There's always the possibility you can receive a bad system. However, I think it's likely an understandable learning curve here. A bad system would either have poor ventilation/ bald areas or bad application of poly skim coat/ or poor knotting...resulting in excessive shedding. Other than that there's not much to mess up. Of course there is always the possibility of extremely damaged hair; however, in my experience that's pretty much the norm With Indian hair being jet black. They acid wash and strip all color including the cuticle in order to reapply color.
If you hop in the shower and rub shampoo around, like bio hair, you will absolutely tangle it. It's best to comb the hair, on top forward.... and down around the perimeter...wet it... add shampoo in the direction it's combed, then comb in various directions to distribute shampoo or conditioner. Very wide tooth comb of course.
Also, jumping in the shower with styled hair and allowing water to beat down with pressure, will encourage tangles as well. It's always best to comb everything out and control which directions it goes.
This is the norm from my experience with multiple vendors. However, she may be correct. Virgin European hair very well may not have this problem. The route cause is probably from the severely over processed cuticle-less indian hair that's the used on most units. With time we learn to work around/with it.
I would like to try European hair; however, Lavivid only offers it in a thicker skin, not .03 Perhaps, I will, when stock is more readily available from another vendor in .03
My understanding, at this time, is that .03 polys are being supplied at .04 to .05, as new employees are perfecting their craft.
Man, thank u, such great info and advice, as always you are a wealth of knowledge brother and I appreciate you sharing all that with me! Me being a guy who knows very very little, your experience and knowledge is priceless!
I'm honestly not sure if stylist is correct about hair quality being bad. I'm leaning towards the combo of new hair characteristics (like u described) plus mostly my MANY rookie mistakes. I didnt brush hair much in fear I would cause shedding, used alot of leave in Conditioner and styled with my hand flattening hair, wore hat to work out in at gym and continued putting water on hair and flattening it with hand....then finally washed it and had tangling. It's like I washed tangled styled hair. I think I caused all or most of that.
Now I'm brushing (deep from base) thoroughly regularly and keeping all the hair straight and making sure in doesnt get matted up.
I'm gonna see if being more diligent with all that helps, and I'll absolutely follow your washing advice too, and hopefully that'll solve the problem. Thanks again man!
Thanks for reporting back,
@Jake1979.
From my experience, you seldom receive a piece with "bad," "damaged" hair. The hair in these pieces starts off pretty dead and dry, probably coated with silicone/serum, and it will twist up in the shower the way
@TooBad said. You just can't be rough with toupee hair.
That said, I wouldn't rule out adhesive in the hair just because a hairstylist said so. For much of the Pandemic, I wore a French Lace piece attached by Got2B for daily use. I didn't wear it every day but the unit lasted a year or two, until I introduced adhesive into the picture.
I did a one-layer Ghosbond application, and the lace held perfectly. Everything was neatly executed, or seemingly so.
I removed the piece Walker's Lace Release a few days later.
As Lace Release is oily, I needed to now wash the piece. As soon as I did - and it was brushed out - some oily adhesive sludge took over the piece and immediately ruined it. Dreadlocks everywhere, immediately.
Hey man, thanks also for your info and experience and advice ! I really appreciate tips and knowledge from guys like u who have been through this thing for a while and learned from mistakes and successes!
Yea man, you're right, stylist could be mistaken, adhesive may have played a role. And it's good to know that new hair coating can also play a factor, I didnt know that until after reading u and TooBad's recent posts.
I just really think I did everything wrong and created the perfect recipe for tangling. I'm trying to remedy that following yalls tips and advice, and I'm making a much bigger effort to brush thoroughly from base to prevent knots.
Stylist also said maybe dont wear cap over head to gym to be safe...idk, maybe I'll leave hat in car when working out.
I just hate to blame system provider, especially since it may very well be all my own fault and I really like the hair and lace base and it's been great so far minus the tangling. The stylist may have just been blaming the hair quality to avoid blaming me, maybe she was afraid to offend me and lose my business, idk.
I'm pretty amazed at how cool and comfortable the unit feels, honestly like nothing is on my head. Hopefully it's no more issues bc I'd like to keep using them and like the lace and price is ok.
That's wild about how glue ruined your system that time. Man, that's a rough lesson, but I appreciate usharing that, I'd like to avoid that if possible. I guess that's pretty much worse case scenario with systems.
