Going Bald In Less Than A Year, Need Advice

[Michael1986]

LMAO, THE ASHTON KUTCHER STORY AGAIN HAHAHHAHA, UN f*****g BELIEVABLE.

And no, he was not on dutasteride when he had the children, his doctor advised him to stop taking it with 6 months before and after he was done with the kid making he never started again, he mentioned all of it on a recent podcast... Besides the fact that your anecdotal experience means close to nothing in the grand scheme of things. But congrats anyways, the fact that the child was not affected by it matters the most and that's what is important in the end...

Sorry I must be mistaken about Ashton Kutcher. But I think that my own case should at least be seen as being of some value and reassurance for others. My child is a healthy little boy who is now four. As I mentioned, there was that study done that showed that using a 5AR inhibitor is associated with mild decreases in semen parameters, so I realize there is a mild risk to fertility.

 

[TomRiddle]

Sorry I must be mistaken about Ashton Kutcher. But I think that my own case should at least be seen as being of some value and reassurance for others. My child is a healthy little boy who is now four. As I mentioned, there was that study done that showed that using a 5AR inhibitor is associated with mild decreases in semen parameters, so I realize there is a mild risk to fertility.

There were a couple of more that show contradictory data but yeah, the possibility seems low from the data we have available, but i think we would need more truthful and interest lacking studies on the subject. From my personal research it seems that the risk gets higher with prolonged use but it might depend on other external or individual factors of own individual with his experiences, medical histories, etc..

But as i said, good that your boy is good and healthy, it's what matters the most in the end, with you healthy also of course...

 

[bluecyclone]

For the record Inwas down to start Propecia when I started losing hair. I had three top dermatologists/hair specialists in Chicago tell me it was a Telogen Effluvium and advised no Propecia. A year later as things got worse the advises minoxidil for the Telogen Effluvium. Feinberg at UIC was adamant that it was a bad idea to use Propecia and have kids.

I fucked up. I wanted to believe it was a Telogen Effluvium or thyroid related as it came out of nowhere. I did take Propecia and did experience sides before going with topical as directed by a derm. Needless to say nothing has worked and I still shed a ton of hair daily and I’m diffusing everywhere. Not looking for a miracle or to even regrow. Fine being a little thinner with some recession at my age. But the change from baseline in under 3 years with this much f*****g effort is f*****g miserable.

right now I’m throw everything at it and it’s only getting worse: Propecia oral, Oral Minoxidil 10mg, topical Dutasteride, RU... it’s a ducking mess and yes trying to fight hairloss has ruined my life more than losing hair ever could have.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

For the record Inwas down to start Propecia when I started losing hair. I had three top dermatologists/hair specialists in Chicago tell me it was a Telogen Effluvium and advised no Propecia. A year later as things got worse the advises minoxidil for the Telogen Effluvium. Feinberg at UIC was adamant that it was a bad idea to use Propecia and have kids.

I fucked up. I wanted to believe it was a Telogen Effluvium or thyroid related as it came out of nowhere. I did take Propecia and did experience sides before going with topical as directed by a derm. Needless to say nothing has worked and I still shed a ton of hair daily and I’m diffusing everywhere. Not looking for a miracle or to even regrow. Fine being a little thinner with some recession at my age. But the change from baseline in under 3 years with this much f*****g effort is f*****g miserable.

right now I’m throw everything at it and it’s only getting worse: Propecia oral, Oral Minoxidil 10mg, topical Dutasteride, RU... it’s a ducking mess and yes trying to fight hairloss has ruined my life more than losing hair ever could have.

I feel you dude. Yet nobody on here will solve your problem... nobody has the answer. It is what it is.

 

[TomRiddle]

For the record Inwas down to start Propecia when I started losing hair. I had three top dermatologists/hair specialists in Chicago tell me it was a Telogen Effluvium and advised no Propecia. A year later as things got worse the advises minoxidil for the Telogen Effluvium. Feinberg at UIC was adamant that it was a bad idea to use Propecia and have kids.

I fucked up. I wanted to believe it was a Telogen Effluvium or thyroid related as it came out of nowhere. I did take Propecia and did experience sides before going with topical as directed by a derm. Needless to say nothing has worked and I still shed a ton of hair daily and I’m diffusing everywhere. Not looking for a miracle or to even regrow. Fine being a little thinner with some recession at my age. But the change from baseline in under 3 years with this much f*****g effort is f*****g miserable.

right now I’m throw everything at it and it’s only getting worse: Propecia oral, Oral Minoxidil 10mg, topical Dutasteride, RU... it’s a ducking mess and yes trying to fight hairloss has ruined my life more than losing hair ever could have.

Besides the fact that i really think that you have destroyed your hair quality with all those meds changing them continuously, not keeping with them for not even 3 months and after switching again, with all the stress and everything, but i also notice that you always post pictures in the worst possible lighting and almost always with wet hair to accentuate the way the hair is seen by others and by yourself also. I can almost "see you" looking at those pics and saying to yourself that you are fucked.

You really need to get somebody to help you, and it's not a derm, it's a f*****g therapist and if you are still not considering it, from what you are doing here i can only assume that your either mentally ill or turned this into an obsession that is giving you some sort of weird satisfaction for whatever reason. Go live your life mate, your looking great for your age, i don't think that your stupid or retarded wtf is wrong with you, your wasting precious time that nobody will give back, ever, your destroying your body and health with all the drugs and continuous stress, i can't even imagine what is in that head of yours daily, i can't even wtf...

 

[bluecyclone]

Sort of too late. Bekfrothis started my life was ideal. I was an athlete, Ironman, great job that helped people, women everywhere, global travel...

since I am bitter depressed defeated and sort of rather just die than try to de with another night where my scalp itches so much I can’t sleep or a shower with 300 hairs.

 

[WaccWaccWacc]

Sort of too late. Bekfrothis started my life was ideal. I was an athlete, Ironman, great job that helped people, women everywhere, global travel...

since I am bitter depressed defeated and sort of rather just die than try to de with another night where my scalp itches so much I can’t sleep or a shower with 300 hairs.

Cry, complain, beat yourself up, grow it out, shave, bash others. At the end of the day it is what it is. Take that ‘it’ and make it positive. That way, whatever it is... it’s good. As someone who’s in your same exact position, make something out of yourself. The time will come where you realize that you cannot change anything and you’re tired of being down and want to be up, by then you will have realized how much time you’ve wasted. Seek help.


Were u an athlete, ironman, great job without trying? Have you accomplished anything without effort? Pick yourself up and put in effort to better yourself, otherwise enjoy being down until you find the strength to do so.

 

[baba_yaga]

For the record Inwas down to start Propecia when I started losing hair. I had three top dermatologists/hair specialists in Chicago tell me it was a Telogen Effluvium and advised no Propecia. A year later as things got worse the advises minoxidil for the Telogen Effluvium. Feinberg at UIC was adamant that it was a bad idea to use Propecia and have kids.

I fucked up. I wanted to believe it was a Telogen Effluvium or thyroid related as it came out of nowhere. I did take Propecia and did experience sides before going with topical as directed by a derm. Needless to say nothing has worked and I still shed a ton of hair daily and I’m diffusing everywhere. Not looking for a miracle or to even regrow. Fine being a little thinner with some recession at my age. But the change from baseline in under 3 years with this much f*****g effort is f*****g miserable.

right now I’m throw everything at it and it’s only getting worse: Propecia oral, Oral Minoxidil 10mg, topical Dutasteride, RU... it’s a ducking mess and yes trying to fight hairloss has ruined my life more than losing hair ever could have.

I suggest to leave oral min for now. Some people get destroyed by oral minoxidil shed and never recover, even on oral finasteride.

 

[randolf_faust]

please stop using TOPICAL FINASTERIDE if you are currenty working on getting children. it can easily be transmitted to your wife/gf (she touches your hair, or you touch your hair and then you touch her etc).

you dont want your son to have disfigured genitals and other deformities. its highly irresponsible.

 

[bluecyclone]

Won’t stopping the oral minoxidil just kill just about every hair I have left? I agree in that the sides and back are also far worse and maybe the constant shed is from the oral minoxidil. Again the doctors loved that medication and acted like it was a cure when I started 3 years ago.

I stopped thinking about a family so no worries on the topicals. I just want to die.

 

[Tom4362]

I stopped thinking about a family so no worries on the topicals. I just want to die.

I suspect nothing bad has happened in your life until now, right? Since one thing you sure did not learn in the 43 years you are on this planet is how to deal with problems and having a healthy perspective.

 

[bluecyclone]

No I have experienced problems like everyone else.

Unlike this I have, through effort, time, and investment been able to solve those problems and mourn the things I know are out of my control.

This is a mindfuck in that yes it could be solved, but the compromises are ridiculous when you factor in side effects. The in ability to know what works and what does not, or what has made it worse. It is insane. This is a medical issue that should have been resolved years ago.

curious about the oral minoxidil question. also 3 full years. Doctors acted like they solved my hairloss when they started me on this and upped the dose. How can it be doing harm? How can if be more harmful than topical to my hair?

my heart health is perfect. Even using oral minoxidil and RU.

mom trying to mix Propecia ora back in and thought maybe I could figure out a way to tolerate it. This far I’ve only gotten worse in AA’s and shedding is as big an issue as miniaturization.

 

[bluecyclone]

Please can I get real feedback on male pattern baldness versus Age versus chronic Telogen Effluvium... still shedding 300ish every shower.

tried to get better pics. So thin and most have a tapered root.

 

[TomRiddle]

Please can I get real feedback on male pattern baldness versus Age versus chronic Telogen Effluvium... still shedding 300ish every shower.

tried to get better pics. So thin and most have a tapered root.

Uffff

 

[baba_yaga]

Please can I get real feedback on male pattern baldness versus Age versus chronic Telogen Effluvium... still shedding 300ish every shower.

tried to get better pics. So thin and most have a tapered root.

I am diffuse thinning and your over the top photo shows little scalp with wet hair. My scalp would be much MUCH more visible in that case. I think you're holding up very good.

 

[bluecyclone]

Thanks. My baseline what GOAT though just 3 years back. If I could stop the shed maybe I could chill the f*** out.

is it true that if less than 20% of she’d hair is miniaturized that it’s a Telogen Effluvium?

is this not true when you have deep taper on the roots?

I’m about 9 days back on oral Propecia 1mg fighting through sides, I think test is doing damage. I’m 43 and with not much effort I am gaining lean muscle fast.

got labs:

Very Very Low RBC
Low LH
Low FSH
Good T3, T4 and free T
Low DHT 14
Mid Test 600
Mid Free Test
Low Ferritin
Good Iron
Good B-12

I think I’m losing at the same rate but just not growing back like before.

waiting on zinc, e, shbg, hepta, cholesterols, and cortisol

 

[Anatoly]

you need a GP, anaemia goes in line with your diffuse thinning, you need a gastroenterologist as well - you don't provide the numbers, but be aware of the fact that if your RBC is very low, your doctors will need to surf for a source of blood loss - most frequently this is a job for a gastroenterologist, tumours also cause severe anaemia ;
taking iron supplements without a more thorough exam is not a good idea, anaemia is not just lack of iron, very complex processes are involved (incl. age-related autoimmune things) and you may need some more serious prescription drugs to address the issue

 

[Pequod]

A very low red blood cell count probably means recent internal bleeding, since your iron levels are normal. Your body has enough iron to replace what you're losing, so you need to have a doctor find the source of bleeding. You can look up that a low red blood cell count can also cause hair loss.

What Are the Signs of Low Red Blood Cell Count? Various symptoms of low RBC count can include fatigue, being easily tired, pale appearance, palpitations (heart racing), shortness of breath, etc. Other symptoms like hair loss, malaise (feeling unwell) and worsening of heart problems can also indicate low RBC count (Anemia).

 

[Sseoud86]

Thanks. My baseline what GOAT though just 3 years back. If I could stop the shed maybe I could chill the f*** out.

is it true that if less than 20% of she’d hair is miniaturized that it’s a Telogen Effluvium?

is this not true when you have deep taper on the roots?

I’m about 9 days back on oral Propecia 1mg fighting through sides, I think test is doing damage. I’m 43 and with not much effort I am gaining lean muscle fast.

got labs:

Very Very Low RBC
Low LH
Low FSH
Good T3, T4 and free T
Low DHT 14
Mid Test 600
Mid Free Test
Low Ferritin
Good Iron
Good B-12

I think I’m losing at the same rate but just not growing back like before.

waiting on zinc, e, shbg, hepta, cholesterols, and cortisol

What did the doctor say about your RBC? I would be more worried about figuring that out then the latter at the moment if I were you.

 

[bluecyclone]

Honestly the hematologists just dismiss it and claim I’m not anemic. Won’t address the hair correlation at all. The only reason I’m not anemic is the fact that I’ve had three Iron IVs since December. During that time hair still fell but it also grew back.

thanks for the helpful feedback, I’m going to pursue this path and have a bunch of G.I. tests to try and figure out the nutrient absorption angle.

also, hit 10 days 1 mg Propecia managing sides, stopped all topicals though I’m worried about test. DHT came back low again at 15 but test at about 800.