Your existence doesn't disprove what I've said. What I said is true for many many people. I never said what I'm mentioning applies to 100% of people. By you not having side effects you're simply the luckier % than others
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Your existence doesn't disprove what I've said. What I said is true for many many people. I never said what I'm mentioning applies to 100% of people. By you not having side effects you're simply the luckier % than others
Give me peer reviewed studies and sources that state that masturbation increases, on average, hair loss and also for the claims that finasteride is not as helpful as we know it is and that many people get side effects.
Again, I didn't say Finasteride doesn't work for 100% of people.
You won't get studies on everything especially things like masturbation, just like you won't get studies done on the concoction of topicals that people apply to their scalp and often get better results.
The guideline I used for masturbation is only for those who are sensitive to DHT and Masturbate, in SOME people, it accelerated thinning/miniaturization/hairloss. Not everyone. It's not a golden rule. However, many people have claimed that they experienced accelerated hairloss when Masturbating. It must be noted that stopping or not Masturbating won't cause you to not lose your hair either if you have male pattern baldness. There's a difference in these 2 statements.
Also, regarding Finasteride, i don't trust it any more, especially after Merck was sued for giving false results, the real side effects of Finasteride, and the amount of people that get side effects and the amount of people that get irreversible side effects. They downplayed it intentionally, which in my books is unforgivable.
People don't realize that it's not simply hiding details of side effects. For the false information to be authorized and published, mean a lot of people had to be bribed, bought off and paid to keep quiet and produce false positive results.
FDA trials for drug approvals cost approximately $19 million dollars. There's enormous money in there. When it was found they had worse results than they wanted and with permanent side effects they possibly thought they would possibly lose FDA approval, so they obviously paid alot of people off. Because imagine approximately $19 million dollars spent on trials gone to waste because of some side effects and above desirable negative results. It's far easier to pay a few people off and push the drug through clearance.
These things are major scars in Mercks integrity and says a lot! If they were able to hide results, there's not much they wouldn't do.
I mean they got sued for $4.3 MILLION. Not just once, 1100 times. If Merck and Propecia were so true, that obviously wouldn't have happened.
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How long did you use Finasteride for?
1 year and 5 months. I actually recall now why I had Finasteride and Minoxidil in my forum regimen now, it's because at the end of my use of Finasteride, it was only then that I realized there were actual hairloss forums online. This was in 2017, which as you can see is when my account was created. I didn't use my account to post back then but just for browsing and completely forgot about my account after about 3 months of reading the threads on this forum and others. I only remember I had an account 2 months ago which is when I started posting for the first time.
So yeah I've tried Minoxidil and Finasteride sufficiently. My thoughts are not from someone who used Finasteride for a few weeks.
Finasteride seemed to drain my hair and made it super thin and dry and weak with so much less density. From having being a NW1.5 when I started Finasteride, it gave me such thin hair and diffused thinning I could see my scalp under certain lighting.
My hair got 10x better, thicker and greater density after I stopped Finasteride. That's when I knew I was better off Finasteride than on.
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. And yeah you still provided no proof whatsoever that masturbation can increase the severity of hair loss. Also there are other studies on finasteride out there. Not only done by Merck. And they had the same findings. So if you make a claim that disagrees with the current scientific consensus you have to back that up with actual scientific, peer reviewed studies or you make your own peer reviewed studies. Otherwise, I'm sorry, you cannot be taken seriously. It's just rambling as of now. And that's that.
There will probably never be sufficient studies on Masturbation because who is gonna fund it? Exactly, no one.
Actually, that's where you're wrong. You don't need to have a study to talk about what's real and what's not. How do you explain how some people get really great results on anecdotal evidence compared to drugs like Finasteride that have actual studies?
Lack of evidence or studies does not mean lack of truth. Even the admin of the very forum you're using right now said this in the homepage of this forum.
People know their bodies better than anyone. And when thousands of people on the internet have reported negative things about Finasteride, if you call that rambling and you can't see a pattern, then I'm sorry you can't be taken seriously. Everyone that knows Finasteride or Propecia knows how potentially dangerous it is or has heard of someone that has had side effects of it. So that alone should tell you how many people actually get side effects.
Not everyone has the backing of Big Pharma to do studies that costs loads of money.
And yes theres many "independent" studies on Finasteride but there's also many people who secretly work for Big Pharma, are bought off by Big Pharma, and many who get commission/compensation for marketing Finasteride. Also, I don't trust these studies portraying Finasteride in a positive light when even the FDA, which is thought to be the most honest regulatory system, essentially let Merck commit fraud. So for those reasons I don't believe everything I read because clearly and evidently, studies can be crooked. Even in the most reputable of Regulatory Associations, so what makes you think I'd wouldn't be as easy as stealing candy from a baby to crook smaller "independant" studies. It's light work for Big Pharma with the financial backing and resources it enables them to have.
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Thousands is not a lot when compared to the millions and millions of men that take it all over the world. And their "success" can be attributed to a lot of things. That's why we need controlled, peer reviewed studies. Everything else is not valid as proof and is a suspicion at best. And no.. people don't know their bodies best. People misdiagnose themselves all the time.
Hi, do you take finasteride?
No I have to disagree, if the only changes people have made in their lives is their hairloss regimen, and they suddenly got undeniable regrowth of hair after years of nothing working, then it's obviously their new hairloss regimen (created based on anecdotal evidence ) that has resulted in success. You can try deny and downplay it all you want but you just dislike the fact that people have had far better results from anectodal evidence regarding alternative hairloss treatments compared to Finasteride which has studies and hasn't produced such good results. Sure peer review studies are nice but most often the people who come up with these great personalized hairloss regimens based on anecdotal evidence, don't have the time or money to do peer review studies.
Also, there's lots of doctors and even specialists who misdiagnose people and it's often people listening to their gut which saves them. There's been so many times when blood tests results come out perfect but people still have a problem with certain things. So I do strongly believe people know themselves better. Also I'm sure you've heard of the phrase: "Get a second opinion, or even a third opinion" (when it comes do doctors or specialists diagnosing and treatment). Some people end up going to 6 doctors and only on the 7th do they find the right doctor who finds the problem/diagnosis correctly.
Are you seriously telling me, because I loosely used the word "thousands", that you're gonna base your whole argument on thinking that only thousands get side effects on Finasteride??? Of course theres tens of millions of people who get Side effects on Finasteride.
According to Wikipedia there's 9 million prescriptions in 2017. Probably even 10 million by now.
According to www.drugs.com, about 10% of Finasteride users get side effects (that's before the law suit was won against Merck for downplaying the amount of Finasteride users who experienced side effects).
But let's just work with 10% for calculation purposes.
10% of 10 million people is 1 MILLION people who have side effects on Finasteride. I actually don't even care whether the people who get side effects on Finasteride are a Majority or Minority.
For ONE MILLION people in the USA alone to get side effects on Finasteride is a damn big number!
I genuinely can't believe you essentially said that ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED *law suits* for only ONE drug is a small amount ?????????!! Remember, even if it is a small % of lawsuits, it doesn't mean it's a small number. 1100 is far too many.
Even 5 law suits for one product or drug is a lot. 10 is something to be concerned about. 100 is something definitely wrong. And 1000 is something undeniably wrong.
And btw, this is only 1100 from America. And I don't know for how many years that number hasn't been updated, it's surely much more than that by now.
*Furthermore, 1100 is not the only number of people who had side effects, it's only the number of people who had the time and the financial and legal means to open a LAW SUIT. The majority of Finasteride users who experience side effects don't have the finances or time to open such lawsuits which are also time consuming. 1100 Law suits are also not the only amount that were filed against Merck, but are the amount that were WON against Merck. There's probably tens of thousands more that have been filed in America alone and many of which have not been dealt with as yet. *.
I mean a law suit is a lot of effort and hassle, I'd say easily more realistically 99.9% of people who have issues with a drug wouldn't take the effort to resort to going through a whole law suit. Maybe at best a small percentage will maybe post their negative experiences online or on hair loss forums. So imagine how many other people would actually be experiencing side effects from Finasteride.
Assuming 99.9% of people don't file law suits and don't have the time and effort to follow through with them.
Then only 0.1% files lawsuits, which sounds more realistic.
If 0.1% = 1100 law suits:
And 0.1% x 1000 = 100% of Finasteride users experiencing side effects.
Then, 1100 x 1000 = 1.1 MILLION Finasteride users (Approximately) in Total in America alone have side effects on Finasteride.
Which is a damn lot of people and this figure more or less matches the figure I mentioned in the beginning of the message (Whereby I said with 10 Million Finasteride prescriptions in USA, and with 10% experiencing side effects = 1 Million Finasteride users experiencing Side Effects)
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Side effects are normal with any medication, it’s the irreversible ones you have to be careful of. And that’s not anywhere close to 10% of finasteride users.
Did you have some bad experience with finasteride or something? You seem super against it
Have you got any experience with Finasteride? I'm thinking about taking it just so I can get on with my life and not have to worry about hairloss anymore lol
I wouldn't only say that the irreversible side effects are the only ones to be careful about because they are some side effects that are reversible (for some people) but they are really problematic and even though they can be reversed (for some people) they can take a really long time to go away, which can feel like a lifetime for some.
I did have bad experiences with Finasteride, but that's not the only reason, there's been a lot of information covered up and Finasteride has had a long head start to look all pretty on the internet, but its really not the case as more people have gained accessibility to the internet relatively recently to report their negative reviews and a lot of people have taken action against Finasteride. I'm more about breaking the stereotypes around Finasteride. Talking about the things people like to keep a secret, I often type things that are not mainstream thinking so I'm not looking for popularity, but to educate people so that they are more aware and can make better informed decisions. I don't like people downplaying the negative side of Finasteride because even though it's a small percentage, it's not a small number, for example 5% of 100 million users of Finasteride is 5 million people with Finasteride side effects and that's a lot. Hence I believe even the minority should be allowed a voice too. Because these are peoples LIVES being messed up. By a drug that in my opinion should never have gotten FDA clearance in the first place.
And yes all medications have side effects, but not many of these medications are as widely used as Finasteride and not many of these that are as widely used as Finasteride are in the league of side effects as Finasteride.
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I'm so confused man, finasteride already has a pretty bad rep on the internet from what I've seen
Someone once asked me, "if Finasteride is so bad, why have we only been hearing stuff recently about Finasteride and not before? And why are there so few negative reports or law suits in comparison to such a long time that Propecia has been around (22 years) "
To which I replied:
"Propecia only became FDA approved in 1998, only a few people were using Finasteride back then, like any company/product only over many many many years did more people start using it as marketing increased. Millions weren't using Propecia/Finasteride for hair loss until probably at least 10 years after its release. And it's only when many people used Finasteride and after many years of using the drug were people eligible to report on it, you can't just report after 3 months of use.
Furthermore, it takes a while for law suits to go through.
Can't deny law suits. That's as cold hard facts as you'd ever get.
Also the internet and social media, etc wasn't popular at all back in 1998. In fact most people didn't even have cell phones compatible with the internet back then, most people were using Desktop Computers, not even laptops. Most people didn't even use Google back then. Google was literally only founded in 1998 as well. So most people only started using Google just before 2010. Most people could only afford smart phones with the internet or laptops around 2006 - 2013.
Also, most people took many many years to become proficient with the internet, probably only well after 2010. So of course you wouldn't have heard about it on the internet because the internet wasn't even properly established back then. It takes several years for Google to become as big as it is now in terms of information and users.
Furthermore, hairloss forums on the internet weren't even around in the early 2000's. People only started creating these hair loss forums after 2010.
Also, you need to remember that the only people who could easily afford the internet, laptop, smartphones etc were the older people who were working for many years. These older people also are very slow with technology so it takes them even more years to learn how to use the internet, hairloss forums, etc.
Back then people didn't know they could get help online or that they were online forums for Hairloss out there that could connect them with loads of people also experiencing side effects, so that they can realize something is definitely a problem and so they can approach this problem legally and also that they can fight against what was initially claimed to be factual but is clearly not.
The timeline I've stated makes perfect sense as to why most reports against Finasteride only start popping up around 2013 and it has grown exponentially the amount of negative reports against Finasteride.
People are becoming more aware of the problems of the past. All these things take several years.
Furthermore, more opposition studies against Finasteride needed to be conducted these took several years as well and only happened well after Finasteride was FDA approved for Hairloss. "
To which I replied:
"Propecia only became FDA approved in 1998, only a few people were using Finasteride back then, like any company/product only over many many many years did more people start using it as marketing increased. Millions weren't using Propecia/Finasteride for hair loss until probably at least 10 years after its release. And it's only when many people used Finasteride and after many years of using the drug were people eligible to report on it, you can't just report after 3 months of use.
Furthermore, it takes a while for law suits to go through.
Can't deny law suits. That's as cold hard facts as you'd ever get.
Also the internet and social media, etc wasn't popular at all back in 1998. In fact most people didn't even have cell phones compatible with the internet back then, most people were using Desktop Computers, not even laptops. Most people didn't even use Google back then. Google was literally only founded in 1998 as well. So most people only started using Google just before 2010. Most people could only afford smart phones with the internet or laptops around 2006 - 2013.
Also, most people took many many years to become proficient with the internet, probably only well after 2010. So of course you wouldn't have heard about it on the internet because the internet wasn't even properly established back then. It takes several years for Google to become as big as it is now in terms of information and users.
Furthermore, hairloss forums on the internet weren't even around in the early 2000's. People only started creating these hair loss forums after 2010.
Also, you need to remember that the only people who could easily afford the internet, laptop, smartphones etc were the older people who were working for many years. These older people also are very slow with technology so it takes them even more years to learn how to use the internet, hairloss forums, etc.
Back then people didn't know they could get help online or that they were online forums for Hairloss out there that could connect them with loads of people also experiencing side effects, so that they can realize something is definitely a problem and so they can approach this problem legally and also that they can fight against what was initially claimed to be factual but is clearly not.
The timeline I've stated makes perfect sense as to why most reports against Finasteride only start popping up around 2013 and it has grown exponentially the amount of negative reports against Finasteride.
People are becoming more aware of the problems of the past. All these things take several years.
Furthermore, more opposition studies against Finasteride needed to be conducted these took several years as well and only happened well after Finasteride was FDA approved for Hairloss. "
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I do. You can check my biggest thread on my page and see my story and success for yourself.
"Assuming", "imagine", "let's say" and so on.. I can not have a conversation with someone that bases their entire argument on parameters that cannot be judged objectively. Also I would like to have the sources for every single claim you made.
Btw.
U.S. court let Merck hide secrets about popular drug's risks
Lawsuits claim baldness drug Propecia causes sex problems, depression. The judge sealed evidence – viewed by Reuters – suggesting the maker downplayed risks. A widow wants the truth out.
Post-Finasteride Syndrome: An Induced Delusional Disorder with the Potential of a Mass Psychogenic Illness?
Abstract. Post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) has been claimed to occur in men who have taken oral finasteride to treat either hair loss or benign prostatic hyperplasia, independent of age, dosage, or indication. By definition, the condition is characterized by sexual dysfunction, somatic symptoms...
www.karger.com
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"Assuming", "imagine", "let's say" and so on.. I can not have a conversation with someone that bases their entire argument on parameters that cannot be judged objectively. Also I would like to have the sources for every single claim you made.
Btw.
If that is your source. Where is it stated that anything was won against Merck? Let alone 1100 cases. A Settlement is something different than winning the case. In that whole article there is not one proof, just claims and guesses without verification. And no the numbers have not risen much higher. In fact there were only 10 cases left by April 2019. In addition most of these law suits had claims like "because his libido shrunk, our marriage failed. It must be propecia." Most of these lawsuits were filed because Merck had not written all the possible side effects on the US version of their medication until 2012, not that it causes side effects in more men than the studies found out.U.S. court let Merck hide secrets about popular drug's risks
Lawsuits claim baldness drug Propecia causes sex problems, depression. The judge sealed evidence – viewed by Reuters – suggesting the maker downplayed risks. A widow wants the truth out.www.reuters.com
Here you have some facts that are not published by Merck.Post-Finasteride Syndrome: An Induced Delusional Disorder with the Potential of a Mass Psychogenic Illness?
Abstract. Post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) has been claimed to occur in men who have taken oral finasteride to treat either hair loss or benign prostatic hyperplasia, independent of age, dosage, or indication. By definition, the condition is characterized by sexual dysfunction, somatic symptoms...
U.S. court let Merck hide secrets about popular drug's risks
Lawsuits claim baldness drug Propecia causes sex problems, depression. The judge sealed evidence – viewed by Reuters – suggesting the maker downplayed risks. A widow wants the truth out.
"More than 1,100 Propecia-related lawsuits filed across the U.S. against Merck were consolidated before Judge Cogan in so-called multidistrict litigation (MDL). Merck agreed to settle most of them last year for $4.3 million, to be divided among the plaintiffs. Prior to the settlement, plaintiffs’ lawyers cited internal company communications to allege that in revisions to the drug’s original label, Merck understated the number of men who experienced sexual symptoms in clinical trials, and how long those symptoms lasted. Merck settled before responding to the allegation in court."
Reuters asks judge to release secret Propecia documents
Reuters asked a U.S. judge on Thursday to unseal documents filed in court regarding potential risks associated with Propecia, Merck & Co's popular baldness drug.
www.reuters.com
If you want to get into technicalities regarding the definition of a settlement, if Merk or Propecia actually won, they wouldn't have made a settlement and paid people out even $1. But here they are paying $4.3 MILLION dollars. You can say it's technically not a "win" but for most, I see it as a loss for Propecia.
Furthermore, Merck intentionally leaving out the other side effects on Finasteride was not a small thing as forgetting. They knew well what these side effects were bu left them out because they knew it would negatively affect sales. These are major major major problems because you can't just get away with that without paying people to keep quiet, paying scientists and FDA to keep quiet and also secretly funding "independent" studies because there's so many studies that contradict these "independent studies" that portray Finasteride in a less harmful light.
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The sealed document also cites a 2016 sworn deposition in which a plaintiffs’ lawyer asked former Merck marketing vice president Paul Howes: “So you knew internally that if these sexual adverse events were prolonged or lengthened or never went away, that that would be something that would impact sales in a negative way. Right?”
“Yes,” Howes said.
Howes, who held that marketing job from 1998 until 2001, declined to comment for this article.
SALES DOWNER: In a 2016 deposition Reuters reviewed, former Merck marketing executive Paul Howes testified about the business risk posed by Propecia’s possible side effects."
No you're wrong again, there's actually a plethora of studies that show Finasteride is actually way worse, I'll cite you more stuff:
"The rate of sexual dysfunction was “significantly higher” in men who took finasteride compared to men who took the placebo, according to the study’s authors.
Impotence occurred in *15.8 percent* of finasteride users while 6.3 percent of placebo users reported the issue. The study’s authors published the results in the November 1996 issue of Canadian Medical Association Journal.
Also in 1996, a much larger observational cohort study published in British Journal of Urology used prescription-event monitoring to gather information on 14,772 patients. ED was the *most frequently reported side effect with finasteride*. It was also the most common reason for stopping the medication.
*Persistent Erectile Dysfunction* :
In March 2017, a Northwestern Medicine study found that some men who took finasteride suffered persistent erectile dysfunction in which they were not able to have normal erections for months or years after stopping the medication.
Out of 11,909 men who took finasteride or dutasteride, 1.4 percent developed persistent erectile dysfunction that continued for an average of about 1,350 days after stopping treatment, according to the study. "Young men who had more than 205 days of exposure to the drug had nearly five times higher risk of persistent erectile dysfunction than men with shorter exposure.*
Researchers published their findings in the open access journal PeerJ. "
" *Loss of Libido* :
Another side effect reported with Propecia use is a reduced interest in sex. In fact, *loss of libido was the most common sexual side effect reported in a 2011 study of finasteride users* published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine.
Researchers from the George Washington University School of Medicine interviewed 71 patients who experienced sexual side effects after using finasteride. The researchers found that *94 percent of men experienced a decline in libido.*
“Such significant and undesirable complications in relation to sexual function produce a well-documented negative impact on quality of life.”
Source: August 2003 review in International Journal of Impotence Research"
"*Problems Continue After Drug Use Stops* :
Following the early drug trials, both Merck and the FDA assured men that the sexual complications would resolve once they stopped taking the drug, but later evidence would prove the contrary.
"*The preapproval trials were not especially reliable, as the information was drawn from a relatively small patient group treated for only six months to one year, and follow-up procedures were unclear.*
*More recent investigations show the drug’s sexual side effects can persist even after a man stops taking the drug. In some cases, the complications are irreversible."*
" The man stopped taking the drug about a month later, and while some side effects disappeared, his sexual function never returned to normal. In a follow-up 11 years later, he still suffered from erectile dysfunction and loss of libido. The researchers published their study in the Journal of Sexual Medicine.
In 2011, George Washington University urologist Michael S. Irwig and his colleague Swapna Kolukula published their assessment of 71 finasteride patients who reported long-term sexual side effects that persisted after discontinuation of the drug.
The selected group of patients (young men between the ages of 21 and 46) took a survey that revealed a wide range of sexual side effects that arose after Propecia use, including problems with erectile function, arousal, sexual desire, orgasm and orgasm satisfaction.
The men had taken the drug for an average of 28 months. The sexual side effects continued for an average of 40 months after the men stopped taking the drug.
Upon following up with 54 of these patients one year later, Irwig discovered that *96 percent of the men were still suffering from the sexual dysfunctions* they initially reported. None of the men reported sexual, psychiatric or medical complaints before taking finasteride.
“The argument that the benefits of these drugs outweigh the risks is slowly eroding in the face of new emerging scientific evidence from preclinical and clinical studies.”
June 2014 study in Korean Journal of Urology
A 2014 review in Korean Journal of Urology found at least four previous studies that reported “persistent or irreversible” sexual side effects. The authors said the studies reported “negative emotional toll and reduced quality of life” for the men affected.
“The argument that the benefits of these drugs outweigh the risks is slowly eroding in the face of new emerging scientific evidence from preclinical and clinical studies,” the authors wrote.
Men who suffered long-term sexual dysfunction after taking Propecia have filed lawsuits against Merck that accuse the company of failing to warn users of the risk.
*Sexual Dysfunction and Suicidal Thoughts* :
Researchers have also found an increased risk of depressive symptoms and suicidal thoughts among men who suffered sexual side effects of Propecia. Irwig reported the connection in a 2012 study in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry.
Irwig looked at 61 former finasteride users who experienced sexual dysfunction for three months or longer after they quit the medication. He compared them to a control group of 29 men who had male pattern hair loss but who had never used the drug.
He found that *44 percent of the former Propecia patients experienced suicidal thoughts* compared to just 3 percent of men who never used the medication.
*The rate of depressive symptoms was 75 percent in the men who had used finasteride* and 10 percent in the control group. Sixty-four percent of the former finasteride users suffered moderate or severe depressive symptoms. None of the men in the control group experienced the same issues."
" FDA Warns of Additional Problems and Risks
When evidence conflicted with Merck’s original assertion that the sexual side effects of Propecia would stop once treatment ends, the FDA required the manufacturer to revise the drug’s safety label accordingly.
In 2011, the FDA called for a warning that erectile dysfunction may continue after the drug is no longer being used.
The following year, the agency published results from an investigation into the adverse effects of finasteride. Using data collected from 1998 to 2011, the agency identified persistent sexual dysfunction of at least three months in 14 percent of the 421 evaluated cases.
After the April 2012 investigation, the FDA required Merck to change Propecia’s label to include reports of libido, ejaculation and orgasm disorders that continued even after men stopped taking the drug. The label says 1 percent or more of men who used the drug experienced one or more of these three side effects.
The FDA also ordered Merck to add information about reports of male infertility and poor semen quality. The label description included information that the fertility and semen issues improved or returned to normal after men quit taking the drug."
Propecia Side Effects | Erectile Dysfunction & Decreased Libido
The hair-growth drug Propecia is linked to erectile dysfunction, ejaculation disorder & decreased libido. In some cases, the side effects may be permanent.
www.drugwatch.com
Propecia Lawsuits - Sexual Dysfunction Claims & Litigation History
Men who suffered from sexual dysfunction or other side effects after taking Propecia have sued the drug’s maker, Merck & Co.
www.drugwatch.com
"Drugwatch.com writers follow rigorous sourcing guidelines and cite only trustworthy sources of information, including peer-reviewed journals, court records, academic organizations, highly regarded nonprofit organizations, government reports and interviews with qualified experts. Review our editorial policy to learn more about our process for producing accurate, current and balanced content."
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3. Melcangi, R.C. & et al. (2013, July 24). Neuroactive Steroid Levels are Modified in Cerebrospinal Fluid and Plasma of Post-Finasteride Patients Showing Persistent Sexual Side Effects and Anxious/Depressive Symptomatology. Retrieved from https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jsm.12269
4. Irwig, M.S. (2012, July 12). Persistent Sexual Side Effects of Finasteride: Could They Be Permanent? Retrieved from https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02846.x
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That is literally 1/100th of what Merck earn annually from Propecia. I don't know how you can see it as a loss lol
I think I am going to try finasteride, because it seems like the best and most clinically tested treatment out there. Especially if you've tried it, and you're young, I may as well use it lol
