Make brotzu's lotion (not yet GB!)

jc3303

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For your interest, I emailed him asking about if he solved the stability issue of the lotion (fidia said they're were working on that. The lotion can only be kept at low temperature for now). He never replied to me on that.

There is no stability issue, it was Kelopesia that had the problem with stability
 

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There is no stability issue, it was Kelopesia that had the problem with stability
You're right, I checked the news again. I got it wrong. :)

The guy must have been confused when he saw my email.
 

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So if you're in the first GB isn't your address info sent with the PayPal payment? How is he tracking who paid? If he's verifying with emails then why not just CC all the PayPal people asking for their addresses? How is he in good conscience asking for money for a second group buy when he has people from the first who he hadn't even contacted for their address? I would wait to hear if first gb people get their shipment. What's one more week?
 

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On another note. Seems like a lot of people aren't clear about this product. I read all the interviews from Dr Btotzu. Short and simple he's basically calling this a cure(if your young). If you're older it should to date, grow back at the minimum 5 years over the course of 2 years. The 2 main ingredients are Equol and DGLA. The Equol blocks the synthesis of DHT while the DGLA increase microcirculation and repairs damaged capillaries. So it's like minoxidil and finasteride in one but more effective. He was even asked if it effects hair cycle like minoxidil and if one should expect shedding, he said absolutely not, it acts very quickly to stop the damage and repair the cells. You would use it everyday until you get the desired results and then just twice a week for maintenance. He said they have photos but the current clinical trials will provide much better professional photos and documentation of the results.
My favourite quote from the interview:

8) What developments will have in the short term treatment of alopecia?
If the alopecia will be treated at their beginning and then kept under control with possible repeated applications we can not have more bald, with great pleasure of barbers and hairdressers.
 
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On another note. Seems like a lot of people aren't clear about this product. I read all the interviews from Dr Btotzu. Short and simple he's basically calling this a cure(if your young). If you're older it should to date, grow back at the minimum 5 years over the course of 2 years. The 2 main ingredients are Equol and DGLA. The Equol blocks the synthesis of DHT while the DGLA increase microcirculation and repairs damaged capillaries. So it's like minoxidil and finasteride in one but more effective. He was even asked if it effects hair cycle like minoxidil and if one should expect shedding, he said absolutely not, it acts very quickly to stop the damage and repair the cells. You would use it everyday until you get the desired results and then just twice a week for maintenance. He said they have photos but the current clinical trials will provide much better professional photos and documentation of the results.
My favourite quote from the interview:

8) What developments will have in the short term treatment of alopecia?
If the alopecia will be treated at their beginning and then kept under control with possible repeated applications we can not have more bald, with great pleasure of barbers and hairdressers.

God.. He has photos? I didn't know that.. He wants to be professional and make sure his product doesn't get known as scam with bad before and after photos (Bad quality, different light, other angle... We all know those pictures.) This is a good and logical reason.

Nice post over all! Thanks for sharing your read!

I am even more hyped now.. Ahhh!
 

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I'm sorry guys but i dont have time to read all the thread, can someone please sum it up for me? Is it a lotion? Is there any website where we can order?

Thank you.
 

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Are we getting this or not. If yes then how or was the whole GB thing was a joke ?
 

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I hadn't noticed there was a separate thread discussing the group buy of the lotion so I don't know if this is considered a double post or something since I also posted this on the other dr. Brotzu thread. I have no idea if anyone has received the lotion for the first group buy yet but,

regarding the 2nd group buy of the dr. Brotzu lotion:

I've exchanged over 50 emails with Emanuele because it's hard to communicate with him considering his English isn't the best. I'll post the relevant info here for anyone who is interested in participating now that I finally understand what he was trying to tell me.


Whoever would like to participate in the 2nd group buy for the lotion can send 90 euros (shipping included, it's 80 euros if you live in Italy btw) through Paypal to the following email address: tagliariniemanuele@gmail.com (you can confirm this is his email by checking his blog at http://rivoluzionecapelli.blogspot.gr/ )

****Make sure to select the option of sending money to Friends and Family when you are sending the money otherwise Paypal may lock his account like they did in the first Group buy for legal reasons (receipts etc). It took 2 weeks and a lot of communication to unlock it. When you send money to Friends and Family through Paypal you also pay a small fee when funding the payment through a credit/debit card so this will help you know you are sending the money the correct way (funding with money already on your paypal wallet or bank account is free to the best of my knowledge). In the Note section of the payment it may be wise to also mention that the money is a donation just to make sure. After he places the order for the lotion, we will communicate with him through email (tagliariniemanuele@gmail.com) about the Addresses to send the lotions.
 

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So if you're in the first GB isn't your address info sent with the PayPal payment? How is he tracking who paid? If he's verifying with emails then why not just CC all the PayPal people asking for their addresses? How is he in good conscience asking for money for a second group buy when he has people from the first who he hadn't even contacted for their address? I would wait to hear if first gb people get their shipment. What's one more week?

If you read his blog he told all the people that sent him the money to email him the shipping address again, to be sure. All of his updates are on the blogs, you guys are expecting him to email you individually. Remember, this gp, was originally for Italians.
 

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I'm a female in Philadelphia, U.S. I'd love to participate in the second group buy.
 

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I e-mailed him and asked, "I am in the second group buy. I am in the United States. If I send you the money now, when will I receive the lotion?"

and he replied, "it's impossible to say because I need all people to send me the Money"...

I am sorry, but this is sloppy and hard to follow. What if every one doesn't send him the money? Will he refund those that have?

I have read through this entire thing, as well as his blog. I appreciate that he's very responsive, but there are WAY better way to organize things. Has ANYONE from the first GB even received their product yet?
 

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I e-mailed him and asked, "I am in the second group buy. I am in the United States. If I send you the money now, when will I receive the lotion?"

and he replied, "it's impossible to say because I need all people to send me the Money"...

I am sorry, but this is sloppy and hard to follow. What if every one doesn't send him the money? Will he refund those that have?

I have read through this entire thing, as well as his blog. I appreciate that he's very responsive, but there are WAY better way to organize things. Has ANYONE from the first GB even received their product yet?

this is not his fault, he told the users for the second GB to send him the money since he reach a certain number of the users where he can make the lotion, i think the minimum was 90 users.

but apparently some italian users want to wait until receive the first GB and analyse it through a laboratory to see if the this lotion is legit. and some of the italian users come to this forum and precisely in his thread a days ago and ask people to not pay until they analyse the lotion. and apparently he convince some of the users of this forum.

actually the italian guy is waiting until all users that were involved to the second GB to send him the money to start. and even in his last post in his blog he says : SECOND GROUP WHERE ARE YOU?

so this not his fault, but the fault of the people involved in the second GB which they didn't send him the money yet.

in my case i sent him his money last saturday.
 

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in my case i sent him his money last saturday.

How the hell do I even send him money? I can't find any links to paypal on his page. I will send it right away.
 

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I am sorry, but this is sloppy and hard to follow. What if every one doesn't send him the money? Will he refund those that have?

He can't buy material worth of 90 lotions when only 20 people pay him, that just a simple fact. This entire thing can be made if only enough people cooperate. The people in the 2nd buy aren't putting their money where their mouth is. People should do this thing with the thought that it can very well be a scam, and just accept the responsability that they might waste the money. It's like gambling, no one forces you to do it, and if you lose you can't do anything in the end.
I can list 5 reasons why this isn't a scam and 5 reasons why this is a scam, none of them actually matter for the final result. People can scam you in the most beautiful way if they want to
 
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It contains the answers to all your questions.
Can i know what's his blog?

I'm a female in Philadelphia, U.S. I'd love to participate in the second group buy.

How the hell do I even send him money? I can't find any links to paypal on his page. I will send it right away.

Does nobody even read the previous posts on this thread. I posted all the relevant information a few posts above. #271
 

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How the hell do I even send him money? I can't find any links to paypal on his page. I will send it right away.

you send him 90 euros to his paypal using his email tagliariniemanuele@gmail.com
you go to paypal select send money to family and friend and put his email and the amount of 90 euros, that's it.
last time he made a paypal invoice and his paypal account was blocked for 2 weeks and they ask him some paper to prove that he is a seller. so now he ask us to send via send money to family and friend.

he wrote that in the last 2 posts.
 

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He can't buy material worth of 90 lotions when only 20 people pay him, that just a simple fact. This entire thing can be made if only enough people cooperate. The people in the 2nd buy aren't putting their money where their mouth is. People should do this thing with the thought that it can very well be a scam, and just accept the responsability that they might waste the money. It's like gambling, no one forces you to do it, and if you lose you can't do anything in the end.
I can list 5 reasons why this isn't a scam and 5 reasons why this is a scam, none of them actually matter for the final result. People can scam you in the most beautiful way if they want to

He hasn't even fulfilled the first group buy and you are so anxious to send him 90 euros? Would you go to a casino that you know hasn't paid past players? It's not a giant some of money sure but not pocket change either. I can think of some nice things I can buy with 90 euros.
 
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