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Mixtures To Make minoxidil Work For Nonsponders

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  1. ComeBackTemples

    ComeBackTemples Established Member My Regimen

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    Hi there
    Apparently for only 30 percent of minoxidil users the solution does something positiv. I was not a natural responder on my first 4 month trial.

    I am wondering what options i could try in Order that minoxidil makes my hair grow. I heard a mixture with rethanol is helpful!

    On another Note, i read on follicathought that a New Shampoo is coming out that should be helpful for non minoxidil Responders. Hope we do not have to wwait too long

    Anyone knows more about when and where to get this Stuff
     
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    Ray Baz Established Member My Regimen

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    have you ever tried natural methods with food?
     
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    Derelict Senior Member My Regimen

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    Yeah retin-a helps, you could always try low dose oral too.
     
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    pegasus2 Senior Member My Regimen

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    I believe it's closer to 40%. The only two things AFAIK that have been shown to turn non-responders into responders are tretinoin and microneedling.
     
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    HairCook Experienced Member My Regimen

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    tretinoin, otherwise applied biology said they want to release their non-responder shampoo in 2020.
     
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    ComeBackTemples Established Member My Regimen

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    Indeed, that could be interesting. However, in another forum it was mentioned this Shampoo has no Chance of success as it is only a Shampoo and hence is too short on your head to reach the follicle. Hopefully that is not true.

    I wrote applied Biology but no answer so far
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Senior Member My Regimen

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    TRETINOIN, cause it increase . the enzyme that convert minoxidil into active minoxidil in the scalp ( that is why some people are not good responder, simple low levels of this enzyme ) .
    And this is why the old Xandrox was so superior than minoxidil alone, or what most clinic use since the early 90s.
     
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    Dr. Lee's Xandrox success had more to do with the way he compounded his formulas, which no company has been able to replicate since. Not all of his minoxidil products contained retinoic acid. The 15% Xandrox formula for example didn't include this and people had tremendous success with it - myself included. This is what Dr. Lee had to say about tretinoin/retinoic acid:

    Retinoic acid was an important additional ingredient when minoxidil solutions only contained 2% minoxidil (Rogaine). With higher concentration minoxidil solutions, there is no need for retinoic acid, which can have more drawbacks than benefits. Retinoic acid acts as a chemical peel and can cause drying, scaling, redness and irritation of the scalp. Moreover, chronic use of retinoic acid makes the skin more sensitive to sun damage.
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Sorry, you are wrong. It also contain corticoid "17-valerate hydrocortisone" .
    If you compound it in a REAL pharmacy, like DR LEE did it, you should get the same results.

    From where you get that "retinoic acid, which can have more drawbacks than benefits." All the studies show the oppositive you are telling. It is just a question or dose to use.
    Plus, more minoxidil will not resolve and do anything to a person that don't respond good to minoxidil, the problem is not in the amount of minoxidil, the problem it is on how much it get activated to minoxidil sulphate.
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Senior Member My Regimen

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    So ComeBackTemples , What you should do ?
    Buy the lowest tretinoin cream dose you can find and start from there. Or even better, find a real pharmacy that compound it ( start with minoxidil 5 % plus tretinoin 0.01% ) .
    If you use the cream, apply the minoxidil first and then the cream.
     
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    https://web.archive.org/web/20060427194607/http://www.xandrox.com/X15 FAQ's.htm

    Here's a picture of the ingredients of Dr Lee's Xandrox 15: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/attachments/0ca982ac-0c37-4668-aac6-ca0ff370c02b-jpeg.123511/.
     
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