Re: f***ed by Finasteride - read it for an informed decision
Mens Rea said:
[quote="twenty.five":33fauf5f]The anti-finasteride stuff about permanent side effects is such bullshit.
A few bitter old men who didn't get the results they wanted and imagined that their side effects continued after stopping the drug. It only takes a little bit of anxiety before you can't perform.
So they run around calling finasteride "poison", creating further anxiety and no doubt thereby increasing the number of men who think they've been affected, when the truth is that the vast majority of people have no sides, and those that do just stop and so do the sides. It's a modern day hysteria.
Truth? TRUTH??!
Twenty.five, your posts are becoming offensive, ignorant and sincerely irritating.
You are so far outside the remit of your knowledge its simply embarassing.
Persistent finasteride side effects have destroyed lives. There's been atleast one documented suicide. No doubt you'll dispute the validity of this, but even if you read on the most basic latest studies about finasteride's persistent effects (see Dr Irwig's write up for instance) you'd know something is going on here. Check out propeciahelp and you'll see it goes far beyond hysteria - some of the best endochronologists in the world are recogising "Post-finasteride syndrome" as something that is very real indeed.
I personally, a 25 year old young male, have had my sexual function almost destroyed by finasteride (it goes worse and worse AFTER cessation - such is a common experience of PFS). This is not anxiety related. I won't go into the details but we are far beyond anything so incidental, i assure you.
The fact you believe its bullshit is simply proof you don't understand the human body in detail. But yet you take the libery to dismiss such a massive thing. Can you see how ignorant you are being and how offensive this is to people myself and hundreds of others?
Some guys , perfectly healthy, have had violent endoctrine crashes within weeks after cessation of the drug. Their body's just go haywire and they dont recover like that should.
Heres some useful facts about finasteride for you to ponder:
Finasteride inhibits the 5ARII enzyme which is responsible for converting testosterone to dihyrotestosterone (DHT) which is said to cause hair loss. The problem is that the 5ARII enzyme also has other functions such as the synthesis of a critical neurosteroid called allopregnanolone. Also the conversion from progesterone to dihyroprogesterone. finasteride causes the blood brain barrier.
Setting aside the obviously extremely complex issues this can cause for certain individuals in relation to the latter functions, lets just consider the basic endoctrine issues. Finasteride inhibits a hugely important hormone, DHT, the hormone responsible for "all things male" - this hormone is very prominant in the prostrate and scalp. Finasteride wrecklessly inhibits both. As a result, estrogen increases by 15% as does testosterone. From here there can be all kinds of complex feedback mechanisms within the endoctrine system being triggered. For most, this is inconsquential but for others, this can mark a change that is very hard to reverse. Many men have turned hypogondal after finasteride - their testosterone production is failing.
The above is only scratching the surface. For example, pressure on the endoctrine system as per above can call all sort of stress signals which can alter cortisol production (the adrenals) as well as much more complicated things like immunity.
Seriously, this subject is currently confusing some of the best minds in medicine. The ones who are active in its research are of no doubt that something profound is happening in cases such as mine. The bigger concern, however, is brain damage. Some guys lose a serious amount of cognitive ability post-cessation. This is scarey but when one researchs the specific mechanisms of finasteride it can quickly be concluded that it's a much more dangerous drug that most seem to realise. Most urologists know this is a serious drug and one that should only be used for older men who can live with sexual problems.
I hope my post can encourage you to realise you have been unreasonable in your tone and trigger happy with you "opinion".[/quote:33fauf5f]
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