how does this regimen look?

[_undead_]

nizoral daily
topical spironolactone
finasteride 2.5mg daily
rogaine 2x daily


i just noticed my hairloss a week ago. at first it was a tiny bit but its been getting worse daily. the top of my head has way less hair than just a week ago and im losing hair at my temples too. this sucks because im only 18. do you guys think ill be able to grow it back successfully? ive set up an appointment with a dermatologist but its a month from now. any help or advice is appreciated.

 

[s.a.f]

2.5mg of finasteride!??
You only need 1mg max 2.5mg wont be any more effective.

 

[_undead_]

2.5mg of finasteride!??
You only need 1mg max 2.5mg wont be any more effective.

o yeah thats another thing i had to ask. if the halflife of finasteride is 6-8 hours, wouldnt it be a good idea to dose it twice a day or so?

 

[_undead_]

Yes, the best course of action for efficacy would be to have it administered via a 24 hr drip but of course you have to find what is most practicable for you.

From what I've read .5mgs every 12 hours is probably your best bet. But then again if you are a good responder to it you could drop a tab when you could be arsed and grow you norwood 1 back. That's just the way it is.

im sorry but i have no idea that you are saying in this part

 

[Hoppi]

Sometimes you really don't need to go TOO overboard all at once.

Like for me, ok on my hairline I'm using miconazole, folligen AND minoxidil, but that's because I really want to pull it forward and there are a lot of follicles that look pretty weak!

However, if I do end up using an all-over topical, I'll probably just start with minoxidil first. I'll see how that does for little bit, and then if I think I need it, maybe I'll add something else such as miconazole or ketoconazole. No point in making more work for yourself than you need to, or spending more money than you need to, at the end of the day

 

[slurms mackenzie]

nizoral daily
topical spironolactone
finasteride 2.5mg daily
rogaine 2x daily


i just noticed my hairloss a week ago. at first it was a tiny bit but its been getting worse daily. the top of my head has way less hair than just a week ago and im losing hair at my temples too. this sucks because im only 18. do you guys think ill be able to grow it back successfully? ive set up an appointment with a dermatologist but its a month from now. any help or advice is appreciated.

Steady on fellah!

In the vast majority of cases balding happens a lot more slowly than what the sufferer expects it too, the chances are it's the same with you.

Most people lose most of their hair within one week of noticing they're losing it FACT!

Except they don't really, they just look more, panic more, the mind plays tricks, new angles are found and new lighting conditions to make the things look worse, before you know it that mild bit of recession is a diffuse norwood 6 and your looking forward to the day you can cash in your pension because at least everyone else will have a hairline like yours (okay you'll have to get through graduation first in your case).


The mind can play brutal tricks when people first notice hairloss, people rarely judge their rate of hairloss correctly at first.


A lot of people lose their hair at the temples, it's normal and can be seen as heading towards a mature hairline, if you're losing it at the sides then it's pretty normal, if you're losing it on the top of the head near the temples, ie heading towards a norwood 2 then i'd kick into action over it.

Whatever treatments you get on, you could be commiting to them for life.

Bearing in mind it can cost a lot of time and energy to fight hair loss, it's probably best to add 1 or 2 treatments at a time. There's no need to use Nizoral daily and there's no need to add spironolactone.

If you use propecia it's going to take three months to see whether or not it's working at least do that (using 1mg a day) rather than commiting to spironolactone as well.

Personally I'd lay off the rogaine as well to start with, rogaine is like a turbo booster for your hair it doesn't stop hairloss, so you wouldn't be able to tell if the propecia alone was halting your hairloss, it would IMO be best to know that you've tackled the underlying hairloss before going for any regrowth (other people might have different opinions on this).

You're young this has come as a shock to you, so you want to do every thing you can at first. I don't blame you I'd have felt the same, but believe me you should be alright taking it more slowly.

 

[_undead_]

thx for the advice guys. so you think i should drop the spironolactone?

also, ive been shedding about 10-20 hairs a day. and thats just the ones i can see and count. im scared shitless tbh. ive also noticed that the top of my scalp has been tingling and itching a fair bit over the past week since i noticed it. i started the finasteride yesterday and i gotten as much. is that a good thing?

also, can someone explain what "norwood" means?

 

[slurms mackenzie]

thx for the advice guys. so you think i should drop the spironolactone?

also, ive been shedding about 10-20 hairs a day. and thats just the ones i can see and count. im scared shitless tbh. ive also noticed that the top of my scalp has been tingling and itching a fair bit over the past week since i noticed it. i started the finasteride yesterday and i gotten as much. is that a good thing?

also, can someone explain what "norwood" means?

Sure it's a scale used to measure hairloss, it's not perfect but it can give you an idea, go onto google images and type in 'norwood scale'

Most people shed about 100 hairs a day anyway, so hair counting may not be useful.

Drop the spironolactone for now, any cessation of itching is regarded as a good sign.

And please take photos, they can help you monitor how far you've come along, and can be a source of comfort on bad days.

Oh and don't expect results for at least 3 months

 

[_undead_]

[quote="_undead_":3ctno5tf]thx for the advice guys. so you think i should drop the spironolactone?

also, ive been shedding about 10-20 hairs a day. and thats just the ones i can see and count. im scared shitless tbh. ive also noticed that the top of my scalp has been tingling and itching a fair bit over the past week since i noticed it. i started the finasteride yesterday and i gotten as much. is that a good thing?

also, can someone explain what "norwood" means?

Sure it's a scale used to measure hairloss, it's not perfect but it can give you an idea, go onto google images and type in 'norwood scale'

Most people shed about 100 hairs a day anyway, so hair counting may not be useful.

Drop the spironolactone for now, any cessation of itching is regarded as a good sign.

And please take photos, they can help you monitor how far you've come along, and can be a source of comfort on bad days.

Oh and don't expect results for at least 3 months[/quote:3ctno5tf]


thx a lot. i didnt expect instant results. ive been spending some time lurking around here.


just one last question. if the 5AR I enzyme converts test to dht and scars/damages the follicles, can they still grow new hairs?

 

[slurms mackenzie]

[quote="sir chugalot":1ryldtmf][quote="_undead_":1ryldtmf]thx for the advice guys. so you think i should drop the spironolactone?

also, ive been shedding about 10-20 hairs a day. and thats just the ones i can see and count. im scared shitless tbh. ive also noticed that the top of my scalp has been tingling and itching a fair bit over the past week since i noticed it. i started the finasteride yesterday and i gotten as much. is that a good thing?

also, can someone explain what "norwood" means?

Sure it's a scale used to measure hairloss, it's not perfect but it can give you an idea, go onto google images and type in 'norwood scale'

Most people shed about 100 hairs a day anyway, so hair counting may not be useful.

Drop the spironolactone for now, any cessation of itching is regarded as a good sign.

And please take photos, they can help you monitor how far you've come along, and can be a source of comfort on bad days.

Oh and don't expect results for at least 3 months[/quote:1ryldtmf]


thx a lot. i didnt expect instant results. ive been spending some time lurking around here.


just one last question. if the 5AR I enzyme converts test to dht and scars/damages the follicles, can they still grow new hairs?[/quote:1ryldtmf]

It's my understanding that the damage can be reversed if caught early enough.

If the follicle is being attacked by the DHT and is damaged, then at first the hair carries on growing but the hairs get thinner and thinner until they're microscopic.

 

[Hoppi]

I don't agree with this 3 month stuff

I think shedding can be stopped very quickly with a good regimen. Also... I'm SURE I can see way more fuzz around my hairline (DEFINITELY around my temples) and it's been... like.. 3 weeks or a month?

 

[slurms mackenzie]

I don't agree with this 3 month stuff

I think shedding can be stopped very quickly with a good regimen. Also... I'm SURE I can see way more fuzz around my hairline (DEFINITELY around my temples) and it's been... like.. 3 weeks or a month?

I think the majority of people would agree its too early to judge results and panic after 3 weeks or a month.

You've been on this forum for over a year , so my guess is you've been tackling hair loss for a lot longer than 3 weeks or a month, other issues may be at work.

Please don't confuse the lad and make him panic.

 

[Nashville Hairline]

Seems a very heavy regimen, if you are 'just noticing' hairloss it probably isn't particularly bad. Personally, I'd just go with an anti-androgen.

 

[_undead_]

Seems a very heavy regimen, if you are 'just noticing' hairloss it probably isn't particularly bad. Personally, I'd just go with an anti-androgen.

but a "heavy" regimen cant hurt right?

 

[Nashville Hairline]

[quote="Nashville Hairline":2afjncjs]Seems a very heavy regimen, if you are 'just noticing' hairloss it probably isn't particularly bad. Personally, I'd just go with an anti-androgen.

but a "heavy" regimen cant hurt right?[/quote:2afjncjs]
Just your pocket...

 

[TheInvincible]

[quote="Nashville Hairline":uc4hguj5]Seems a very heavy regimen, if you are 'just noticing' hairloss it probably isn't particularly bad. Personally, I'd just go with an anti-androgen.

but a "heavy" regimen cant hurt right?[/quote:uc4hguj5]

no, but you won't know what's working and more importantly, you won't know what is causing side-effects. removing spironolactone is a must and using nizoral daily is too much. i wouldn't even start finasteride and minoxidil at the same time, but i think that is not so bad.