Hairline growth late in the game, implications?

[Deaner]

After 19 months of Propecia use, my hairline is regrowing noticably, even if slowly. I'm wondering if, since this regrowth comes this late in the game, does it mean it will be short lived and useless, or does it mean Propecia's effectiveness will continue for quite an extended period of time. It just seems weird that not only am I maintaining at such a late stage, but I'm still regrowing one of the toughest regions.

Any insight is appreciated.

 

[StoptheMadness]

are you sure that your hairline is regrowing? I'd take a second look. I've been on Propecia for almost 3 years now and it has done everything I could have asked it to, realistically. But temples and hairlines are not its thing, not by a long shot. It's entirely possible that Propecia helps maintain hairline, but regrow, not so much. Depending on how old you are, and how long you have been on Propecia, there will come a time when your hairline will crater, bit by stinking bit, and you will know that your hairline cannot ultimately be saved by Propecia...I try to only tell it as i see it.

 

[Z]

Your hairline and temples are generally the last thing to respond to the finasteride, if they do at all.

So, fingers-crossed it could be a nice little spurt of regrowth that is here to stay.

 

[Britannia]

are you sure that your hairline is regrowing? I'd take a second look. I've been on Propecia for almost 3 years now and it has done everything I could have asked it to, realistically. But temples and hairlines are not its thing, not by a long shot.

This is incorrect. The FDA trials focused on the vertex regions of the head and not the frontal or tempal areas. This meant Merck had no conclusive evidence that Propecia worked in the frontal and tempal areas BUT there is certainely no evidence to suggest it doesnt work. I recently posted a study which showed Finasteride to be very effective in Frontal hairloss - did you read it? Depending on how far your male pattern baldness has progressed before Propecia is started will dictate which areas will experience regrowth first. I am personally a NW2/NW3 and have vellus regrowth on both temples after 3 months use of Propecia.
Deaner, having a response of the hairline so late in the Propecia game is probably due to the fact this area has been suffering the adverse effects of DHT for the longest. Remember there have been cases on this forum of people not having any results until 24 months treatment. I highly doubt these results will be short lived, I expect regrowth will tail off very slowly and maintainence of the hairline should continue as long as Propecia is continued. Do you use Nizoral shampoo?

 

[Deaner]

Thanks for the responses everyone, gotta hand it to ya Brittania, your posts ARE fairly useful. I'm not using Nizoral right now, I was in the beginning, but it's too costly, and leaves my hair feeling fried, so I steer clear now.

 

[Axon]

I did not see "regrowth" on the hairline at all until around month 11 of treatment.

 

[Deaner]

Even if it doesn't grow back entirely I figure it's a good sign either way, because I'm doing better than maintaining, so I can at least count on my current hair"line" for a while longer.

 

[jumpedthegun]

Brittania is correct.

finasteride has helped my hairline. I have lots of little hairs popping up. They started on the temple, and started working their way towards my widows peak. the ones on my temple are thin, but about a centimer long now. the ones near my peak are still just sprouting.

Granted, I got on finasteride at the first sign of recession.

 

[wangho75]

Granted, I got on finasteride at the first sign of recession.

well GRANTED, but I've been steadily losing hair for 12 years and Im 30 now. I've been on Propecia for 9 months and minoxidil for 2 mos. This combo is impressing the hell out of me with its effectiveness on the hairline. One thing I want to comment on is, you know the hair on the side of the head right above the ears? Know how it kind of pushes forward to the face like say Brad Pitt's hair does?

Well, for as long as I can remember, my hair in this area was always pretty much straight up to the hairline without that 'pointy' angle. This area has improved amazingly so far. Its no longer straight up and down, but looks just like Brad Pitt's, but still thinner at the moment, but there are plenty of dark hairs in the area to give the outline and impression, with TONS of vellus in this area.

On up around the hairline, things have improved alot as well. Hairline has definitely strengthened and hairs are darker and thicker. There is about a 1 and a half inch patch of very thick centimeter long vellus that is now light brown. I can honestly say that I also cannot remember having hair in this area AT ALL on my temples.

I have always had a triangular hairline that was receded on sides, but strong in the very front, by nature. It was always just my natural hairline. I'm not just regaining hair on my temples I recently lost, but I am cheating nature with a more rounded hairline that sits lower on my forehead. Now, a good portion of this may be vellus, but it is very thick and brown vellus. Im confident it'll turn terminal down the line. Im extremely pleased with what's going on in this area.

It's funny that im getting tons of response on the hairline and temples and less results on the crown. It was my worst area and very thin. Maybe this iswhy im not noticing an amazing response in this area since it was SO thin and was my main area of concern. However, it's probablly improving at the same rate as it has definitley thickened up and looks a good bit better.

Im also shedding virtually NO hairs at all.

This is just a reminder that yes! Propecia and minoxodil CAN work wonders on the hairline AND it doesn't matter if the hair was lost recently, 12 years ago, and in my case, gaining hair on my head in places that I have NEVER had. Just amazing..

 

[techprof]

wang,
there is a difference in your case. though you having losing your hair for 12 years, you were at the worst a NW2 before you started your treatments.
If you had got NW5 or NW6 in 12 years, things would have been different.
Though people loosely use the word starting the treatments early, Norwood scale plays an important role in addition to the time you have been losing your hairs. For all you know you might be a NW2 for life even if you didn't get on to treatments as you were losing hairs very slow.

 

[Britannia]

Thanks for the responses everyone, gotta hand it to ya Brittania, your posts ARE fairly useful. I'm not using Nizoral right now, I was in the beginning, but it's too costly, and leaves my hair feeling fried, so I steer clear now.

Nizoral used to do that to my hair too. Thats why I started using AC revitalise conditioner after each use. Stopped the problem dead in its tracks. Of course this adds expense to your regeime so my not be a good idea for you. Could try using a cheap moisturising conditioner after Nizoral use? I use about 1 bottle of Nizoral every 2 months, so it works out at about £3 ($5) a month. Maybe the stuffs cheaper in the UK than the US.

 

[wangho75]

wang,
there is a difference in your case. though you having losing your hair for 12 years, you were at the worst a NW2 before you started your treatments.
If you had got NW5 or NW6 in 12 years, things would have been different.
Though people loosely use the word starting the treatments early, Norwood scale plays an important role in addition to the time you have been losing your hairs. For all you know you might be a NW2 for life even if you didn't get on to treatments as you were losing hairs very slow.

how do you know what my hair looks like and that I wass a Norwood 2? My hair was very, very thin and receded very deeply at the temples. Im not like one of these 18 year old guys that post their pictures of their seemingly perfect hairlines like Jeffss or somebody. Is easily being able to see all through the scalp a Norwood 2? I dont know about that one.

The important thing to remember though, is that I have gained hair in places on my head and temples that I have never had any hair to begin with.

 

[techprof]

my bad wang.
I thought you said you were a NW2 in some of your previous posts. If you had recovered from NW3 or more to NW1 then that is really awesome. you are very good responder then.

 

[Deaner]

Skeptical, I love how you make me sound like an advertisement for Merck. Honestly, go ahead and be skeptical, but you'll be able to spot the two of us in a crowd. I'll be the one with hair.

 

[Brasileirao]

What up fellas!!!

Man, has it been a while or what?!?!?!!?

2 years on Propecia; yup 2 freaking years.......

I can't believe that I've been taking those little brow/red pills for so long. So far so good, hair isn't 100%, but its slowed down the loss big time.

Any who, I hope everyone is doing well! Deaner, keep up the fight I aslo believe that the effects can come up late in the game. (I experienced it myself)

OUT!
Tohhhhknee!

 

[Britannia]

Skeptical, I love how you make me sound like an advertisement for Merck. Honestly, go ahead and be skeptical, but you'll be able to spot the two of us in a crowd. I'll be the one with hair.

Stood next to Britannia who also has hair (and doesnt have breasts).

 

[Deaner]

Hey, this just in, turns out Skeptical's an a**h** who trolls hairloss boards. Good for you buddy!

 

[powersam]

so you consider it blind faith to use treatments backed by scientific research?

 

[hairwegoagain]

Skepti - no miracles, no religion, no holy trinity.

The treatments work quite well for some people and for others they don't...just like aspirin may stop my headache but might not do sh*t for you.

The great news for you is that using them is not a requirement of living on this Earth. Problem solved!

PS: Why is your pussy hurting so much over this?

Ha. I guess hairloss treatments are just like any other religion now: blindly believe in miracles, don't ask awkward questions for only the faithful will be saved, worship that holy trinity of treatments, keep pumping in your pay, and above all, PRAY.

 

[Britannia]

You guys seem to be the over-sensitive ones. I'm just pointing out that it's a bit silly the way it's taken as a given that you can get substancial regrowth on the hairline despite their being an almost complete void of non-anecdotal evidence to support that belief.

Rubbish. There is plenty of evidence showing that finasteride is effective in frontal areas. I posted a studied conducted by Cipla not so long ago. Have you read this? No didnt think so, you are so content in your own bubble of ignorance that all sense of reason and logic seems lost on you.