***Going from Propecia to Dutasteride?..

[ahmeda]

Hey peeps,

I have been on the big 3 for 5.5 years (Propecia, Regaine, nizoral) The Past few months Iv added the laser comb, I thought I noticed some growth with the laser but maybe that's my mind playing tricks.... or maybe I should give it more time.

I use Nanogen which allows me to style my hair.

Anyways, I'm a diffused thinner, so screwed for a hair transplant at this moment.

Hair line is perfectly fine.

I Believe the Big 3 has helped slow down my hair loss but now I think its time for the big gun.... dutasteride.

I was advised by Zering Medical in the UK that I'm still good for medical Therapy and that I should go to dutasteride.

After Doing some research, I think its the best option.

pharmacydirectgb sell Avodart 0.5 30 caps for £25 a month.

I'm thinking of taking it every other day, which can get me a 2 month supply.

Attached at pics of my hair.


the last picture is just my hair positioned in a way to cover up the gaps

 

[ahmeda]

The main reason for wanting to switch is because I believe Propecia is becoming less effective

 

[ripple-effect]

Dutas is not your best option. Please do more research on the side effects. I do not believe you are a diffuse thinner. It looks to me like you have female pattern hair loss where it begins in the middle and spreads outward.

My recommendation is to look into topical DHT inhibitors.

 

[ahmeda]

Dutas is not your best option. Please do more research on the side effects. I do not believe you are a diffuse thinner. It looks to me like you have female pattern hair loss where it begins in the middle and spreads outward.

My recommendation is to look into topical DHT inhibitors.

Thanks for the reply,

ye my hair loss is weird. I looked into the side effects and I know its a bit of a dice roll. The fact that i'v been on Propecia for a long time, I was told that my chances of success could be better with dutasteride.

anyways....

Do you know of any topical DHT inhibitors?

 

[ripple-effect]

check out this post:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68078

 

[DoctorHouse]

My hair loss pattern is very similar to yours but not as bad. How old are you? Dutasteride could have more serious side effects including permanently making you sterile and not be able to have children. I have found PRP and Revivogen definitely help with our type of pattern loss. Hopefully you had your thyroid checked too as your pattern loss can indicate a thyorid issue too. In desperation, I too have thought about using dutasteride because I have not had any life altering side effects from Propecia, but I don't want to use a drug that has more potential permanent side effects than the one I am already using. The good thing is you can conceal your loss very easily. You can get an hair transplant with your loss. I have seen many successful cases with your type of loss.

 

[ahmeda]

My hair loss pattern is very similar to yours but not as bad. How old are you? Dutasteride could have more serious side effects including permanently making you sterile and not be able to have children. I have found PRP and Revivogen definitely help with our type of pattern loss. Hopefully you had your thyroid checked too as your pattern loss can indicate a thyorid issue too. In desperation, I too have thought about using dutasteride because I have not had any life altering side effects from Propecia, but I don't want to use a drug that has more potential permanent side effects than the one I am already using. The good thing is you can conceal your loss very easily. You can get an hair transplant with your loss. I have seen many successful cases with your type of loss.

thanks for the reply

* firstly, are you sure dutasteride has permanent side effects, any evidence of this? as I never heard about this before and I did a lot of research into dutasteride

* I will look into Revivogen, sounds promising but what is PRP?

* do you have links of people who had hair transplant with my hair loss as that would be promising.

 

[ahmeda]

any one got any other advice. I would really appreciate it

 

[ahmeda]

anyone.... please?

 

[WillNotLetItHappen]

http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/medical ... nasteride/

Hi,
thought about raising your dose of Propecia?
Just a thought. On the above site they write about 1/2 a pill of Proscar.
Regards

 

[ahmeda]

http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/medical-treatment/medications/propecia-finasteride/

Hi,
thought about raising your dose of Propecia?
Just a thought. On the above site they write about 1/2 a pill of Proscar.
Regards

hey, thats a good idea.

where can I get proscar from in the UK, as propecia cost some much money

what about if i went you dutasteride 0.5 + sprio + Revivogen?

cheers!

 

[ahmeda]

hmmm ok now im confused.


Revivogen?

S5 Cream?

Foligain?


Which one is the best?....

 

[WillNotLetItHappen]

hey, thats a good idea.

where can I get proscar from in the UK, as propecia cost some much money

what about if i went you dutasteride 0.5 + sprio + Revivogen?

cheers!

Hi. Bernstein write about generic Proscar which they divide in two. Think you can find this on any generics page you trust. I'm thinking this is the active ingredient your body is used to. Maybe raising the dose will do the job like Bernstein suggested. At least he's a doctor and we are not...

I understand your impatience with this. I'm not sure however if changing your complete regime around is the way to go. Plus I'm not sure if starting with all three at once is the way to go. It's always easier to add something than taking it away. dutasteride is some powerful stuff, what if it's enough? Just thinking.
Hope this helps.

 

[Life_sucks]

My recommendation is to look into topical DHT inhibitors.

I just don't hear much about Azelaic Acid. How potent/effective is it.

I always wondered if Azelaic Acid with minoxidil is better why didn't Rogaine add it? They could've started with like 2% Azelaic Acid.

 

[ripple-effect]

[quote="ripple-effect":3v27uodk]My recommendation is to look into topical DHT inhibitors.

I just don't hear much about Azelaic Acid. How potent/effective is it.

I always wondered if Azelaic Acid with minoxidil is better why didn't Rogaine add it? They could've started with like 2% Azelaic Acid.[/quote:3v27uodk]

Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't work.

Why not also ask why they didn't add Finasteride to the formula? That is FDA approved isn't it? I highly doubt Rogaine would want to add anything when they are successful as it is. Are you even using Rogaine for your hair loss? If not, then why does it matter so much to you what they do with their formula?

There are formulas you can buy online that include Azelaic acid such as Perfect Image Solutions which has alot of reviews and is a hot selling product on amazon:

Perfect Image Solutions 15% & Azelaic Acid 5%

 

[Life_sucks]

^ I am on the verge of committing myself to Rogaine, just doing my last phase research and trying to figure out the topical options.

I know Rogaine is successful but if Azelaic acid is effective, doesn't it make sense for Rogaine to add it? OR maybe it's not as effective as some think.

(Or Rogaine doesn't want to spend money for research/clinical trials/etc., but it doesn't make sense for them to be just passive) Also, 5% has been out for more than 4 years, you'd think they'll have something int he horizon or other products like Perfect Image will take a bite out of their sales)

I don't know...I'm a noob at this :dunno:

 

[ripple-effect]

^ I am on the verge of committing myself to Rogaine, just doing my last phase research and trying to figure out the topical options.

I know Rogaine is successful but if Azelaic acid is effective, doesn't it make sense for Rogaine to add it? OR maybe it's not as effective as some think.

(Or Rogaine doesn't want to spend money for research/clinical trials/etc., but it doesn't make sense for them to be just passive) Also, 5% has been out for more than 4 years, you'd think they'll have something int he horizon or other products like Perfect Image will take a bite out of their sales)

I don't know...I'm a noob at this :dunno:

Perfect Image is already taking a good bite out of their sales. People are catching on that Rogaine does not stop the cause of hair loss. If you look at their website Rogaine doesn't even admit this. Why would they? It would hurt their sales... It's all about money in the end. This is also why if you look at the amazon best seller's list for minoxidil you will see Perfect Image Solution is closely behind Rogaine. I believe the only reason Rogaine is still #1 is just because it has a bigger brand name.

Amazon Best Sellers List For Minoxidil
Sort it by BestSelling

 

[ahmeda]

hey guys, I Just added revivogen to my regime now.

Currently, 1mg propecia, %5 regaine foam, nizoral, Laser Comb, Revivogen.


I'm Thinking, in 1 month I am going to add s5 cream and then 2 months, replace Propecia with dutasteride.


So I will then be on 0.5 dutasteride, Regaine Foam, nizoral, Revivogen, Rev S&C, s5

I am looking at dropping the laser comb.


What you think?

 

[Life_sucks]

Hey Ahmed,

My hair loss is kinda like yours, well, yours seems a little worst..lol sorry.

I too have never heard of 'permanent side effects' from Dutasteride. Side effects will be gone once 'Dutasteride' is out of the system (Dutasteride takes longer to leave system than Propecia).

I too made the transition from Propecia to Dutasteride. I did a lot of research like a nerd. Bottom line is Propecia blocks 1 DHT and Dutasteride blocks 2. It's simple math. I didn't have any side effects from Propecia so I was somewhat comfortable making the transition. I'm just surprised Avodart hasn't gotten fda approval for hair loss yet...maybe there is a business reason behind it.

Anyways, I finally got a dermatologist (cause some wouldn't) prescribe me Avodart. Started 3 times a week, then twice and once. I shoudn't have done that but I think I was just trying to see maybe once a week might be sufficient.

Anyways, I'm going to get back to 3 times a week. No more and no less.

Also, Look into Regenepure DR shampoo. It has Ketoconazole. But upto you cause shampoos are just small addition.

Thought I'd share my story.

What is the dosage you are planning to take?

 

[Life_sucks]

Perfect Image is already taking a good bite out of their sales. People are catching on that Rogaine does not stop the cause of hair loss. If you look at their website Rogaine doesn't even admit this. Why would they? It would hurt their sales... It's all about money in the end. This is also why if you look at the amazon best seller's list for minoxidil you will see Perfect Image Solution is closely behind Rogaine. I believe the only reason Rogaine is still #1 is just because it has a bigger brand name.

Amazon Best Sellers List For Minoxidil
Sort it by BestSelling

Perfect Image maybe be taking a very, very, small bite. Rogaine has a monopoly and are physically available in practically every store. Heck I even saw Rogaine in a gas station.

I just think Rogaine would've jumped on something like Azelaic Acid if it saw even minor improvements, that would make a perfect marketing/business plan for new product with minor upgrade. To be honest, Rogaine really can't do much with minoxidil now, they have decided that 5% is max. (and it's been years since 5% came out). So where do they go from here? They have to go somewhere and yet they still chose not to get involved with Azelaic Acid. (that speaks volumes)

And with the mixture of Minoxidil and Azelaic Acid in Perfect Image, who knows, maybe Minoxidil is doing all the work and Azelaic Acid is getting some undeserved credit for it.

Also, it seems too convenient and lazy to have 5%, 10%, and 15% minoxidil. I mean, they just incremented by 5 as if it's a joke. Yet Rogaine went through the trouble of getting an FDA approval just to increase minoxidil by 2%.

But I am somewhat disappointed that Rogaine doesn't seen to have anything in the pipeline, considering how much money they made.

Sorry for long post.