Has anyone used a combination of microneedling and LLT? Are there any considerations to be had when doing microneedling and LLLT? Would LLLT be beneficial or harmful immediately after microneedling or should a period of time like 24 hours be sufficient?
Microneedling And Llt, Anyone Have Any Experience?
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Lllt stops inflammation so the day before needling it should help. However after next few days not sure if it should be avoided ??
I have.
Micro needled 1.5 for 11 months and 6 months after I used LLLT for 5 months.
I still have the irestore device now and am planning to return it as it doesn’t work (for me atleast)
Got on finasteride a little less than 3 months ago too.
Don’t think microneedling is too effective without some sort of topical or inhibitor to create a good enviroment.
Were you micro needling concurrently with LLLT? what was your regimen?
Microneedling and then minutes later do LLLT?
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One experience I've had with wounding and LLT is that I get some intense itching.
I have an $800 red light therapy device which I use but I don't think I want to use it immideatly after wouding because they do opposite things. But it does make sense to me at least, to use photobiomodulation a hours after wounding, maybe like 8.
There's a wounding graph where it shows what's happening to cells as a function of time but I don't know where it is. That should help tell you when you could incorporate it.
I have an $800 red light therapy device which I use but I don't think I want to use it immideatly after wouding because they do opposite things. But it does make sense to me at least, to use photobiomodulation a hours after wounding, maybe like 8.
There's a wounding graph where it shows what's happening to cells as a function of time but I don't know where it is. That should help tell you when you could incorporate it.
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since the goal of LLLT is irradiate cells deeper than superficial skin , wounding should facilitate the access to these cells and improve results.
authors describe that hair is in fact an obstacle between the light source and the target cells.
I've been using my iRestore for 4 months with absolutely no effect at all. But I believe things would be worse without the machine.
make no mistake: LLLT is only like 2% of what finasteride is capable to do. using LLLT as main therapy , even with wounding, is suicide.
authors describe that hair is in fact an obstacle between the light source and the target cells.
I've been using my iRestore for 4 months with absolutely no effect at all. But I believe things would be worse without the machine.
make no mistake: LLLT is only like 2% of what finasteride is capable to do. using LLLT as main therapy , even with wounding, is suicide.
I've been on Theradome for about 9 months and finasteride for about a year. I didn't really start seeing results until I started microneedling with 1.5mm about a few weeks ago (2 sessions so far). Little hairs have sprouted along my hairline and I'm trying to determine the most effective way to use the LLLT and microneedling combo
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it sounds poorly efficient but still plausible. I think:
- LLLT would have to be done before "holes" are closed but not immediately after because of difraction/absorption light capabilities of hemoglobin in blood?
-hair should not be longer that half an inch?
I'm already tired
- LLLT would have to be done before "holes" are closed but not immediately after because of difraction/absorption light capabilities of hemoglobin in blood?
-hair should not be longer that half an inch?
I'm already tired
Any news on the trial? I can’t seem to find the results and they did say should come out in May. Thanks
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Yes, I'm interested in this study as well.
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After only four sessions with LLT? Your own device or professional?
I watched these fellas
OMG device so very powerful it seemed to give a positive result the first 3-4 months I used it the first time but not committed to try that again Because of the shed
I had two microneedling sessions done at my dermatologist clinic and the LLLT was done right after them. I use the same protocol at home. So i suppose that there's no problem to do it a few minutes later.
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I don't understand, the shed? LLT caused that?
I also have a Solawave red light therapy device at home, and I’ve been wondering the exact same thing. From what I’ve gathered, using LLLT right after microneedling can actually be a huge win for speeding up the healing process and bringing down that initial "sunburned" redness. Even though microneedling is about controlled wounding and red light is about repair, they usually work together pretty well since the light helps the cells recover faster once the channels are open.
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The evidence on these two isn't equal, which is worth knowing before you put time into either.
Microneedling has the better data, but it works as a minoxidil booster rather than on its own. The controlled injury helps the scalp respond to minoxidil, and the one solid trial on it had the combo clearly beating minoxidil alone. People already responding to minoxidil get the most out of adding it. Solo, it does very little.
LLLT, the red-light caps, is real but modest. The devices are FDA cleared and studies show a small density bump, but it's more of a slowing and maintenance tool than noticeable regrowth, and it needs months of consistent use to do even that. Neither of these is a standalone fix though. They're add-ons to a minoxidil and finasteride base. If you're already on those, microneedling is the one I'd prioritise, done shallow and not too often. LLLT is fine to stack if you don't mind the cost and the routine.
Microneedling has the better data, but it works as a minoxidil booster rather than on its own. The controlled injury helps the scalp respond to minoxidil, and the one solid trial on it had the combo clearly beating minoxidil alone. People already responding to minoxidil get the most out of adding it. Solo, it does very little.
LLLT, the red-light caps, is real but modest. The devices are FDA cleared and studies show a small density bump, but it's more of a slowing and maintenance tool than noticeable regrowth, and it needs months of consistent use to do even that. Neither of these is a standalone fix though. They're add-ons to a minoxidil and finasteride base. If you're already on those, microneedling is the one I'd prioritise, done shallow and not too often. LLLT is fine to stack if you don't mind the cost and the routine.