Just came back from jogging

[Guest]

And damn if there's one thing to make you feel good about yourself and forget about hairloss, it's jogging and exercising in general. I will add cross country skiing alongside with jogging and weight lifting in the winter, it's damn good exercise. I'm very motivated to get myself in the best shape ever.

 

[CCS]

I totally agree. I feel so high right now after my workout. I heard testosterone makes you happy. I get that spike after my workout. I did not used to get it though because I'd do so many reps that I'd come home shaking and hungry.

45 minutes is just a rule of thumb. For people who workout as intensely as I do, 15-20 minutes is probably where testosterone peaks.

 

[Aplunk1]

Hell yeah!

Right on, brother! I started jogging in February, and it has seriously changed my life. It really has relieved my depression, anxiety, and it has definitely helped my hairloss. I'm in excellent shape now!

I run a little too much, though-- almost 2 hours a day! It's a great high... better than swimming!

I highly suggest buying an iPOD or a music player to use when you're jogging, along with some good sunglasses, sports watch, good shoes (with support), etc..

 

[Guest]

Hell yeah!

Right on, brother! I started jogging in February, and it has seriously changed my life. It really has relieved my depression, anxiety, and it has definitely helped my hairloss. I'm in excellent shape now!

I run a little too much, though-- almost 2 hours a day! It's a great high... better than swimming!

I highly suggest buying an iPOD or a music player to use when you're jogging, along with some good sunglasses, sports watch, good shoes (with support), etc..

Yeah I got an mp3 player, always cranking out loud rock'n'roll while jogging. Don't think I need sunglasses though, it's usually dark and cold (except in the summer which lasts about 3 months here ) when I jog. Nice to hear that someone else gets the same feeling from exercising. And oh yeah, CCS what would be the optimum time for jogging? Atm I only jog about 30 mins but I feel like slowly getting in shape and can extend a little bit soon.

 

[Aplunk1]

Definitely take it slow, and take a few days off a week before you start to improve distance. It might take you a few months before you can go over an hour, so take your time, man. Get some MSM/Glucosamine if your joints start hurting.

 

[Guest]

Definitely take it slow, and take a few days off a week before you start to improve distance. It might take you a few months before you can go over an hour, so take your time, man. Get some MSM/Glucosamine if your joints start hurting.

Yeah well I did jog more about 2-3 years ago, I was in much better shape at that time. But yeah I know I will have to take it slow, too bad the winter's coming and soon it will be like -10 celsius here, makes breathing pretty hard when jogging.

 

[Guest]

I am not jogging but running. The difference is that running is much faster than jogging, so in the end I am only running for about 25 minutes. I started it to support my loss of weight in early 2004. Now i am mostly doing to stay in shape and fit. I can´t say it has helped me with my depressions or the thought about my ugliness. Rather the opposite, since I started to get in shape I have become much more obsessed with my looks, before I simply didn´t care...... :thumbsdown:

And yes, ipod is a must have, I usually listen to The Stooges, Rage against the machine or The Rolling Stones.

 

[CCS]

If you notice your speed slowing way down because you are worn out, just stop. But if it feels like a good fun workout, then it's good. You can run faster and shorter, or long and slow, but I suggest staying above 6 miles per hour. A lot of women run way slower than that though, so I guess it is safe.

 

[Guest]

If you notice your speed slowing way down because you are worn out, just stop. But if it feels like a good fun workout, then it's good. You can run faster and shorter, or long and slow, but I suggest staying above 6 miles per hour. A lot of women run way slower than that though, so I guess it is safe.

Well I really don't know about my speed, 'cause I have no one to compare it to. I guess I run a bit faster than your average jogger, but they're usually much older than me. Once I went jogging with a friend of mine (who's in ok shape and plays football in a club) and he ran much slower than me, man that was really JOGGING not running.

 

[Aplunk1]

Yeah, running definitely generates a better high, as opposed to jogging, which hardly does anything for me.

Like CCS said, at least 6 is good. If you run 6.5 your entire workout, then you're doing great! Also, I forgot to mention, the best thing you could possibly get yourself is a heartrate monitor. If you maintain 60% heartrate for 10 minutes, then maintain 40% for the rest of your workout, the fat will come off you like crazy!

Calculate your heart rate here: http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heart.asp

 

[CCS]

the more intense your workout, the more fat comes off you, at least with resistance bicycling. With running though, I heard that once you run above a certain speed, which was 8.5 MPH though that sounds low, your slow twitch muscles can't contract that fast and just let your intermediate muscles take over. Since only slow and intermediate muscles can burn fat, running too fast can reduce your fat burn. But in general with slower, heavy force cadio like on a stationary bike, the higher the intensity, the more fat you burn. But you burn less fat for your effort. So if you have lots of time and little will, do the easier stuff.

 

[Guest]

Ok yesterday I went jogging with a heartrate monitor... my heartrate was like 150-160 BPM all the time, is that good for burning fat? If I jog any slower I might aswell be walking so... granted my heartrate goes to 90 when I'm drinking water haha so I guess it's pretty high naturally.

 

[notself]

As a general rule, you should exercise at an intensity between 50% - 85% of your heart rate reserve.

Beginner / low fitness level 50% - 60%
Average fitness level -60% - 70%
High fitness level - 75% - 85%


If you have a heart rate monitor watch the Karvonen formula is most effective.

220 - Age = Maximum Heart Rate (I don't think this holds for the elderly or people with heart conditions...you might have to adjust)

Max Heart Rate - Rest. Heart Rate x Intensity + Rest. Heart Rate = Training Heart Rate

For ex. you are 25, right? SO, your minimum training heart rate should be:

220 - 5 = 195
195 - 90 (you have to get it this at rest, i am using you drinking water here) = 105
105 x .5 (min. intensity) + 90 = 142.5

You max. training should be:

105 x .6 + 90 = 150.

So for beginner intensity your heart rate zone should be between 142.5 - 150 beats per min.

For higher intensity workouts just play around with the numbers.

Hope this helps.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, thanks... but I felt like I was jogging really slowly but the heart rate was still 150-160... I'm not in that bad a shape, I jogged for like 30 mins but felt like could've gone on for another 15 mins. Anyway, Karvonen formula? That's a Finnish surname, Karvonen. Many surnames in Finland end with "nen", mine too.

 

[Aplunk1]

GHG,
that's a good heart rate to sustain. Notself didn't make understanding your heart rate easy. Did your physical education teacher ever go through it with you guys?

Anyway, just make sure that you're comfortable-- you're probably running too hard when you can't carry on a conversation, or have trouble keeping your breath.

 

[notself]

What do you mean you are not in bad shape? Do you mean you are not fat? How is your endurance/stamina? Even if you are within your BMI index and you are in shape, different from being fit, if you are not physically active enough you might have fat around your organs which does not show physically which can contribute to lethargy etc. This is one reason why slim people get heart disease and heart attacks.

I think your heart rate at rest might not be 90 and this will change the above values. You have to take your heart rate at rest and not while doing anything and then recalculate your range.

Yeah, it is named after Dr. Martti Karvonen from Helsinki.

Curious what brand of watch you are using. Polar?

 

[CCS]

Your ideal heart rate only depends on genetics and age, not how fit you are. The more in shape you are, the lower your heart rate will be at high intensities. Just pick an intensity which is a little challenging, but not uncomfortable. Does not have to feel challenging in the first 30 seconds though. Don't go till you are wiped out. Just try to slowly break old records.

Optimal heart rate is different for everyone. The max = 220-age is just an estimate. Like aplunk1 said, you should be able to talk a little, but not a lot. 90 is very high for a resting beat. You definitely need the cardio. I hope you don't have a heart attack soon. Some 20 year old olympic athletes have died during their performance, and not from roids either. Their arteries were clogged, I guess from genetics.

As long as you are not running too fast for your slow twitch muscle to keep up and continue engaging, you will burn more fat the higher your intensity is.

 

[Guest]

What do you mean you are not in bad shape? Do you mean you are not fat? How is your endurance/stamina? Even if you are within your BMI index and you are in shape, different from being fit, if you are not physically active enough you might have fat around your organs which does not show physically which can contribute to lethargy etc. This is one reason why slim people get heart disease and heart attacks.

I think your heart rate at rest might not be 90 and this will change the above values. You have to take your heart rate at rest and not while doing anything and then recalculate your range.

Yeah, it is named after Dr. Martti Karvonen from Helsinki.

Curious what brand of watch you are using. Polar?

I didn't say my resting heart rate is 90! It's around 60. But as soon as I do something (just about anything) it raises. I mean I'm not in bad shape compared to most people, I have always exercised some whether it's football, futsal, cycling or something else. I cycle 30 mins almost on a daily basis 'cause I don't own a car. I'm not using Polar watch, it's some cheap *** brand that my bro got as a gift or something.

 

[notself]

Sorry, I got the 90 from your above post. You can subsitute 60 for 90 andthen calculate the range. This is good for general assessment of the heart during workout. This method is used for people undergoing physiotherapy post heart surgery although the calculated maximun rate is underreported for these special patients.

As aplunk said you should be able to talk to people without gasping for air...

 

[Hans Gruber]

I am not jogging but running. The difference is that running is much faster than jogging, so in the end I am only running for about 25 minutes. I started it to support my loss of weight in early 2004. Now i am mostly doing to stay in shape and fit. I can´t say it has helped me with my depressions or the thought about my ugliness. Rather the opposite, since I started to get in shape I have become much more obsessed with my looks, before I simply didn´t care...... :thumbsdown:

And yes, ipod is a must have, I usually listen to The Stooges, Rage against the machine or The Rolling Stones.

Taug ya better looking than mick jagger! surely when ya listening to 'gimme shelter' you must feel better ?