Humans Do Nothing But Cope Because Life Is Suffering.

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Rudiger said:
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Exopuss; conscientousness makes the ladies go Yu-Gi-Ohhhh!
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Rudiger said:
I didn't tell her because it might get her hopes up and I'd get cold feet probably.



I've got a job I've worked hard to move up in, but ultimately even though it's a great reference I have no real qualifications to start me off in something similar in another country for the same wage.

Removing material logistics, if I was convinced we're eternally in love (dunno if that sounds dramatic but I have felt like this before) then it wouldn't even be a question, she'd move here or I'd move there.

However with the issues we naturally have in arguing with each other and to be honest, how she can tend to be when literally deciding to be in bad form, it's like a different person comes out of nowhere. I'm not giving up my job, the life I've set up here and even my potential happiness for what could be a volatile relationship.
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Sounds like you made the right choice.
 
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Exodus2011 said:
As long as you do what you have to it shouldnt be an issue
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The problem is that i don't do anything in my life, i have no motivation or goals or energy to do anything. My parents always yell and insult me for that, but i can't just do anything because i'm crippled.
 
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Stanx22 said:
The problem is that i don't do anything in my life, i have no motivation or goals or energy to do anything. My parents always yell and insult me for that, but i can't just do anything because i'm crippled.
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You aren't crippled.
 
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I think most love is fictional, without your own selfish desires towards the one you claim to love and the conditions the other must live up to for you to stay involved in this artificial state(love) there's nothing.
Before you decide your falling in love or in love, ejaculate and then make your decision. lol by the way I got that quote from Ice T in a straight porno and it holds true.
 
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scorpiolove said:
I think most love is fictional, without your own selfish desires towards the one you claim to love and the conditions the other must live up to for you to stay involved in this artificial state(love) there's nothing.
Before you decide your falling in love or in love, ejaculate and then make your decision. lol by the way I got that quote from Ice T in a straight porno and it holds true.
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Slapping the salami is vital to romantic decisions. Never forget that. Also, I would like to add to what you said. Not only is love fictional, but if it weren't fictional I'm not even sure it would be the ideal. I think the ideal situation is predicated on the man and woman fulfilling their duty. The thousands upon thousands of years of human existence had it right. The man/woman coupling should be two people serving a duty, and staying together to raise children and eventually care for each other in old age. Better still, the children should be close by to assist in caring for their parents in old age. This is how it has always been done. And before the Lena Dunham's of this board chime in, let me say its up to the couple to define what the duties are, but it is imperative they fulfill them for the rest of their lives. Matriarchal societies work too. The 19th and 20th centuries brought in this very marketable and very profitable idea of romance and cute picnics and paying for cool trips to Hawaii and blah blah blah. The 21st century has made it even worse with selfies and Facebook relationship statuses.

Don't get me wrong, I get butterflies too when I'm with a new woman. But hopefully, as time goes on, I begin to more fully accept that romantic frivolity will never give the fulfillment of living up to one's purpose; one's duty.
 
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Stanx22 said:
Let's throw out some philosophy here.

I actually don't believe in what people call "love", not the word, but the actual meaning of it. We all know that life is suffering for anyone, but it differs from one to another and how people react to it and how much a person can take before he goes insane, but we all still suffer.

Why we suffer ? Because humans are sensitive beings who love drama, attention and willingly seek out for problems and because humans seek perfection and at the end of the day no one can achieve that.

Let's talk again about "love" and how i see it. My concept of love that it's a selfish desires everyone feel when they find a person that lessens their suffering in life, so they try their hardest to not lose that person because their suffering would dramatically increase.

Before you get mad and shout out at me ask yourselves this. Would you prefer to die before the person you "love" dies or die after they die ?

I know that 99% would prefer to die first.

Why ? Isn't the person going to die anyways ? Because if that person you love died first you would suffer and the role that person did in lessening your suffering would be over, but if you died first you would be dead anyways, so it wouldn't matter because you wont be hurt or suffer.

In conclusion we only care for ourselves at the end of the day and that's why i don't believe in "love" and the weird fantasy people delude themselves to believe is true.

I know that you would say that i'm coping because i can't get a relationship and you're not wrong, but even "love" and relationships are forms of coping with life and it's suffering, so i'm technically coping for not being able to cope better, because eventually everything humans do is a cope because human nature is strange and too weird to be fully understood.

For people who are mad because of this post, calm down this is the philosophy of a 18 years old and please don't quote the last part of my post about my age and say "that's your problem you're still young".
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Even true love is suffering. The "love" that's normally presented to us in pop culture is infatuation or puppy love - a temporary high emotion
that never lasts. But is sells cause people love that drug affect from it.

In a marriage situation love is self sacrifice, cause lets not kid ourselves it's a lot of work and compromise for the other person. To the point
that couples would rather split in a divorce. As far as love lasting as puppy love, almost impossible, very rare and far in between. Gotta maintain a child like demeanor in a cruel adult world. If you have decent genetics and wealth and faith in God you can shield yourself better.

But ya for the most part C-3PO hit it right on the nail head:

 
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templerecess said:
Slapping the salami is vital to romantic decisions. Never forget that. Also, I would like to add to what you said. Not only is love fictional, but if it weren't fictional I'm not even sure it would be the ideal. I think the ideal situation is predicated on the man and woman fulfilling their duty. The thousands upon thousands of years of human existence had it right. The man/woman coupling should be two people serving a duty, and staying together to raise children and eventually care for each other in old age. Better still, the children should be close by to assist in caring for their parents in old age. This is how it has always been done. And before the Lena Dunham's of this board chime in, let me say its up to the couple to define what the duties are, but it is imperative they fulfill them for the rest of their lives. Matriarchal societies work too. The 19th and 20th centuries brought in this very marketable and very profitable idea of romance and cute picnics and paying for cool trips to Hawaii and blah blah blah. The 21st century has made it even worse with selfies and Facebook relationship statuses.

Don't get me wrong, I get butterflies too when I'm with a new woman. But hopefully, as time goes on, I begin to more fully accept that romantic frivolity will never give the fulfillment of living up to one's purpose; one's duty.
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Iirc marriage was almost entirely a business affair throughout history
 
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