Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

Follisket

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Do people even get results like that from Minoxidil? I never got anything more than peach fuzz.
Assuming the photos are legit, those are some really good results. But then who knows what's really in that GB lotion anyway. Unless google translate is playing tricks on me, the same user who posted the photos also complained about side effects.

I so want to let myself get excited about this.
 

JakeSmores80

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Folks, I already have the lotion synthesis worked out. I need some help with a discrepancy:

There is a disconnect in the measurements Brotzu is using in his published paper and in his patent. The disconnect is particularly with regards to S-Equol and phosphotidylcoline liposome quantity. Maybe you can help:

In his italian article ( for his trial published in Derematologic ), he uses :
  • 0.1 g / 100mg of S-equol,
  • 0.1g /100mg of carnitine,
  • 0.05g /50mg of DGLA dissolved in
  • 28.6g of phosphotidylcoline
  • 162ml of water.
  • 0.005 g /5mg to 0.01 g /10mg of Stearlyamine

In comparison, in his patent he use:
  • 1g of Phosphatidylcholine Humangrade
  • 1.25 mg of DGLA
  • 7mg of S-Equol
  • 1ml of Ethanol
  • 7mg of L-propionylcarnitine
  • 10mg of Stearylamine
  • Sterile water 5 ml + more as required

There is a big difference in equol and phosphotidylcoline . Any idea why? Anyone can explain?
 

timberman

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About the S-Equol difference, that maybe due one being for females and the higher concentration version for males. From what I understood from Beps is that the lotion comes in two S-Equol strenghts variants, so one for females and one for males.
 

JakeSmores80

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The "patent" mentions that the s-Equol is 7mg and the patent if you read it closely shows a sample of 6 male and 4 female for Group 1 using LOTION !

In contrast:

The dermatologic article that was a trial performed on women (Donna) shows s-Equol as 100mg . The dermatologic article study was done on women solely.

So @timberman, I'm noticing the "inverse" of what you said. The Equol quantity is larger in the female trial published in the journal and smaller in the male and female mix trial mentioned in the patent .

Logic says s-Equol is a DHT inhibitor so we should use more in men than in women as men have higher Dht .

The puzzle pieces are not falling in place. Any help to reconcile this will be much appreciated!

Thanks for helping us figure this out.
 

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Woman have to use stronger/more anti androgens to archive an effect. Probably because the androgen sensitivity is already higher, as they bald from very low androgen levels.
That would ve an explanation. I would also not read too much into the patent. It's probably slighly altered exactly to stop bootleggers. Brotzu never handed in a proper peer reviewed paper.
 

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Just give me the s-equol + vehicle and screw the rest. I just want to stop androgens I dont care about the rest of the formula or the price increases that come with the other stuff. Can S-equol stop androgens better or near propecia and do it any more safely? That is the only question worth answering because if it cant then your still going to need propecia or like minoxidil your hair will continue to miniaturize.
Most likely I mean I guess we never really know anything until its proven and working
 

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Do people even get results like that from Minoxidil? I never got anything more than peach fuzz.
Assuming the photos are legit, those are some really good results. But then who knows what's really in that GB lotion anyway. Unless google translate is playing tricks on me, the same user who posted the photos also complained about side effects.

I so want to let myself get excited about this.

Yeah I been on minoxidil like 7 or 8 months so far, and I might give it like 3 or 4 more but if I basically grew some peach fuzz what is the point? I mean peach fuzz isnt worth the effort even using the minoxidil its completely pointless. Terminal hairs are what matter peach fuzz may as well be balding hairs if you cant see them anyway
 

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to the next person that responds to this thread - I will hunt you down. I will harvest your organs while you're still alive. and finally, I will bury your body deep below the frost line, so even in winter, the bugs will consume your flesh.
 

That Guy

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to the next person that responds to this thread - I will hunt you down. I will harvest your organs while you're still alive. and finally, I will bury your body deep below the frost line, so even in winter, the bugs will consume your flesh.

I'm waiting
 

hairblues

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Yeah I been on minoxidil like 7 or 8 months so far, and I might give it like 3 or 4 more but if I basically grew some peach fuzz what is the point? I mean peach fuzz isnt worth the effort even using the minoxidil its completely pointless. Terminal hairs are what matter peach fuzz may as well be balding hairs if you can't see them anyway

Yeah but it might be helping you maintain so be 'sure' when you go off it.
 

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Jim4462

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I have just one question for people who know the general science behind this: will it cause a shed like minoxidil ? ?
 

recboi

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anyone know, assuming this works, will we be able to get this in the usa, or like with clove cigarettes, strong minoxidil, it will be banned in the usa?
 
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