look what I found

[andrei_eremenko]

Hey...look what I found...in an article I've found that a good diet and a good care for vitamins is essential for a long life of your hair...I've found also if you're taking care about your hair loss at 20's...is great you can keep your head full of hair...with big chances...because of medicine of nowadays...in that article is also written that the baldness is also determinated by androgens ...and just beacause they are much more in some bodies...not because your hair have something that is sensible at androgens...that's why propecia works so better ...

But...the most important...it says that they are 2 new methods of treatment...one is the mezotherapy ...that means some substances like minoxidil and finsa and others are injected in your scalp...they say that have good results...and another method...is a natural bioregrowth using raising hormones and endogenous stem cells...also..I'll talk with this doctor the next week...he is one of the best...I can still save a lot of hairs I think...

 

[dougfunny]

wow if it's in a magazine that you apparently cannot even site it cannot possibly be complete and utter bullshit!

 

[andrei_eremenko]

no...no...in fact is written in romanian...if you know the language i'll be happy to share the link...I just wanted to sum up and translate...he is the best dermatologist in our country...he is member of american academy of dermatology...and even americans wanted a few years ago to make him stay in usa...he is on of the best ...this is the link...you can use google translate

http://sanatate.jurnalul.ro/stire-derma ... 28959.html

 

[s.a.f]

Err big deal you do realise this site is about m.p.b not 'healthy hair'.

This is like posting an article on the importance of calcium for bone growth on a site for dwarfism.

 

[andrei_eremenko]

ok...you can get it anyway u want...but it says that nowadays...there are miracle drugs that can make a kid to not follow his balding dad...and to remain with head full of hair...as you have noticed already...that are people with full heads of hair after over 10 years of usage of finasteride...I personally know one person...who's taking this since 20 he is 31 now...healthy like never was before...

 

[dougfunny]

ok...you can get it anyway u want...but it says that nowadays...there are miracle drugs that can make a kid to not follow his balding dad...and to remain with head full of hair...as you have noticed already...that are people with full heads of hair after over 10 years of usage of finasteride...I personally know one person...who's taking this since 20 he is 31 now...healthy like never was before...

well now that is true but the part about a good diet and vitamins in nonsense. unless you are seriously malnourished it is not going to matter and if you are hair loss is going to be the least of your problems and symptoms.

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

well now that is true but the part about a good diet and vitamins in nonsense. unless you are seriously malnourished it is not going to matter and if you are hair loss is going to be the least of your problems and symptoms.

70% of Americans are deficient in vitamin D. Malnourishment never happens?

 

[toocoolforhair]

Everyday I take the following tablets:

Multivitamin (with probiotic)
Omega 3
Garlic
Vitamin C

And I drink plenty of water. My hair loss has not stopped.

 

[andrei_eremenko]

and it will never stop...with that...you have to take something internal...

 

[s.a.f]

Everyday I take the following tablets:

Multivitamin (with probiotic)
Omega 3
Garlic
Vitamin C

And I drink plenty of water. My hair loss has not stopped.

Exactly what did you expect ???!! M.p.b is'nt a nutritional or health issue.

 

[Hoppi]

I think it depends on the person, getting healthy will probably help some more than others. It depends how much of your hair loss was caused by things like hormonal imbalance and inflammation, and how much was caused by simply very sensitive hair follicles.

There are theories that other deficiencies that are less obvious can contribute to or trigger male pattern baldness, but I don't know so much about that yet.

 

[s.a.f]

No we do know! Because of the millions of perfectly healthy people including top athletes out there who are also suffering from m.p.b. At the same time as the millions of unhealthy sick and malnurished people who are'nt.

 

[Hoppi]

heh, well of course I mean, it's like the famous balding monkeys argument! lol

but there are different triggers. If I walked up to some random dude and injected DHT into him every day, he would probably start losing hair. Most guys do have the genetics for it, the follicles just aren't quite as sensitive. If I injected him with a whole bunch of testosterone it would probably happen too, weightlifters and stuff always talk about losing more hair after boosting their T really high. Tons of things trigger it man. Like with me and stress, that goes nuts on your hormones, and apparently increases inflammation too.

Just because for some people it's down to very, very sensitive follicles, it doesn't mean that we're all the same.

There's a guy on another forum who reversed his male pattern baldness with curcumin, resveratrol, vitamins C, D and E, MSM and... well that's largely it, he also uses magnesium. Would that work for me? Maybe, but quite possibly not (he actually says he has tried it on others with limited success, despite the fact he experienced good regrowth). There are countless examples of people curing or greatly reducing their male pattern baldness by a variety of odd regimens and changes that don't work for others but work for them. We are just not all the same.

 

[hairandthere]

I think this is actually surprising that wherever you read this article, it sounds accurate. It claims:
1. nutrition contributes to healthy hair
2. that medicines nowadays make it much more possible for someone to stop hairloss at an early age.
3. that combo treatments are the most effective (sound familiar, big 3)

Even the injections are something I haven't really seen discussed on this website much. It is relatively new and offered by respected hair transplant doctors like Dr. Feller. It is called PRP treatment. Google it.

 

[dougfunny]

well now that is true but the part about a good diet and vitamins in nonsense. unless you are seriously malnourished it is not going to matter and if you are hair loss is going to be the least of your problems and symptoms.

70% of Americans are deficient in vitamin D. Malnourishment never happens?

well vitamin d is technically a hormone and not really related to diet. good point none the less though i doubt people are losing much hair because of vitamin d deficiency as it primarily effects the bones.

interesting that on the long list of unproven supplements everyone on this forum seems to be taken i rarely see vitamin d.

basically there are two supplements that it makes sense for people to take: fish oil and vitamin d. however if you get a lot of sun and eat fish neither would be necessary. and if you do not have a history of heart disease fish oil is probably not necessary although it certainly seems that it cannot hurt.

though there have been studies in the paper recently that many fish oil supplements contain the toxin pcb. so it could do more harm than good if the oil you are taking is contaminated.

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

Occasional consumption of fish is not always sufficient for omega 3s. Part of the problem is that it comes down to a balancing act between omega 6s and omega 3s. With the super heavy grain consumption that the western diet relies on we are never ever devoid of omega 6 intake. If your intake of omega 6s severely outweighs you omega 3 intake your body will end up using more of the omega 6s in place of the 3s when building up new lipids. Unfortunately this problem is compounded even more by the fact that all of the crap meat we get in this country undergoes the same sort of dietary 6/3 imbalances and so their bodies end up utilizing too many 6s as well which means when we eat the meat we get even more imbalanced 6/3 levels.

Consuming flaxseed oil can bypass the problems with contaminants in fish oil but you will need to consume more of it because your body needs to turn the oils in flaxseed into the oils that would be found in fish oil and it's not a 1:1 conversion.

I picked up a container of Hemp Seed oil in the health store the other day to look at the nutritional profile of this "healthy way to get essential oils!" only to notice an overabundance of omega 6s in it. Kinda misses the point unfortunately.

 

[Apache]

basically there are two supplements that it makes sense for people to take: fish oil and vitamin d. however if you get a lot of sun and eat fish neither would be necessary. and if you do not have a history of heart disease fish oil is probably not necessary although it certainly seems that it cannot hurt.quote]


This is inaccurate. I work outside and get plenty of sun. My vitamin d level was so low that it didn't even show up on my blood panel. Vitamin d deficiency is very widespread.

As for fish oil, some people don't digest fats very well, thus eating fish doesn't provide the benefit that concentrated fish oil does.

 

[dougfunny]

basically there are two supplements that it makes sense for people to take: fish oil and vitamin d. however if you get a lot of sun and eat fish neither would be necessary. and if you do not have a history of heart disease fish oil is probably not necessary although it certainly seems that it cannot hurt.

This is inaccurate. I work outside and get plenty of sun. My vitamin d level was so low that it didn't even show up on my blood panel. Vitamin d deficiency is very widespread.

As for fish oil, some people don't digest fats very well, thus eating fish doesn't provide the benefit that concentrated fish oil does.

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well it's not entirely inaccurate. lifeguards, for example, generally have really high vitamin d levels. if your whole body is exposed to the sun for long periods of time you are going to be fine. just working outdoors wearing protective clothing probably not so much.

 

[andrei_eremenko]

and yes...I've heard about that kind of treatment with injections...it contains finasteride minoxidil and some others medicines...it says that it have very good success rate because is acting right on the problem in the skin of the scalp...

 

[andrei_eremenko]

and yes...I've already seen PRP treatment on net...looks good...nobody tried?