Help Dealing With And Treating Hair Loss At 21

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I'm a very paranoid person, I recall from the age of 14 I became paranoid that I was going to lose my hair, I have very little confidence in myself, but one thing I've always liked about myself is my hair, and overtime I felt like I was thinning, but other assured me I was just paranoid, and it was fine, after all I was young.
Skip forward 7 years, and I've experienced pretty much hair loss, I've been to the doctor many times to try find out the cause, there is no history of baldness in my family, so they were certain it wasn't male pattern baldness, and that there was some other reason behind it. After many blood tests, doctors visits, there seems to be no cause, which obviously leads to the conclusion that it must be male pattern baldness.
I've only recently turned 21, and I have less hair than my father of 57 does.
I'm used to having long hair, and I guess for the past year or so, I fooled myself into thinking that it probably wasn't noticeable, I avoided examining my hair or anything, to keep up the illusion that everything was ok.
I'm now in my second year of university and I've recently been really struggling to cope, not just with the hair, but so many other things. I've been recommended by the head of my course, and my counsellor that I suspend my studies, and resume them next year, giving me time to get proper therapy to cope with things.
And it was just only a few days ago when I came to terms with the fact that yes, I am losing my hair, and I feel powerless about it, I've had my hair cut recently so it's not as long as it once was, but I quite honestly don't know how to go about treating hair loss, I've done quite a lot of research, into regaine, pills you can take, hair transplants, but there seems to always be drawbacks to them which makes me wants to avoid them, I've heard with regaine (or rogaine in the US), that first you lose a ton of hair, then it grows back, which would be incredibly noticeable with my longer hair, the pills seems to have a ton of side effects that to be honest, terrify me, and hair transplants seem incredibly risky.

I know that's quite a lot to read and process, but I am in need of helpful advice, what can I do?
 

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I'm a very paranoid person, I recall from the age of 14 I became paranoid that I was going to lose my hair, I have very little confidence in myself, but one thing I've always liked about myself is my hair, and overtime I felt like I was thinning, but other assured me I was just paranoid, and it was fine, after all I was young.
Skip forward 7 years, and I've experienced pretty much hair loss, I've been to the doctor many times to try find out the cause, there is no history of baldness in my family, so they were certain it wasn't male pattern baldness, and that there was some other reason behind it. After many blood tests, doctors visits, there seems to be no cause, which obviously leads to the conclusion that it must be male pattern baldness.
I've only recently turned 21, and I have less hair than my father of 57 does.
I'm used to having long hair, and I guess for the past year or so, I fooled myself into thinking that it probably wasn't noticeable, I avoided examining my hair or anything, to keep up the illusion that everything was ok.
I'm now in my second year of university and I've recently been really struggling to cope, not just with the hair, but so many other things. I've been recommended by the head of my course, and my counsellor that I suspend my studies, and resume them next year, giving me time to get proper therapy to cope with things.
And it was just only a few days ago when I came to terms with the fact that yes, I am losing my hair, and I feel powerless about it, I've had my hair cut recently so it's not as long as it once was, but I quite honestly don't know how to go about treating hair loss, I've done quite a lot of research, into regaine, pills you can take, hair transplants, but there seems to always be drawbacks to them which makes me wants to avoid them, I've heard with regaine (or rogaine in the US), that first you lose a ton of hair, then it grows back, which would be incredibly noticeable with my longer hair, the pills seems to have a ton of side effects that to be honest, terrify me, and hair transplants seem incredibly risky.

I know that's quite a lot to read and process, but I am in need of helpful advice, what can I do?

Are you losing hair in a male pattern baldness pattern? Some pics would be helpful for trying to assess your situation
 

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I bought this shampoo on desperation.

goo.gl/2GArfy

Didn't know what to use. My hair was falling like crazy and I started seeing some patches in my head exposing my scalp. I'm 29 and always had nice long hair. At my early 20's it started thinning and falling but just small amounts but 5 months ago it was too much. I started feeling depressed and seems that every product that I found contained lots of chemicals. I started using this shampoo on January 4th and I notice a difference the first time I used it.
What I can say about the product:

1- the amount of hair that I lose in the shower was half of what I used to. It makes me think that with that being less it is giving my other new hairs time to grow.
2- volume in my hair, even though the dry climate didn't help here.
3- my scalp felt less itchy

I will not ever buy a different shampoo and I recommend it to anyone that wants more, fuller, and healthier hair.

I really like the looks of this shampoo, I've been reading some of the reviews and I've seen people say it leaves their hair looking greasy, which for someone with long hair, isn't great. Do you know if it's ok to use another shampoo before or after it?
 

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Are you losing hair in a male pattern baldness pattern? Some pics would be helpful for trying to assess your situation
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How exactly you want to regrow hair without finasteride?

It wasn't possible till now.
 

PastaForMe

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You must use one shampoo don't use other shampoo
until this treatment shampoo period ends
I do like the sounds of it, but I'm struggling to find where I can buy it in the UK... do you know of any alternatives that can be found within the UK?

How exactly you want to regrow hair without finasteride?

It wasn't possible till now.
I have no idea how, that's why I'm here, I refuse to touch finasteride.
 

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I do like the sounds of it, but I'm struggling to find where I can buy it in the UK... do you know of any alternatives that can be found within the UK?


I have no idea how, that's why I'm here, I refuse to touch finasteride.

lol then shave it all

you cannot fight natural hairloss without DHT inhibition

see you in a year on slybaldguys.com :D
 

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i don't k


You can buy it from Amazon and you will receive for your door
This product is available in the Internet
In reality, I do not know
Xxxxxxxxx
I tried that, it won't let be ship it to the UK. :/
 
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At the very least I'd be using minoxidil and keto shampoo. This might buy you some time and temporary regrowth if you're a decent responder

But as c4l says, yeah, if you have male pattern baldness, you need dht inhibition if you're interested in long term success, and the go to option for that is finasteride

You need to weigh the risk reward if hair loss is affecting your quality of life as much as it sounds like. Finasteride has changed many people's lives for the better, but that's a decision you need to make
 

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At the very least I'd be using minoxidil and keto shampoo. This might buy you some time and temporary regrowth if you're a decent responder

But as c4l says, yeah, if you have male pattern baldness, you need dht inhibition if you're interested in long term success, and the go to option for that is finasteride

You need to weigh the risk reward if hair loss is affecting your quality of life as much as it sounds like. Finasteride has changed many people's lives for the better, but that's a decision you need to make
That's the thing, hair loss is affected my life in a pretty negative way, but even then, I don't think it's worth the risk to use finasteride...
How about hair transplants? It kinda sucks because I'd rather keep my own hair, because I like it, but I'd rather have some hair, than have none.
 

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That's the thing, hair loss is affected my life in a pretty negative way, but even then, I don't think it's worth the risk to use finasteride...
How about hair transplants? It kinda sucks because I'd rather keep my own hair, because I like it, but I'd rather have some hair, than have none.

Transplants are best if your loss is isolated to certain areas or you're already bald as f***. With your loss being diffusing all throughout...Idk, you can do some consultations but I'd be surprised if any ethical hair transplant surgeon considers you a good candidate at this time

This is my take on finasteride for someone who's quality of life is strongly being affected/sure to be affected by hair loss:

Finasteride=fairly minor risk, good chance of stabilization and/or improvement

No finasteride=99.99℅ guarantee of more baldness, lower self esteem, quality of life, etc
 

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But even if you won't use finasteride, even just minoxidil is better than nothing...You never know, you might be a great responder!

I'd be doing something though
 

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A few things:

None of the currently available treatments will restore your hair, improve it yes but a not restore. You may be one of the lucky ones that get 30% back but the chances are in the order of 10% or so.

I would not worry about minoxidil shedding too much, when I used it I mainly shed short weak hairs at the back of my head. I have diffuse thinning on the vertex/crown and the shedding was not noticeable at all.

Keto shampoos are overrated in my opinion. I use piroctone olamine based shampoos, which are just as good and way less harsher to your scalp. I recommend Neutrogena T/Gel Greasy which I use every day with no problems what so ever.

Peppermint oil is very good too, for various reasons. You can either mix it in with minoxidil or your shampoo, you will have to experiment with how much you can tolerate. Get the premium grade oils, rather than the cheaper ones as there is a difference.

If you want to use an anti-androgen, try Pantostin which you will have to order from Germany which has a mild anti-androgen that does not have any side effects.

I have a thread in the success stories, https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...-a-stemoxydine-alfatradiol-4-months-in.96625/ It's a bit old now and I'm currently experimenting with a slightly modified regime but the basis is the same.
 

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Peppermint oil is very good too, for various reasons. You can either mix it in with minoxidil or your shampoo, you will have to experiment with how much you can tolerate. Get the premium grade oils, rather than the cheaper ones as there is a difference.

I've actually just started using peppermint oil with my minoxidil. Can you give an example of what you consider a premium grade one? And what the difference would be?

This is the one I'm currently using: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PV15BPW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

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I've actually just started using peppermint oil with my minoxidil. Can you give an example of what you consider a premium grade one? And what the difference would be?

This is the one I'm currently using: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PV15BPW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The chemicals menthol (7–48%), menthone (20–46%), menthyl acetate (3–10%), menthofuran (1–17%) and 1,8-cineol (3–6%) (from wikipedia) differ depending on the source of the peppermint oil, age of leaves etc etc.

I have different experiences based on different sources, the cheaper ones have a contact cooling sensation that drops off quickly and more of a smell compared to the premium grade ones I have used that seem to build up the coolness as they penetrate the skin and last a lot longer with much less smell.

I have also used menthol crystals instead of peppermint oil and the cooling effect of those is similar to the cheaper peppermint oils. Of course without chemical analysis I cant be 100% sure, but it seems less menthol content is better. Unfortunately you cant tell from the labeling, but since it is cheap you can try a few different vendors until you find the best one.
 

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The chemicals menthol (7–48%), menthone (20–46%), menthyl acetate (3–10%), menthofuran (1–17%) and 1,8-cineol (3–6%) (from wikipedia) differ depending on the source of the peppermint oil, age of leaves etc etc.

I have different experiences based on different sources, the cheaper ones have a contact cooling sensation that drops off quickly and more of a smell compared to the premium grade ones I have used that seem to build up the coolness as they penetrate the skin and last a lot longer with much less smell.

I have also used menthol crystals instead of peppermint oil and the cooling effect of those is similar to the cheaper peppermint oils. Of course without chemical analysis I cant be 100% sure, but it seems less menthol content is better. Unfortunately you cant tell from the labeling, but since it is cheap you can try a few different vendors until you find the best one.

Can you link me to the one you feel you had the most success with?

Nice story. You got some pretty legit regrowth
 

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All we have is:
1) Finasteride
2) Minoxidil

If you are not willing to use either of the two options, then there is not much else for you to do but shave your head and accept living as a bald man. There is no secret potion or method to keep your hair that you are going to discover here.
 
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