Yes, through manual attention. I can’t speak on libido though, since I have never had that.
In Germany And The World, Men Get Infertility And Other Diseases Related To Post-finasteride Syndrom
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Yes, through manual attention. I can’t speak on libido though, since I have never had that.
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Dermatologists don't know anything about hair loss drugs. I learned that the hard way.
Now if we're talking about dermatologists who are hair loss specialists, then their words hold more merit.
When, about 5 years ago, a couple of dermatologists had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned finasteride and minoxidil, and only knew them as Propecia and Rogaine, all of their hair loss credibility went out the window. And this was a top dermatology clinic in NYC.
When it comes to skin conditions, fine, I give dermatologists credit. But when it comes to hair loss, there are many regular posters on this forum who know more about hair loss and and hair loss drugs than your average dermatologist.
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You simple can eliminate normal enzymes in the body and don't have side effects. I so simple to see it....
Yeah if you think so logically about it then yes. But is it reasonable to think like this? What the f*** do we even currently know about our bodies compared to what there is still to discover? I don't think we are in the position currently to make such claims.
I mean, maybe DHT is useless after one is fully developed? To me this sounds as 'logical' as your claim.
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https://ishrs.org/2019/05/27/finast...twitter&utm_term=blog&utm_content=finasteride.
Just to play devils advocate and yes i knows its a hair transplant website.
Just to play devils advocate and yes i knows its a hair transplant website.
Misleading research, which can be expected if you look at who funded this study. They compare men that use finasteride vs men that do not use finasteride and found no differences in sexual functioning. Obviously, most men that do experience sexual side effects will no longer be on the drug...
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You can look at that both ways, also shows that men who used the drug did not have sexual sides. All depends what way you look at it.
We all know that not all men experience sexual sides on finasteride. That is the only thing that this study confirms. The controversy is regarding the percentage of how many men experience them and the existence of PFS
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And tbh we will probably never know, all we can go on is actual scientific research which for the time being seems to back up mercks study. anyway im off this debate.
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No. The research design is very flawed. Someone that quits finasteride has no more reason to come into the the office, so the group that you actually want to study ar excluded.
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Evaluation of sexual function with an international index of erectile function in subjects taking finasteride for androgenetic alopecia.
Study where they took a number of patients and followed all of them, including the ones who quit the drug and found no difference in erectile function.
Drug Treatment for Androgenetic Alopecia: First Italian Questionnaire Survey on What Dermatologists Think about Finasteride
Study where they asked dermatologists about the rate of side effects they observed, and found no differences with clinical trials.
In the file I found about the research there is no mention of including participants that quit the drug. Also they state that side effects always dissappear when people quit Telogen Effluvium drug: "Finasteride-induced sexual dysfunction is nevertheless a benign condition that completely resolves after therapy is discontinued."
Even Merck itself has admitited that this is not always the case.
Not sure what point that you are trying to make with this study? That dermatologists consider finasteride the best first line of defense when i comes to fighting male pattern baldness? Well, we were all pretty much aware of that already right? I did find some interesting things in this study though:
- 31% of the derms do not prescribe finasteride for Androgenetic Alopecia. 69% of that group do so because of its side effect profile.
- Of the remaining derms that do recommend using finasteride for Androgenetic Alopecia only 33% recommended it for long term use (5 years)
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The point of the 2nd study was that the rate of side-effects is similar to what has been observed in clincial trials.
I ain't gonna waste any more time on u. Literally any high value study confirms that side-effect profile is low for finasteride and that post-finasteride syndrome has a very limited scientific background. All studies that indicate otherwise were in small trials or even surveys, full of selection bias and funded by the Post-finasteride foundation. Now they are even updating their website with post-accutane syndrome and claiming that drug causes the same kind of side-effects? And these side-effects are ridiculous, coloured penis, numbed anus? Pretty f*****g funny if u ask me.
Have anything to back up your claims besides your never ending purpose to defend finasteride till the end of times?
Red herring much?
link?
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I still don't get it why derma doctors are the ones prescribing Finasteride when the mechanism of action is simply not within their competence. It's as if you're going to see a podiatrist for bad tooth (i"m exagerating for the sake of argument). I believe that after the derma confirms male pattern baldness and suggests Fina, one should also consult with an endocrinology specialist that has some experience with fina (both positive and negative). And yes, at this moment it is undebateable that Fina is the best bet against hair loss. And instead of choosing one side or the other (either pro or against Fina) we should remember that in fact all of us here are in one camp: losing hair (whether you treat it or not, conceal or not etc.) But I guess many of us here like to play the expert card..... because internet anonymity empowers this behaviour.
For me, side effect of the magnitude that some people get are not worth even for getting to keep (some of) my hair no matter how much I like my hair. And I do not have months or years to deal with recuperating. Fortunately I am in my late 30s and I had my teenage and 20s free of this mental burdeon. For other, sides (if they get them) are just a small inconvenient on the road to achieve their hairy goals. And other yet again are willing to risk (albeit could be a small risk) their health so they can keep their hair.
The thing is we should all be able to express ourselves and learn from each other without the constant bashing, fear mongering, intimidations and other bs.
For me, side effect of the magnitude that some people get are not worth even for getting to keep (some of) my hair no matter how much I like my hair. And I do not have months or years to deal with recuperating. Fortunately I am in my late 30s and I had my teenage and 20s free of this mental burdeon. For other, sides (if they get them) are just a small inconvenient on the road to achieve their hairy goals. And other yet again are willing to risk (albeit could be a small risk) their health so they can keep their hair.
The thing is we should all be able to express ourselves and learn from each other without the constant bashing, fear mongering, intimidations and other bs.
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