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the Last Fight

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I think it safe to say that we, as in people, dont know a thing when it comes to topics such as this. Its all seems to be a guessing game ... fasting isnt something im willing to do on a consisten basis, but its something that i wanted to try at least once to see how long i could last.

Ps: i also heard that hibernation during the winter extends ones lifespan by 47%
 

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ali777 said:
barcafan said:
Well i know for a fact that a caloric deficit has a strong correlation to life extension. So maybe that's why fasting is considered good for longevity..

Show us your facts!!!

I have to agree that regular detoxification or not indulging in fatty or sugary foods is of benefit, but fasting for 36 hours as previously stated in another post?

I think we have to agree on what we mean by "calorie restriction" and fasting. For me a male consuming less than 2000cal a day would be on a calorie restricted diet. In other words, what we commonly refer to as "being on diet" is the same as calorie restriction, and we all know the benefits of "being on diet".

Fasting, on the other hand, would be abstaining from food and drink for a certain amount of time. If there was a proof that fast had positive effect on the body, the religious people would have played that card and we would have known about it.

Fasting and calorie restricted diet should not be assumed to mean the same thing.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1834

Fasting for 24 hours/36 hours IS good for the body.
 

ali777

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optimus prime said:
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1834

Fasting for 24 hours/36 hours IS good for the body.

You can't show a student paper and accept it as a fact. Worst of all, the references linked in the paper don't even exist. Anyone can write that paper and put a few fake links. What about the potential dangers of fasting?

We all agree regular detoxification is of benefit, I never claim the opposite. However, I strongly oppose the idea of religious fasting to be of biological benefit. For example, the Islamic fast is a total fast where even the consumption of water is forbidden. Do you really think dehydration has biological benefits?

For example the paper says that one of the reasons why fasting can extend the lifespan is the reduced metabolic rate. Do we really want to reduce our metabolic rate? I go running regularly in order to increase my metabolic rate. It may shorten my lifespan but it increases my quality of life.
 

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ali777 said:
We all agree regular detoxification is of benefit, I never claim the opposite. However, I strongly oppose the idea of religious fasting to be of biological benefit. For example, the Islamic fast is a total fast where even the consumption of water is forbidden. Do you really think dehydration has biological benefits?

I never referred to water fasting or religious fasting. I do however believe that not eating or not eating much for 24 hours has many benefits to the body, including healing.

I will try and find some scientific proof...
 

ali777

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optimus prime said:
I never referred to water fasting or religious fasting. I do however believe that not eating or not eating much for 24 hours has many benefits to the body, including healing.

I will try and find some scientific proof...

I'm not disputing that, I agree detoxification is of benefit.... As I said earlier, we have to agree on the definition of fasting.

For me fasting is abstinence of food for a certain amount of time. Basically, what you are saying is we have to eat a bit to avoid malnutrition or starvation, where starvation is burning muscle mass. I can't imagine total abstinence for 36 hours to be beneficial. If you have a proof, I'll have a look. However, I'm pretty certain there are many studies showing how damaging such a fast is as well.

Your definition of fasting is what we normally refer as dieting. I can't see a difference with the modern form of dieting.
 
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