Microneedling And Llt, Anyone Have Any Experience?

[jamesband]

Has anyone used a combination of microneedling and LLT? Are there any considerations to be had when doing microneedling and LLLT? Would LLLT be beneficial or harmful immediately after microneedling or should a period of time like 24 hours be sufficient?

 

[jamesband]

There is also a belgravia study happening, but I can't post any links. Their results should be released in May

 

[Jk1]

There is also a belgravia study happening, but I can't post any links. Their results should be released in May

Lllt stops inflammation so the day before needling it should help. However after next few days not sure if it should be avoided ??

 

[Dhldan]

Has anyone used a combination of microneedling and LLT? Are there any considerations to be had when doing microneedling and LLLT? Would LLLT be beneficial or harmful immediately after microneedling or should a period of time like 24 hours be sufficient?

I have.

Micro needled 1.5 for 11 months and 6 months after I used LLLT for 5 months.

I still have the irestore device now and am planning to return it as it doesn’t work (for me atleast)

Got on finasteride a little less than 3 months ago too.

Don’t think microneedling is too effective without some sort of topical or inhibitor to create a good enviroment.

 

[jamesband]

I have.

Micro needled 1.5 for 11 months and 6 months after I used LLLT for 5 months.

I still have the irestore device now and am planning to return it as it doesn’t work (for me atleast)

Got on finasteride a little less than 3 months ago too.

Don’t think microneedling is too effective without some sort of topical or inhibitor to create a good enviroment.

Were you micro needling concurrently with LLLT? what was your regimen?

Microneedling and then minutes later do LLLT?

 

[Joe Marini]

One experience I've had with wounding and LLT is that I get some intense itching.

I have an $800 red light therapy device which I use but I don't think I want to use it immideatly after wouding because they do opposite things. But it does make sense to me at least, to use photobiomodulation a hours after wounding, maybe like 8.

There's a wounding graph where it shows what's happening to cells as a function of time but I don't know where it is. That should help tell you when you could incorporate it.

 

[NotInmywatch]

since the goal of LLLT is irradiate cells deeper than superficial skin , wounding should facilitate the access to these cells and improve results.
authors describe that hair is in fact an obstacle between the light source and the target cells.

I've been using my iRestore for 4 months with absolutely no effect at all. But I believe things would be worse without the machine.

make no mistake: LLLT is only like 2% of what finasteride is capable to do. using LLLT as main therapy , even with wounding, is suicide.

 

[jamesband]

I've been on Theradome for about 9 months and finasteride for about a year. I didn't really start seeing results until I started microneedling with 1.5mm about a few weeks ago (2 sessions so far). Little hairs have sprouted along my hairline and I'm trying to determine the most effective way to use the LLLT and microneedling combo

 

[NotInmywatch]

it sounds poorly efficient but still plausible. I think:
- LLLT would have to be done before "holes" are closed but not immediately after because of difraction/absorption light capabilities of hemoglobin in blood?
-hair should not be longer that half an inch?
I'm already tired

 

[Trying2]

There is also a belgravia study happening, but I can't post any links. Their results should be released in May

Any news on the trial? I can’t seem to find the results and they did say should come out in May. Thanks

 

[Ivo Shandor]

Yes, I'm interested in this study as well.

 

[Trying2]

My feeling is the study didn’t do to well? They should published the results by now. Has anyone had any positive results with lllt? I started it up again a month ago but always seem to shed way too much then stop after 4-5 sessions

 

[Ivo Shandor]

My feeling is the study didn’t do to well? They should published the results by now. Has anyone had any positive results with lllt? I started it up again a month ago but always seem to shed way too much then stop after 4-5 sessions

After only four sessions with LLT? Your own device or professional?
I watched these fellas

and they talk about the ones you can buy and the top end ones used by doctors.

 

[Trying2]

After only four sessions with LLT? Your own device or professional?
I watched these fellas

and they talk about the ones you can buy and the top end ones used by doctors.

OMG device so very powerful it seemed to give a positive result the first 3-4 months I used it the first time but not committed to try that again Because of the shed

 

[PRM]

it sounds poorly efficient but still plausible. I think:
- LLLT would have to be done before "holes" are closed but not immediately after because of difraction/absorption light capabilities of hemoglobin in blood?
-hair should not be longer that half an inch?
I'm already tired

I had two microneedling sessions done at my dermatologist clinic and the LLLT was done right after them. I use the same protocol at home. So i suppose that there's no problem to do it a few minutes later.

 

[Ivo Shandor]

OMG device so very powerful it seemed to give a positive result the first 3-4 months I used it the first time but not committed to try that again Because of the shed

I don't understand, the shed? LLT caused that?