I Am Actually Regrowing My Hair + Hairline Without Min Or finasteride (mechanical Stimulation)

wishkid

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If those photos are 1.5 years apart and you've been on finasteride for 1.5 years why do you attribute the regrowth to massaging?
 

MyThinningConfidence

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If those photos are 1.5 years apart and you've been on finasteride for 1.5 years why do you attribute the regrowth to massaging?
Because that difference was on my right temple, my massage experiments these past few months have been on my left temple and I never saw much regrowth at all on the left but it was my less receded temple. Now after doing the massages I'm seeing vellus hairs sprouting up and going longer and I'm beginning to see terminal hairs starting to sprout out.

Basing off of one study I'm fairly convinced that the stretching forces in the scalp via the massage quite literally change the gene expression in the scalp/skin into ones that favour hair growth. So with a combination of treatments it could be a very beneficial part to the regrowth process.

People also need to remember I had regrowth before finasteride and I've been slowly coming back from a NW4.5
 

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Capone

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Because that difference was on my right temple, my massage experiments these past few months have been on my left temple and I never saw much regrowth at all on the left but it was my less receded temple. Now after doing the massages I'm seeing vellus hairs sprouting up and going longer and I'm beginning to see terminal hairs starting to sprout out.

Basing off of one study I'm fairly convinced that the stretching forces in the scalp via the massage quite literally change the gene expression in the scalp/skin into ones that favour hair growth. So with a combination of treatments it could be a very beneficial part to the regrowth process.

People also need to remember I had regrowth before finasteride and I've been slowly coming back from a NW4.5

What has your diet been like through all of us?
 

MyThinningConfidence

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What has your diet been like through all of us?
Pretty much the same lately, I have tried to occasionally eat healthier foods but nothing set in stone. I also periodically intermittent fast but that's not directed towards hariloss.
Congratulations man! How many minutes on average do you massage a day?
As of late around 10-30 minutes but I mainly focus on the left temple at the moment to test the massages, I just do it slowly while watching Youtube etc.
 

MyThinningConfidence

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Back to my left temple, definitely looks like the massages are seriously starting to pay off, some big results in just a couple of months. Those longer vellus hairs are genuinely starting to turn into small terminal hairs if we look close which means I'm effectively growing and advancing my hairline into the slick bald region which has been a nightmare for regrowth. It's not even just that, my hairline as a whole just looks a lot healthier and my sides seem to be slowly moving forward and the existing hairs are growing longer and thicker there.

I'm thinking this has to be most definitely the massages considering the gains on the left temple, the only part of my regime I've changed lately aside from that is I started taking VItamin D daily around 3000-4000IU consistently. I took Vitamin D in the past but I ended up forgetting to supplement. With the Coronavirus quarantine I've made sure to take it everyday, all I've been doing is sitting at home and playing video games all day.
 

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MyThinningConfidence

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Here's some extra photos from the past couple of weeks, the first picture is probably confusing to look at but it's taken from above, harder to tell on the closeups.

I was going to do some before and afters but it's too much of a headache trying to get the same angle and lighting without blurring the picture, my whole orientation gets thrown off too since my hairline has changed, I did get some semi-close ones though that I might upload in the future.
 

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EP93

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Awesome to see your results! You're giving me hope! I'll be 25 this year and have been balding since 21. I've been trying different things over the years and recently came across this aggressive massage technique which led me to finding your thread. My crown is thin like yours used to be, although maybe not quite so thin. Looking forward to trying what you've done!
 

5minutesbeforemiracle

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@MyThinningConfidence since you're ascribing a lot of your recent success to scalp massages, I'm wondering if you would say that you had a tight scalp prior to massages?
I ask because I'm trying to see if having an initially tight scalp is a precursor to massages being successful.
 

Mr. Grey

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Here's some extra photos from the past couple of weeks, the first picture is probably confusing to look at but it's taken from above, harder to tell on the closeups.

I was going to do some before and afters but it's too much of a headache trying to get the same angle and lighting without blurring the picture, my whole orientation gets thrown off too since my hairline has changed, I did get some semi-close ones though that I might upload in the future.


Hello! How many hair (approximately) do you lose at the moment of massage session?
 

MyThinningConfidence

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My scalp itch came back and I was trying to root out the cause, I believe it's due to me washing my hair less now as I've only been washing it once every 2-4 days. It was a lot thicker so I was more comfortable with it less clean but this appears to have caused my scalp itch to come back along with acne on my scalp which is what I believe to be a form of seborrheic dermatitis, it appears that washing my hair with zinc pyrithione shampoo almost every day is integral to my regime. I've felt the scalp itch coming back lightly ever since i swapped shampoo types earlier this year but didn't think much of it. I swapped from that organic one I have linked in my main post to Head and Shoulders Itchy Scalp care, I'm not sure if the different shampoo is simply less effective or if I'm simply not washing my hair as much but washing my hair with the newer shampoo does ease the itch.

It's seriously sucky because I lost a decent amount of density which is primarily on the top of the scalp and crown, you can now see little cracks in my fringe due to reduced density. I'm assuming it will regrow but it sucks because my hair is long now and it will take a long time, it's not the worst but it feels pretty shitty to lose some ground after such a good run.

On the plus side my left temple seems unaffected and it does seemingly appear to be regrowing hair, nothing drastic but quite a few of the small little vellus hairs turned into fully grown terminal ones.
 

Dehydrotestostewronged

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Nice. Your hair is growing back in a similar fashion to mine, but you have much more dramatic stippling. How did you achieve it? Is there some sort of technique youve been using when microneedling? I just stab the hell out of myself over and over in a quasi--chaotic fashion until its saturated in blood. Curious how you got such tight and pronounced temple stubble.


Since this thread is so long is your regimen basically *just* finasteride + nizoral + pyrithione zinc + microneedling + scalp massage? Am I missing anything?

Can you elaborate on your mechanical approach to microneedling. I know thats hard to type, but Im curious how come you got such tight stippling and mines just here and there.

Whats the point of 40% glycolic acid and salicylic acid?

How long did it take your crown to grow back to full thickness? Mine is kind of stuck, but looks to be slowly thickening but its like fine baby hair right now and its blonde like I was when I was a kid lol...

How often do you use the zinc shampoo? Im gonna buy a 2% one to add to my regimen, and alternate it with nizoral.

What derminator do you use?
 
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kungfukenny

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Nice. Your hair is growing back in a similar fashion to mine, but you have much more dramatic stippling. How did you achieve it? Is there some sort of technique youve been using when microneedling? I just stab the hell out of myself over and over in a quasi--chaotic fashion until its saturated in blood. Curious how you got such tight and pronounced temple stubble.


Since this thread is so long is your regimen basically *just* finasteride + nizoral + pyrithione zinc + microneedling + scalp massage? Am I missing anything?

Can you elaborate on your mechanical approach to microneedling. I know thats hard to type, but Im curious how come you got such tight stippling and mines just here and there.

Whats the point of 40% glycolic acid and salicylic acid?

How long did it take your crown to grow back to full thickness? Mine is kind of stuck, but looks to be slowly thickening but its like fine baby hair right now and its blonde like I was when I was a kid lol...

How often do you use the zinc shampoo? Im gonna buy a 2% one to add to my regimen, and alternate it with nizoral.

What derminator do you use?
What is your regimen bro? How did u regrow your hair? Thanks!
 

Dehydrotestostewronged

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What is your regimen bro? How did u regrow your hair? Thanks!

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...y-signs-of-temple-regrowth-pics.115543/page-3

The quick answer is finasteride rogaine foam nizoral shampoo and 1.5mm microneedling till Im bloody.

Ive added collagen/biotin dosing and collagen/biotin shampoo/conditioner as well as taking the 2% zinc shampoo from this thread and ordered a derminator 2 also taken from this thread at 2.5mm like Mythinningconfidence was doing. None of the things listed in this segment have been implemented yet except the collagen stuff and its way too early to credit any of that for results to date.
 
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