if cannabis is an anti inflammatory...

[g.i joey]

Why can't we find a way to use it/extract the anti inflammatory components and use it for scalp inflammation. Would be nice to hear some of your opinions on it.

And yes, I am a huge pothead

 

[Agustin Araujo]

I use Cannabis and it doesn't do anything to help treat my male pattern baldness. I take CBD oil and I mainly smoke Sativa dominant strains with high THC levels, and has not made my hair better nor worse whatsoever.

 

[massa]

Mary Jane isn't harmful to the body at least compared to alcohol and tobacco and shouldn't affect hair. Whatever anyone tells you there are in fact health benefits from pot. It is a good stress reliever although I don't take it personally. There have been ZERO overdoses in history lol someone even overdosed and died from drinking too much water last year so it is safe, **** the government for outlawing MJ while legalizing cigs (which kill 1 in 3 Americans) I advise anyone to help reduce stress levels as much as possible if you're prone to male pattern baldness it should be a priority, if it involves drugs so be it. I do believe removing DHT through dutasteride/finasteride and removing PGD2 (seti or OC) whilst promoting PGE2 and applying minoxidil sulphate (superior form of minoxidil) and having normal cortisol and stress levels should at the minimum prevent hair loss. If not then this **** will never end and a wig is beckoning but I remain hopeful all that works

 

[massa]

Marijuana is not harmful to the body? Not what science says. I'm getting tired of this internet hipster hippie leftist propaganda BS about cannabis.

I've been on science and skeptics blogs, and the overall real consensus about weed is that it's harmful and it has no benefits whatsoever. Period.

This is the only benefit, and it's the same one for alcohol: it gets you high. But we didn't need any science to figure that one out.

Seriously im about as right wing as you can get but two states in the US have legalized MJ, and im sure more will follow as people begin to realize they have been brainwashed to believe MJ kills people when it has never killed anybody. I don't do it personally and I don't think kids should do it or anything but please Freddie show me evidence of weed being worse than legal drugs such as alcohol and tobacco... you cant as alcohol is an addictive depressant and nicotine is up there with cocaine on the addictiveness and bodily harm scale. The government make too much money from cig and alcohol tax to change this, it don't make you a left wing hippie its just fact, weed has zero cases of lung, lip or throat cancer yet its perfectly fine and legal to smoke 30 cigs a day! and develop cancer and lung disease. If people want to get high safely weed is the safest drug no-one can deny that.

 

[F2005]

Marijuana's supposed benefits can be debated but one thing that I believe quite strongly is that it is a hell of a lot less harmful than some of the pharmaceutical pills that are being legally advertised to us via television and radio. I live in the United States (one of only 2 countries where peddling pharmaceutical pills directly to the consumer is actually legal) and it sickens me how we are inundated with sh*t like Stelara, Symbicort, Farxiga, or Lyrica, many of which possess terrible side effects (which can even lead to death) and whose conditions they supposedly treat can easily be treated more effectively through natural means like diet and exercise.

 

[g.i joey]

One more cause for your gyno then: http://www.medicaldaily.com/man-boobs-and-marijuana-thc-proven-cause-moobs-264488

You may have been too quick to blame finasteride.

I've been a regular pot smoker since I was 16, though my gyno occurred 1 month after starting finasteride... you're right, it probably wasn't finasteride

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I'm not one to boast about weed being some sort of miracle drug but it definately has benefits in its makeup, for example cbd oil apparently fights cancer (don't know if it'd been confirmed) but cbd oil for epileptic people is a lifesaver: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9qkYLtAhSQ

The thing Is u don't get benefits from actually SMOKING the pot, the cbd has to be extracted in order to work.

Honestly I asked this because I have asthma. And I need to use my pump about once a year when it get the change of seasons cold. Surprisingly when I smoke it gets rid of my lung inflammation.

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Marijuana's supposed benefits can be debated but one thing that I believe quite strongly is that it is a hell of a lot less harmful than some of the pharmaceutical pills that are being legally advertised to us via television and radio. I live in the United States (one of only 2 countries where peddling pharmaceutical pills directly to the consumer is actually legal) and it sickens me how we are inundated with sh*t like Stelara, Symbicort, Farxiga, or Lyrica, many of which possess terrible side effects (which can even lead to death) and whose conditions they supposedly treat can easily be treated more effectively through natural means like diet and exercise.

It's ****ing crazy how they could advertise drugs which side effects last as long as the whole commercial!

 

[GoldenMane]

Anti inflammatories alone do not prevent hair hairloss.

Cannabis is probably safer than alcohol, but more dangerous than any other drug. It burns hotter and results in greater risk of cancer. It's also well know to result in mental illness, particularly depression, paranoia and schizophrenia. I can attest to the fact that while sometimes fun and pleasant, it has also made me paranoid on several occasions, and through frequent use, I became duller for a time. Frequent stoners are often dull and don't realise it. Self medicating is rarely smart when it comes to recreational psychoactive drugs.

 

[Exodus2011]

Anti inflammatories alone do not prevent hair hairloss.

Cannabis is probably safer than alcohol, but more dangerous than any other drug. It burns hotter and results in greater risk of cancer. It's also well know to result in mental illness, particularly depression, paranoia and schizophrenia. I can attest to the fact that while sometimes fun and pleasant, it has also made me paranoid on several occasions, and through frequent use, I became duller for a time. Frequent stoners are often dull and don't realise it. Self medicating is rarely smart when it comes to recreational psychoactive drugs.

those are some very sweeping assumptions. i just looked up two meta analyses, where they sum up groups of studies.

this one states that there was a decrease in heavy marijuana users ability to learn and remember new information, not surprising but they point out that its not that big of an effect. http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/images/pdfs/grant_2003.pdf

the mental illness one is a stickler, i'll give you that. its a complicated thing to study, what with all the factors that you would need to control for, like the fact that people with mental illness are more likely to use drugs (making it a chicken and egg situation) and drugs being used other than marijuana.

this meta analysis is interesting: http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=211301#RESULTS. it says there is definitely an association between cannabis use and mental illness but that does NOT NECESSARILY entail cannabis being the causal factor. there are researchers supporting each side, cannabis being a causal factor of earlier psychosis and it not being a causal factor.

marijuana is easily one of the safest drugs though. for one its common knowledge that no one has ever overdosed from it. and here's some studies comparing it to other drugs . . . . . no surprise its found to be the safest. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4311234/#b3
https://rgable.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/toxicity-addiction-offprint2.pdf

 

[GoldenMane]

Yes I know, correlation=/=causation, however given my own experiences with marijuana and mushrooms, I can say that it certainly had an affect on me. Whether it exacerbated a previously existing condition or predisposition, over time I found myself feeling slower, less sharp, more paranoid, more anxious. Quitting certainly made me feel better.

Alcohol in itself is probably a less dangerous drug than cannabis physiologically, it's less likely to have adverse mental affects or result in cancer (though of course we all know what extreme excess can do to liver and kidneys). Alcohol's main danger is it makes you temporarily very stupid, very uninhibited, more likely to engage in dangerous behaviour while drunk and less in control of your faculties to deal with that danger. So cannabis is a worse drug physiologically, but alchohol makes people temporarily more likely to engage in dangerous behaviour.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Very true. Alcohol has also shown that in moderation it can help improve cardiovascular and cognitive function. But it still remains a dangerous drug, purely because it is abused by a certain number of the population. So many cases in medicine you see due to alcohol - trauma injuries, organ failure, addiction centres, psychiatric impairment e.t.c.

Tobacco cigarettes would never get approved if they came out now. It's purely due to the taxes and the powerful smoking lobbies. Even then, it has been curbed to a great extent in advertising and other areas.

I've never looked into health risks of tobacco v marijuana but marijuana definitely causes mental health issues: psychosis by drugs is commonly due to this. People commonly report "feeling on edge" when taking it as well as "high." Then some people say it helps them too mentally or with pain due to chronic illnesses. Ultimately it's no good and I am pretty sure any smoke inhaled will kill brain cells and mental function to some extent. Also marijuana normally has tobacco mixed in to help it burn so the risks overlap.

I've dabbled with all 3 but very rarely. I tend to drink on average per year about 2 units per week, very little. Some days when I go out it will be like 20 units in a day but then I won't drink for months. It's even less likely for me to smoke anything.

Moderation is the name of the game! Unless it's male pattern baldness, then hellouser's kitchen sink is advised.

 

[Exodus2011]

lmao at you guys ****ting claims out like its a sure thing

"definitely causes mental illness" really wolf pack? i couldnt find ANYTHING conclusive on it being the causal factor, its still up for debate by people much more knowledgeable about this than us . . . .

and lmao "ultimately its no good". so the mountains of evidence showing its benefits for all sorts of diseases and disorders is meaningless? im too lazy to link some but obviously its super easy to find, google takes 2 secs but im on my phone

im disappointed in how much weight u guys put in ur biased anecdotes and opinions. i deal in logic and facts, not emotional beliefs

im biased towards it obviously as well, which is why i dont mention my opinion that its awesome as support for how healthy it is. in my experience it has greatly improved my life

 

[GoldenMane]

I really hate debating the merits of cannabis with potheads... It's been proven to help with glaucoma, but really, it's a recreational drug. Sometimes it makes you more relaxed and makes things seem funnier than they are and other times it makes you paranoid or anxious. It's mixed with tobacco and smoked and burns hotter than tobacco increasing risk of cancer. That's it. It doens't make people act as dangerously as alcohol does, but it certainly offers little in the way of physiological or mental well being benefits. I'm not interested in it anymore, but whatever floats your boat. I know very few regular pot smokers who are productive or successful in terms if career. Most pot smokers tend to be lazy and not particularly productive people. Maybe you're different? I don't know.

 

[Wolf Pack]

lmao at you guys ****ting claims out like its a sure thing

"definitely causes mental illness" really wolf pack? i couldnt find ANYTHING conclusive on it being the causal factor, its still up for debate by people much more knowledgeable about this than us . . . .

and lmao "ultimately its no good". so the mountains of evidence showing its benefits for all sorts of diseases and disorders is meaningless? im too lazy to link some but obviously its super easy to find, google takes 2 secs but im on my phone

im disappointed in how much weight u guys put in ur biased anecdotes and opinions. i deal in logic and facts, not emotional beliefs

im biased towards it obviously as well, which is why i dont mention my opinion that its awesome as support for how healthy it is. in my experience it has greatly improved my life

Exodus, negging me for that is almost laughable. It seems like you don't like hearing hard truths in anything. I may not know the ins and outs of it, but certainly if you think it's like consuming an apple a day (as you make it sound), that's not the case. I know enough on it, to know it's not good for you. I have met people in the past who have been addicted to it for a start.

There is literally anecdotal evidence it might help a minority of physical illnesses, to a small extent. And even then, it doesn't mean you smoke tons of it.

It can help depression/anxiety but in a maladaptive way rather than a productive way.

 

[Exodus2011]

we are both attached to our beliefs about it, but that doesnt change wats true

wheres the evidence for your claims? just cuz u say something doesnt make it right

and ive gotten paranoid while high too, it only happened when i was paranoid anyways. i dont see how a drug can create something thats not there. i dont have evidence for that claim but it makes sense to me just based on logic and my experiences (i shud look it up lol)

im not a pothead anyways. at most i smoke a fingernail sized bowl a day. i take couple of drags throughout the day to relax, im far from a heavy user

and wolf pack really? i pegged you a rational guy, how does your rationality disappear when it comes to this?

 

[Wolf Pack]

and wolf pack really? i pegged you a rational guy, how does your rationality disappear when it comes to this?

I am not an anti drug guy. But in those prone to mental illnesses, I have seen that regular use will make them worse. THC does cause issues in the brain and possibly respiratory system too. Then add in mixing with tobacco and what that does. Also take into account the withdrawal symptoms if you can't get hold of some.

Not directing it at you, just saying. Yeah if you're not a heavy user, I can't see it doing much damage.

When I get time I will try and post some evidence. Pretty sure there is more in favour against it than for it.

If you smoke it in your teen years it decreases your IQ as your brain is still developing.

 

[Exodus2011]

ok then, all i want is an honest discussion based on reason

its hard to find on something like this lol, the stoners are biased to it and the anti druggies are biased against it

im biased but i dont let it get the best of me. u saw how i posted that study showing its association with mental illness.

iirc physically is practically harmless but this is the world of hallucinogens so im concerned about possible mental downsides.

for me too much smoking hurts my memory ofc, but at the same time it greatly increases my creative thoughts

meh, tis a tradeoff for me. but my current practice of moderate smoking is perfect, i dont smoke enough to be burnt out but still enough to go to wonderland xD

and honestly i feel addicted. altho it doesnt have any real consequences atm as far as i know (thats why i want some damn science in here! lol)

 

[GoldenMane]

I'm not biased, I'm not anti drugs. I used to enjoy cannabis a lot in college. I smoked ALOT in the first two years. I just decided personally that my life was better without it, that any benefits (relaxation/funny) were random and certainly not worth the price. You know what's better for relaxation than weed? Yoga
You know what tastes better? A delicious craft beer!
You know what is healthier? Pretty much anything.
If you feel addicted then you have a mental addiction, that's not good.
You say it enhances your creativity, but does this benefit you? Are you channeling that creativity? Lots of stoners claim this, but I often find they never actually create anything.

 

[greg711711]

I am not a marijuana smoker now but I smoked a moderate amount in college. I can say from experience that while it does have some small side effects, they are minimal and definitely affect everyone differently. To put it in perspective, male pattern baldness has done 10x more harm to my mental health than marijuana ever would

 

[Exodus2011]

well honestly man it just sounds like i get more out of it than you

when i smoke i trip out, im really sensitive to it and i use that sensitivity to my advantage

and yea i like to fantasize while stoned mainly. it doesnt have to have "practical use", its very very fun and fulfilling to me, that in itself is of practical use

it puts things in perspective for me, especially in regards to baldness

 

[g.i joey]

smoking weed regularly at a young age could maybe effect proper brain development, but not to any major extent. other than that, any possible symptom you feel you get from weed is generally gone hours after you smoked.