Is it corrupt

[ruhkus]

I just was wondering if the doctors make a commision for perscribing things such as propecia or avodart?

 

[Cassin]

How do you think the commission would get paid? Do you think Walgreens or whoever submits prescription receipts to MERK or GlaxoSmithKline and then they track down the doctor to mail him a check?

 

[docj077]

I just was wondering if the doctors make a commision for perscribing things such as propecia or avodart?

No.

However, some doctors lack personal morals and ethics, so they might frequently allow a pharmaceutical representative to take them out for supper or pay for a trip to a conference in Jamaica. But, doctors still don't have to use their drugs.

 

[sphlanx2006]

Yes, and pharmaceutical companies give NICE gifts, to try and convinve the doctor to prescribe their medication. On the other hand, the doctor has too report the effects each medication has on each patient(the patient name is not mentioned offcourse), so there is some kind of "tracking". My uncle is a psychotherapist and he always goes nice trips to exotic places.

 

[abcdefg]

Do you think the guys at merk that invented propecia use it themselves? Thats what I wanna know. Do they still use it today after learning more about it?

 

[Petchsky]

Do you think the guys at merk that invented propecia use it themselves? Thats what I wanna know. Do they still use it today after learning more about it?

Who cares? The posters on this forum are more experienced with propecia than Merck, and everything from the clinical trails is published on the internet for anyone to peruse.

The five year clinical trails are on this website somewhere and there are posters knocking around on this forum that have been on prpopecia for over 8 years.

 

[Cassin]

I just was wondering if the doctors make a commision for perscribing things such as propecia or avodart?

No.

However, some doctors lack personal morals and ethics, so they might frequently allow a pharmaceutical representative to take them out for supper or pay for a trip to a conference in Jamaica. But, doctors still don't have to use their drugs.

Well that has nothing to do with your original question.

 

[docj077]

I just was wondering if the doctors make a commision for perscribing things such as propecia or avodart?

No.

However, some doctors lack personal morals and ethics, so they might frequently allow a pharmaceutical representative to take them out for supper or pay for a trip to a conference in Jamaica. But, doctors still don't have to use their drugs.

Well that has nothing to do with your original question.

I answered with a brief "no" and then explained how a doctor might be coerced into using a company's product. There are no "kickbacks" or commissions given for the use of particular drugs. Some doctors have invested in some of the drugs that they prescribe, but they receive no direct financial gain from that practice.

 

[Guest]

I just was wondering if the doctors make a commision for perscribing things such as propecia or avodart?

No.

However, some doctors lack personal morals and ethics, so they might frequently allow a pharmaceutical representative to take them out for supper or pay for a trip to a conference in Jamaica. But, doctors still don't have to use their drugs.

there's absolutely nothing wrong with this in my opinion. my dad is a Doctor and they give him all kinds of free stuff: great concert/sports tickets if he wants them, tickets to these indoor kids playgrounds with bumper cars when we were kids. it was just sweet. he never let it affect the drugs he prescribed. pharm reps dont know what drugs he prescribed and he always prescribed what was best for his patients. but there is nothing wrong with taking free stuff as long as you don't let it negatively effect your patients. But let's look at it another way as well: If Merck was wining and dining him and I was a patient of his(assuming I wasnt his son), and he gave me Propecia for my balding but also because it's a Merck drug, well there's nothing with that. I don't go bald, he gets free stuff, and we both are happy. Schaweeet.

Please don't be so quick to question the morals and ethics of doctors who do this.

 

[ruhkus]

How do you think the commission would get paid? Do you think Walgreens or whoever submits prescription receipts to MERK or GlaxoSmithKline and then they track down the doctor to mail him a check?

The could easily happen through the actual drug company not Walgreens....but I never said it did. I was just curious as to why some doctors pushed some products so hard.... I assumed it was for the well being of the patient....but I just wanted to be sure

 

[Cassin]

The could easily happen through the actual drug company not Walgreens...

How?

 

[bubka]

jesus, think about all the privacy issues alone if there was some type of record here to track doctors to patients to drugs prescribed to drugs bought and commissions paid out...

though drug reps do keep track through how many sample and or coupons the the doctors give out

 

[Guest]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

 

[bubka]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

exactly, i find that the case with most doctors, they don't care about the money, the do what is in your bests interests, the patient, which often includes giving you free drugs if necessary, it's part of their oath

 

[docj077]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

If a doctor is going to give out drugs for free, then he or she must maintain that same sense of ethical and moral idealism throughout their medical career. Taking a trip to Hawaii that is paid for by a drug company simply oozes hypocrisy.

A doctor can't establish a particular moral barometer and then merely stuff it in a drawer whenever the chance to take his or her family to Florida surfaces. That's bullcrap.

 

[wiwiw1212]

The dermatologist didn't really even look at my hair, she just gave me a prescription and a month's worth of samples for Propecia. She was also really pushy about getting a couple moles removed. Worthless doctor.

 

[Guest]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

If a doctor is going to give out drugs for free, then he or she must maintain that same sense of ethical and moral idealism throughout their medical career. Taking a trip to Hawaii that is paid for by a drug company simply oozes hypocrisy.

A doctor can't establish a particular moral barometer and then merely stuff it in a drawer whenever the chance to take his or her family to Florida surfaces. That's bullcrap.

If the doctor takes the free trip but doesn't let it influence how he treats his patients, I see nothing wrong with that. Where do you draw the line anyway? Is it wrong to use pens with drug company logos? How about post-its? Calculators? Is it wrong to take your kids to a baseball game with free tickes from Pfizer?

 

[docj077]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

If a doctor is going to give out drugs for free, then he or she must maintain that same sense of ethical and moral idealism throughout their medical career. Taking a trip to Hawaii that is paid for by a drug company simply oozes hypocrisy.

A doctor can't establish a particular moral barometer and then merely stuff it in a drawer whenever the chance to take his or her family to Florida surfaces. That's bullcrap.

If the doctor takes the free trip but doesn't let it influence how he treats his patients, I see nothing wrong with that. Where do you draw the line anyway? Is it wrong to use pens with drug company logos? How about post-its? Calculators? Is it wrong to take your kids to a baseball game with free tickes from Pfizer?

Everything that a drug company gives a doctor should be used for the good of the patients and never for the good of the doctor. Free drug samples, pens, calculators, and post-its can all be used to help patients. However, tickets to a baseball game is pretty much violates medical ethics.

 

[Guest]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

If a doctor is going to give out drugs for free, then he or she must maintain that same sense of ethical and moral idealism throughout their medical career. Taking a trip to Hawaii that is paid for by a drug company simply oozes hypocrisy.

A doctor can't establish a particular moral barometer and then merely stuff it in a drawer whenever the chance to take his or her family to Florida surfaces. That's bullcrap.

If the doctor takes the free trip but doesn't let it influence how he treats his patients, I see nothing wrong with that. Where do you draw the line anyway? Is it wrong to use pens with drug company logos? How about post-its? Calculators? Is it wrong to take your kids to a baseball game with free tickes from Pfizer?

Everything that a drug company gives a doctor should be used for the good of the patients and never for the good of the doctor. Free drug samples, pens, calculators, and post-its can all be used to help patients. However, tickets to a baseball game is pretty much violates medical ethics.

Gotcha. So what specialty do you want to go into anyway?

 

[docj077]

people trash docs on here but most docs give out free samples like candy. i know plenty of times where ones ive known have given out 20 or 30 to people who cant afford the med prices and where there are no generics available.

If a doctor is going to give out drugs for free, then he or she must maintain that same sense of ethical and moral idealism throughout their medical career. Taking a trip to Hawaii that is paid for by a drug company simply oozes hypocrisy.

A doctor can't establish a particular moral barometer and then merely stuff it in a drawer whenever the chance to take his or her family to Florida surfaces. That's bullcrap.

If the doctor takes the free trip but doesn't let it influence how he treats his patients, I see nothing wrong with that. Where do you draw the line anyway? Is it wrong to use pens with drug company logos? How about post-its? Calculators? Is it wrong to take your kids to a baseball game with free tickes from Pfizer?

Everything that a drug company gives a doctor should be used for the good of the patients and never for the good of the doctor. Free drug samples, pens, calculators, and post-its can all be used to help patients. However, tickets to a baseball game is pretty much violates medical ethics.

Gotcha. So what specialty do you want to go into anyway?

JayMan,

I have nothing against your dad (I think you said he was a doctor) or the way he runs his practice. Everything I've been saying is my personal opinion and convictions. So, I hope that I haven't offended you.

As for my speciality, I'm going into Internal Medicine. My sub-speciality is probably going to be oncology or asthma and allergy. I haven't decided yet. There are too many variables and if I decide to have a family within the next few years, I'll probably settle with just internal medicine, so that I can actually spend time with the woman I plan to marry and my (hopefully) kids.