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So s.a.f your saying your not promoting any american or canadian clinics strange l have been reading your comments on other pages on this site sorry mate you are always supporting the american clinics and running down any other clinic ,l want you to get this right now lm not working for the hg or anyone else ,lm very happy with my results and yes they where done here its a fact l have experienced 2 h/ts and had 2 good results which l am very very happy with ,you have seen my before photos so you should realise that was never going to get dentisy i would only have had the front area done with 4000 grafts l didnt want that l went for coverage and thats what l got ,
 

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so you no nothing about hair transplants then only what you have read about then well you shouldn't make comments about other peoples experience if you haven't any yourself, your just miss leading people ,and to your childish remark your wrong yet again its getting the hair back on top of your head that counts you clown thats what the whole things about !

I have no idea what you just said.
 

s.a.f

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best-uk-h/t said:
So s.a.f your saying your not promoting any american or canadian clinics strange l have been reading your comments on other pages on this site sorry mate you are always supporting the american clinics and running down any other clinic ,l want you to get this right now lm not working for the hg or anyone else ,lm very happy with my results and yes they where done here its a fact l have experienced 2 h/ts and had 2 good results which l am very very happy with ,you have seen my before photos so you should realise that was never going to get dentisy i would only have had the front area done with 4000 grafts l didnt want that l went for coverage and thats what l got ,

I never said I'm not promoting them I said I'm not working for them. I definatley am promoting U.S and Canadian clinics (and a couple of european ones) and frankly I dont care if you are on the HG payroll or not.

The fact is I'm here for one reason only to steer guys who want a hair transplant in the right direction and like it or not the best place for anyone who wants a hair transplant is one of the big name surgeons and by big name I dont mean the one that advertises the most or has the most clinics I mean the ones who have built a solid reputation by giving the best possible results and having 100's (yes 100's) of satisfied customers. And most importantly has never completley fucked up anyones head.
And sadly your beloved Hospital group along with the other UK clinics is definatly in the second not the first catagory.

You may be happy with what you got and thats your perogative (some people are happy to have their teeth done at a unlicensed backstreet dentist - most are'nt) but in the interest of saving guys from the sh*t that I went through my advice will only ever be to go to one of the best surgeons, not (as you did) a place that operates on a conveyor belt of general cosmetic surgery basis employing random surgeons who try their hand at a multitude of procedures but are specialised in none of them.

My aim is to educate people about the differences out there between the clinics and for the elite surgeons to continue striving for excelence and the 2nd rate clinics to be exposed and put out of business through lack of custom.

So keep on plugging that dodgy chopshop with their menu of procedures but fortunatley judging by the responses on here people already know about the the Hospital group (and the other UK clinics) woeful reputation. But we have to be prepared to warn the odd newbie who may stray onto this site.
 
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And your the guy to tell them are you! who as supposedly had 2 bad h/t's with norton not one but 2 and then went for a third with knoble and then outward bound to get the bad work repaired in your own country america your not really the best advocate are you, the thing i can't understand is you have never been to HG clinic yet your so quick to discredit them! and i take offence to your comments on my results, l have had good results thanks and lm very pleased with the out come , lf i had listen to your advice l could have spent twice the amount of money for the same result! and before you start splitting hairs l had 4000 grafts and with nearly 100% growth that's a £1 a Graft ,and all you can do is be sarcastic. why would l want to sit on a plane fly out my own country were lm protected by my own laws? to go to a country that has such a high satisfaction rate the courts have as many customers why would i expose myself to much higher risks with much higher cost ? with 1000s of miles to travel if things go wrong! that's what your not telling these newbie's
 

s.a.f

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Not too clever are you? - Ask yourself this, if I was an American like you keep claiming why would I have had 3 UK hair transplant's before going to the states? :whistle:

And like I said although I've never been to the Hospital group I've encounterd enough of their patients seeking to have their heads repaired to know that they are not good. Just go to stophairlossnow (probably the UK's biggest hair transplant site) and search Hospital group you'll find posts from nothing but unhappy patients. So far after 5 yrs on the forums I think I've heard only 2 people (that includes you) promoting them and the other guy was exposed as a salesman. In comparison I must have seen over 20 guys who were unhappy with their HG results.

And I'm sorry to say that if you think you're results are good then you've obviously never seen a real world class hair transplant.
Because I can assure you that the top names could have got a better result from only 1 session.

And FYI (ATTENTION NEWBIES) the laws on cosmetic surgey in this country are completley pitiful compared to the much stricter laws in the U.S, I should know I've made official complaints to all the major medical associations in the UK (where I live) about both Norton and Nobel and the authorities did'nt want to know.

Ps Give it up you're dying on your *** here !!!
 
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s.a.f l have read most of your posts now and i can see that you tend to go with the flow , l can understand you have made 3 bad choices and its made you bitter to anyone who's had a good result here and after 5 years reading info and giving your h/t experience you must have met and helped so many people , you no when you send them on there way to america do you help them with there flights or hotels etc or do they buy the complete package
 

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bEST/WORSTUKHAIRTRANSPLANT,what im saying to you is DONT advertise that this is a good clinic because you know in your heart that they are butchers and work on turnover and try to squeeeeeeeze in 3 patints in 1 day with 1 surgeon,what does that tell people?????????
what if one of the patients needs more time,care and attention to finish his transplant properly?they just rush it along and chuck away wasted graphs and hope that the person wont complain or if he does theyll offer a free 500 graphs to get cut open again,what a shamefull place to do this to onest hard working vunerable men who havent much happiness in life to get kicked in the teeth whilst theyre already down and out.
maybe you think that you are 1 of the lucky ones out of say 1000 patients 999 were unhappy or theyd be posting away showing their great results but they dont,DO THEY???
the salesmen,the surgeons,the cheap polish staff they use for dissection,what a joke.
youve had 2 h/t and i know that your scar is huge and deep,so youve no chance of more hair from that,lucky your just happy to live with that but most guys wont pencil thin trich closures to choose their hairstyles and more graphs so THE HOSPITAL GROUP cant deliver that good service,nor can they create a decent hairline,theyre inexperienced and a rip off and botch crap closures.ahmen
 

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I don't really want to get involved in this hospital group thing as ive never personally been one of their patients, but what i will say is there are loads of unhappy patients on the forums

I tend to use one forum more than others these day(hairlossexperiences.com) even though i personally find they are all great.... ive seen loads of unhappy patient examples on there too.

Sparky is one example(hope you don't mind me mentioning your name sparky) his hospital group scar is bad and his hairline was all wrong before he went to BHR for a repair.

So surely if there are patients on all the major forums complaining they carn't be all that great....stands to reason imo
 
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cowells l don't no what kind of result you had ?some people dont grow well and some expect to much and get really upset ,as you and l know its a personal thing ,in my case which i have tried to stress on here ,l did have to great results and l was bald not a reseding bald !! and now lm not so thats the truth what do the people on here want me to say !! my pictures are there for anyone to see and that is fact
 

s.a.f

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Yeah, if you're genuinley happy with your results then I can only take it that your talking about your hair as a 60+ yr old, but I can tell you now that the guys on here mostly in their 20's and 30's would not be happy to have twice the result that you got, especially after enduring 2 ops!

Infact your pics speak for themselves they do more to deter the guys on here from using the HG than my opinion ever could.

And I know that my Surgeon in New York (who I wont name because I dont want to give you the pathetic chance of accusing me to be a shill) would probably offer a full refund and another free op if he gave someone the poor end result that the Hospital group have given to you.
 

mrdavies

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From what I've seen, farjo is the best UK hair transplant surgeon, some decent pics on the site but compared to the US/Canadian doctors I dont think it measures up. I would go (if I had the will) to the states. I really wish there were top docs in the UK, I often wonder why there isnt, maybe in the future, who knows?

I'm sure there are loads of crappy us surgeons too, thats why research is so important.
 

GeminiX

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Not sure if I agree that Farjo is the best UK surgeon, though the work I've seen of his is rather good, especially his hairlines that I've seen in the last year or so.

The only thing that put me off Farjo is I would have been unable to meet him prior to the day of surgery, and that is a deal breaker for me.

If I'm going to allow someone so repeatedly stab me in the head with a scalpel, I want to look them in the eyes before I hand over any money :)
 

s.a.f

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I did'nt want to travel either, and the result? - Several butcherings later forced to go to the U.S for repair work to try and hide what the incompetent UK amatuers had done.
This is'nt like buying a suit, you cant afford to get it wrong there are no second chances when wasted donor and scarring are involved.
My advice - if your not prepared to do it properly then leave it alone or you'll regret taking the easiest option.
 
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