Zimmy
....."L-arginine and L-lysine cancel each other out. No point in taking them both together.".....
It is not really as simple as 'they cancel each other out', they both compete for entrance through the blood brain barrier, this competition can be avoided by using, as Garthbrooks pointed out, Arginine Pyroglutamate instead of plain 'ol Arginine, as these two don't compete. The result of stacking the two is a synergistc one with results showing biologically active hormone response up to TEN times that of just Arginine.
I have tried for years to find cheap Arginine Pyroglutamate for sale anywhere in the UK with no luck, so I use L-Ortinine if I want to stack aminos. but I have seen it start to appear on the internet in the last couple of years, so I might try and get some as L-Orthinine is around twice the cost of L-Arginine.
redbone
I have always read and understood a ratio of 1:2 L-Orthinine/L-Arginine to be the generally excepted best option, say like 2.5g Orthinine to 5g Arginine, this ratio runs throughout work by Dr Ronald Katz, Pearson and Shaw.
It really is best to take your amino acids on an empty stomach as if not most of the amino acid can be destroyed on the way through by normal digestive process before it gets to the large/ small intestines where it is passed to the blood. So if you are getting results taking this stuff with your twinkys and coke, image the size of your 'man pencil' when you start using it correctly (the aminos that is, not your giant c***).
Garthbrooks
...."Also i read something contradictory to something i'm sure we all read. It said it is best to take the amino acids in the morning rather than night, because at night time is when our body naturally produces HGH, so it is not neccessary at night, and can make the pituitary gland dependant, and lazy. By taking it during the day we're not interferring with the natural production, and are producing HGH additionally during the day."....
Take your amino acids at night.....you boost your natural GH spurt which occurs at the start of the nights sleep. (make sure you take em' 45 minutes to an hour before sleep)
Take your amino acids in the morning or afternoon only if you are about to do some exercise to boost the natural exercise induced release of GH, (make sure you take em' 45 minutes to an hour before exercise)
...."can make the pituitary gland dependant, and lazy"....
This is true so like Lance Armstrong Cycle your amino acids. There are two reasons that you should cycle, that is, use them for a period of time and then go off them for a period of time. first, all hormones in the body work via a delicate, complex feedback mechinisms, with one hormone signaling another to turn on or off in response to the amount of hormone circulating in the body. By continually suppling the hormone from outside you can interrupt the natural feedback mechanism, there is an art and science to cycling, except for basic vitamin, mineral and anitoxidant supplements, cycling any substance is recomended. your body will adjust to most things and the response you are looking for will be attenuated and you don't want that.
Ty
(with the vast knowledge of God)