, you are literally conjuring scenarios in your head about things that haven't even happened lol. you have no fuckin' idea what the future will bring, you could be dead long before you reach that forever alone moment with your imaginary future house(also being in your uni friend's kitchen in some imaginary party lol)

Regarding your mom. she will eventually get used to the idea that you are going bald. Mine did. just seems alien at first considering it started so early. I started losing my hair at 19. Find something to do with your life. uni is a pile of shite. just filled with a bunch of mostly entitled hedonistic c**** that won't actually amount to much. :)
 

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When I go out without a hat, a lot of people are laughing when they look at me because my forehead is big.
Maybe I exagerate?? I really don't think so but myabe yes.

I know this sounds ironic considering I'm also on a hair loss forum, but try to care less about what others perceive of you. ultimately nobody cares about you. I used to be in my head a lot too and always worry about how I was lookin' to others but really man, you have to abandon that.
 
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