It appears to me that you think you are bigger than the rest of us here on this forum (by saying that you got here on your own, not thanks to guys on this forum but anyway you are going to try to help others unlike other guys on here because you are soooo much bigger) So then be the bigger person. Stop being childish. Drop the attitude. FYI. All of us here including me have got here on our own. We've made our own decision on whether to get treatments (finasteride, etc.) and if so, which. So please don't be a drama queen!