Monofilament Base- Best Tape Or Glue ??
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Hum...not much response on this post... I assume no one is wearing mono lace...
I asked because the texture of lace very slippery and shiny, so not sure of best tape or glue.
Guess that I'll expriment with tape and glue I have on hand (ultrahold, ghostbond, no shine, blue, green, SuperTape, and thins)
I asked because the texture of lace very slippery and shiny, so not sure of best tape or glue.
Guess that I'll expriment with tape and glue I have on hand (ultrahold, ghostbond, no shine, blue, green, SuperTape, and thins)
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I asked my supplier, you use the same adhesives as you do for French Lace.
I am worried. My first system (already ordered) is a fine mono base with PU sides and back, and 1/4 inch lace at the hairline. I was talked into going for more durability with my first unit, until I get the hang of it.
Did I just make a mistake? Sounds like nobody is wearing mono anymore.
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Ask your supplier what kind of lace is at the front..I was told swiss but it wasn't, reason why I got a 75 refund.
If it isn't french or swiss, ask for it or possibly cancel your order.
If you do not expose the hairline (backwards ex) you should be ok. In my case, I wear a backwards style..so mono not ideal
Thank you for the advice AxC123. They also told me Swiss lace at the hairline. I was also concerned about the "shine" of the lace material which you described. I ordered 90% grey synthetic hair, light density, and am now concerned that the monofilament base will be visible everywhere if it has a shine to it. I ordered from a salon so hopefully they know what they're doing, they will be seeing me for the attachment and cut-in. Will be awkward if it's something I can't wear.
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One day at a time. Try not to worry.. if they said swiss lace at front you should be fine. I have seen mono with swiss lace online so it exists..
To determine if swiss or mono, look at the grid pattern. If honeycomb shape holes, it is lace. If square or checkerboard, it is mono.
https://images.app.goo.gl/pEkkfnwPACUCKaaT9
As for the other parts of hairpiece being mono, it should be ok and not shine. I also wear grey synthetic and hair shines like silver ...(a mix of 100% at front, 90 top and 80 back) which should dissimulate the shine of the base. The main thing is the front hairline.
Let us know how it goes!
Happy for you and best of luck.
( where abouts are you and which salon?)
I will know by mid-December. I am in Western Canada, I will send you the name of the salon once I figure out how to send a PM. New member so I am still learning how to maneuver in the forum. So far the entire process has been stressful and scary for me so I'm glad I found this place. Thanks for your help.
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Hi Leduc
I don't think you made a mistake. Monofilament is rather old-fashioned now, but it definitely is tougher than lace. If your whole unit was to be monofilament I think that could be a problem in terms of the detectability of the hairline, but the fact that they are specifying that the front is Swiss lace indicates that they are alive to that issue and are dealing with it. The only thing that strikes me as a bit surprising is that the lace strip at the hairline is only a quarter-inch wide. When I have seen this strip idea done before, the strip has usually been an inch or so. That means there will be a seam a quarter-inch behind your hairline, so you will need to make sure that it is not visible. I suggest when you have your fitting you get the salon to attach the piece at the hairline over your remaining natural hair, to make sure you are happy with the look before you let them buzz your hair down.
I don't think the monofilament should create any problems with shininess unless it is a low density piece. Do you know what the density is that you have ordered?
Noah
Hi Noah,
I did order the light density, the salon assured me it would be undetectable so I will find out for sure in December. I am definitely having second thoughts about my choices, I should have done more research before ordering and asked a lot more questions at the salon. Could you please PM me the info that you provided to new members in the Quiff and Co. thread. If it doesn't work out with the unit I have on order I will start over, but I will need to make more educated choices next time around, if it comes to that.
Thanks in advance.
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Let us know how it goes. I personally want to try mono, for durability.
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I wear French lace pieces and there is no way the hairline looks realistic: "Wall of Hair" effect.
The "wall of hair" has me concerned also. I've been combing my hair back for many years but with the system I plan to keep the hairline covered. What's puzzling to me is that the most common hair style I have seen in images and videos for hair replacement systems is with the hairline exposed, and a good number do look too dense and unrealistic.
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@cottonReville - There is no need to put up with that. You are just not ordering the right thing, or not ordering it from the right place. Definitely hair systems are available on the market which have realistic undetectable hairlines.
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I think that is just because they want to show off how realistic the hairlines are. Basically, with a hair system, if the hairline is undetectable the whole system is undetectable, unless you make a careless mistake like allowing the sun to create a colour mismatch.
But if you choose a style which doesn't expose the hairline, or only partially exposes it, you will be making your life easier, especially for the first few weeks, because achieving a perfect hairline attachment is the most frequent teething problem experienced by new wearers.
PS - I sent you a PM.
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People (or more the salons) like to expose the hairline because it looks good. It's something they can use for sales material.
Don't forget that people go into this without a clue - and their salons guide them. And the salons know these things do lose hair - having a light density is arguably an issue before you have a spare and are learning.
Don't forget that people go into this without a clue - and their salons guide them. And the salons know these things do lose hair - having a light density is arguably an issue before you have a spare and are learning.
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You are making a couple of incorrect assumptions:
1. Salons are somehow pushing their clients into styles that look great on websites, and not on the clients themselves. I can tell you that many of the clients that come to us know what they want already. As a stylist, I have clients who come in knowing exactly what they want, and some who need guidence. It is very the rare the client who says "do whatever you think is best". I do advise hair system clients that an exposed hairline requires more work, some chose that path.
2. "People go into this without a clue". This is again a false assumption. About a third of the guys I speak with have prior experience, about another third have done their homework. It's about a third who come to be with no idea of what to do.
3. Somehow getting a ligher desity is bad. You need to buy a system whose density matches your age and existing hair situation. Most of the systems that I order or advise clienst to order (if they don't order from us) go with medium-light. My own systems are medium-light, and they last me about six months (90% gray/syntehtic). Most of my clients go 3-4 months before needing a replacement. A well-made French lace system should last at least 3-4 months, and is more likely to fade, than to be too light in densitydue to shedding.
There are many many hair system wearers who are quite happy with their systems, they tend NOT to go on forums. Out of all of my local clients, only one found me on a forum.
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So my brother was in the salon getting a de-re, and I asked to speak with the woman who does his work. She's extraordinarily well-versed on topic of hairpieces.
Firstly, my brother wears a fine welded mono piece w a poly perimeter. Not surprised as he's UNGENTLE w things - a bull in a china shop, if you will.
Secondly, she says, as @Noah has maintained, she says 99% iso alcohol is a "different animal" from 91%.
Lastly, she recommends Admatte tape as it doesn't breakdown into a mess.
Firstly, my brother wears a fine welded mono piece w a poly perimeter. Not surprised as he's UNGENTLE w things - a bull in a china shop, if you will.
Secondly, she says, as @Noah has maintained, she says 99% iso alcohol is a "different animal" from 91%.
Lastly, she recommends Admatte tape as it doesn't breakdown into a mess.
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The only piece I've had so far whose hairline is gorgeous (graduated) is the 100-dollars off Amazon .04mm all-poly one.
I just can't wear it now as it's too hot for me. Waiting for winter.
I just can't wear it now as it's too hot for me. Waiting for winter.