Hi all,
UPDATE 06 September 2018
Just an update, I never ended up doing anything and continued with minoxidil 1-2x daily (more the 1x) and ended up getting lazy and have not used nizoral in over a year.
I have lost a whole lot of ground, but am now ready to hop on finasteride.
My routine will be
THE BIG THREE:
Finasteride 0.25mg daily (I have gone for microdose, studies show this is almost as effective as the 1mg dose)
Minoxidil Topical Foam 5%.(Regaine)
Nizoral shampoo EOD
Regenepure NT EOD (possibly could use another everyday shampoo but unsure - pura seems to be popular?)
VITAMINS:
Omega 3 Fish oil (2000mg 2xdaily)
Biotin (5000mcg daily)
Zinc (50mg daily-night)
B-12 complex - b6 100mcg, b12 100mcg(1 a day)
Is there anything I am missing or should replace/add in?
Also when is the best time in the day to take the Finasteride pill?
I will post another topic next week when all my supplements arrive and take some basliene pics and keep a log with updates.
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Original Post
I’ve finally decided I need to give it my best shot with a new hair prevention/growth routine.
A little background about me and my hairloss:
• 24 years old (25 in a few months).
• Live in New Zealand
• Fit and active lifestyle
• Noticed hair thinning around 20-21
• I believe I am a diffuse thinner (crown + frontal)
• Regime from 2014 to current (Regaine Minoxidil 2x daily and Nizoral 2% keto shampoo, loose routine but normally 2x a week)
Please see attached picture for my hair loss progression over the three years (Jan 2014 to Jan 2017).
I’ve come to realise that Minoxidil and a keto shampoo is not enough, and a DHT blocker really needs to be added eg Finasteride or RU58841.
I am choosing to go with Finasteride, as I live in New Zealand it would probably struggle to import RU, and + it has not been studied for a long time so who knows the potential sides. I have read numerous horrible things about finasteride, and I’d estimate at least 20% have sides and not the 2% figure which floats around. My reason for still going ahead is I don’t want to think, ‘oh what if I could have been the lucky few with finasteride results’. If I do develop sides, I’d hope they are not permanent manage to recover in a few weeks/months (seems to be very rare that people still have sides even when off finasteride).
So I’ve got a ‘few’ questions for you guys, and would greatly appreciate any advice/input/see if I’m missing anything etc.
1) Finasteride dose – The 1mg pill is available here and I think I’ll start with a low dose (Pill cutter + 10ml amber bottle to store in?) and bump it up, does this look right? 0.25mg (2x a week for Week 1 and Week 2), 0.25mg EOD (Week 3-4), 0.25mg ED Week 5+, and continue on this forever, maybe even try 0.5mg ED in the future
2) Finasteride supps – Anything that helps alleviate/avoid finasteride sides, I am thinking about taking L-Citrulline (1tbs ed), Zinc (50mg ed), Grapeseed extract (400mg daily), L-Arigine(1000mg ed)
3) Blood tests – I will be going to the Doctor and getting a baseline of bloods done (Testosterone (total, free and bioavailable), Androstenedione, DHT, Adiol-G, Estradiol (E2), LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, TSH, Iron, Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA). Anything else worth getting tested?
4) Shampoos – Stick to Nizoral 2% and use EOD or switch to another ket shampoo such as regenepure? What shampoo to use in off ket days?
5) Pills – Is there just a single pill I can take which contains all the essential hairloss vitamins? I am currently taking Opti-men by Optimum nutrition as a multi. Biotin (3000mcg ed), Niacin (unsure dose), Collagen (3g ed for clear skin from minoxidil etc), Vit C, Vit B complex, Vit D, ZMA (bed time), and Fish oil omega3s. Anything I’m missing or should remove?
6) Oils – Not going to bother, unless there is any really worth using at night etc?
7) Minoxidil – Stick to regaine or switch to Lipogain big 3?
8) Retin A – Use with minoxidil to increase absorption?
9) Stemoxydine 5% – Useful to add in? Apply at night after few hours of minoxidil? I see Stemox - Loreal Professional Serioxyl is priced well.
10) Grey hairs – Anything I can do for this? I’ve only come across vitamin b6/b12 helping.
11) Concealers – I will try Toppik or DerMatch, unless there’s something better out there? I don’t like the idea of fibres falling out onto clothes/pillows and leaving a mess though.
12) Dermrolling – With 1.5mm needles, but I don’t see much point as I’m a diffuse thinner, so this would possibly pull a lot of my hair out as I’d need to do it all over?
Future plans/thoughts
1) Hair Transplant - I would most likely be able to get one down the line, in 2-3 years (technology should be a bit better by then + it is cheaper in other countries eg India, Turkey etc).
2) Hair system - Hassle of cleaning it ed/eod and reapplying, + very costly at the moment here in NZ from a clinic eg advanced hair studio.
3) Cures – Hisotgen, Replicel, Brotzu, any others? (All 2-3years away I believe, and who knows if they will truly work).
Thanks for taking the time to read this and if you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask.
I’m right here with you guys on the hairloss battlefield!
Cheers
UPDATE 06 September 2018
Just an update, I never ended up doing anything and continued with minoxidil 1-2x daily (more the 1x) and ended up getting lazy and have not used nizoral in over a year.
I have lost a whole lot of ground, but am now ready to hop on finasteride.
My routine will be
THE BIG THREE:
Finasteride 0.25mg daily (I have gone for microdose, studies show this is almost as effective as the 1mg dose)
Minoxidil Topical Foam 5%.(Regaine)
Nizoral shampoo EOD
Regenepure NT EOD (possibly could use another everyday shampoo but unsure - pura seems to be popular?)
VITAMINS:
Omega 3 Fish oil (2000mg 2xdaily)
Biotin (5000mcg daily)
Zinc (50mg daily-night)
B-12 complex - b6 100mcg, b12 100mcg(1 a day)
Is there anything I am missing or should replace/add in?
Also when is the best time in the day to take the Finasteride pill?
I will post another topic next week when all my supplements arrive and take some basliene pics and keep a log with updates.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original Post
I’ve finally decided I need to give it my best shot with a new hair prevention/growth routine.
A little background about me and my hairloss:
• 24 years old (25 in a few months).
• Live in New Zealand
• Fit and active lifestyle
• Noticed hair thinning around 20-21
• I believe I am a diffuse thinner (crown + frontal)
• Regime from 2014 to current (Regaine Minoxidil 2x daily and Nizoral 2% keto shampoo, loose routine but normally 2x a week)
Please see attached picture for my hair loss progression over the three years (Jan 2014 to Jan 2017).
I’ve come to realise that Minoxidil and a keto shampoo is not enough, and a DHT blocker really needs to be added eg Finasteride or RU58841.
I am choosing to go with Finasteride, as I live in New Zealand it would probably struggle to import RU, and + it has not been studied for a long time so who knows the potential sides. I have read numerous horrible things about finasteride, and I’d estimate at least 20% have sides and not the 2% figure which floats around. My reason for still going ahead is I don’t want to think, ‘oh what if I could have been the lucky few with finasteride results’. If I do develop sides, I’d hope they are not permanent manage to recover in a few weeks/months (seems to be very rare that people still have sides even when off finasteride).
So I’ve got a ‘few’ questions for you guys, and would greatly appreciate any advice/input/see if I’m missing anything etc.
1) Finasteride dose – The 1mg pill is available here and I think I’ll start with a low dose (Pill cutter + 10ml amber bottle to store in?) and bump it up, does this look right? 0.25mg (2x a week for Week 1 and Week 2), 0.25mg EOD (Week 3-4), 0.25mg ED Week 5+, and continue on this forever, maybe even try 0.5mg ED in the future
2) Finasteride supps – Anything that helps alleviate/avoid finasteride sides, I am thinking about taking L-Citrulline (1tbs ed), Zinc (50mg ed), Grapeseed extract (400mg daily), L-Arigine(1000mg ed)
3) Blood tests – I will be going to the Doctor and getting a baseline of bloods done (Testosterone (total, free and bioavailable), Androstenedione, DHT, Adiol-G, Estradiol (E2), LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, TSH, Iron, Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA). Anything else worth getting tested?
4) Shampoos – Stick to Nizoral 2% and use EOD or switch to another ket shampoo such as regenepure? What shampoo to use in off ket days?
5) Pills – Is there just a single pill I can take which contains all the essential hairloss vitamins? I am currently taking Opti-men by Optimum nutrition as a multi. Biotin (3000mcg ed), Niacin (unsure dose), Collagen (3g ed for clear skin from minoxidil etc), Vit C, Vit B complex, Vit D, ZMA (bed time), and Fish oil omega3s. Anything I’m missing or should remove?
6) Oils – Not going to bother, unless there is any really worth using at night etc?
7) Minoxidil – Stick to regaine or switch to Lipogain big 3?
8) Retin A – Use with minoxidil to increase absorption?
9) Stemoxydine 5% – Useful to add in? Apply at night after few hours of minoxidil? I see Stemox - Loreal Professional Serioxyl is priced well.
10) Grey hairs – Anything I can do for this? I’ve only come across vitamin b6/b12 helping.
11) Concealers – I will try Toppik or DerMatch, unless there’s something better out there? I don’t like the idea of fibres falling out onto clothes/pillows and leaving a mess though.
12) Dermrolling – With 1.5mm needles, but I don’t see much point as I’m a diffuse thinner, so this would possibly pull a lot of my hair out as I’d need to do it all over?
Future plans/thoughts
1) Hair Transplant - I would most likely be able to get one down the line, in 2-3 years (technology should be a bit better by then + it is cheaper in other countries eg India, Turkey etc).
2) Hair system - Hassle of cleaning it ed/eod and reapplying, + very costly at the moment here in NZ from a clinic eg advanced hair studio.
3) Cures – Hisotgen, Replicel, Brotzu, any others? (All 2-3years away I believe, and who knows if they will truly work).
Thanks for taking the time to read this and if you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask.
I’m right here with you guys on the hairloss battlefield!
Cheers
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