Fatty acids stimulate follice stem cells to grow hair? I am going to test this...

[strictly4myhair]

I wish just eating or drinking the fatty acid would work lol. It still kinda sucks that you gotta keep applying this topical like minoxidill in order for it to keep working. I highly highly doubt stopping entirely will make the hair keep growing like normal.

I feel you Losing but to hell with it if it works applying it topically we gon do it

 

[strictly4myhair]

While I'm here I do want to bring up a 3rd acid. And that is Valproic Acid. Valproic acid (including divalproex sodium, valproate sodium) is a prescription antiepileptic drug (AED) and mood stabilizer used to treat seizure disorders, bipolar disorder (manic episodes), and prevent migraines.

Valproic acts on the GABA receptor and ions of the brain. I bring Valproic Acid because it's been found that it can potentially induce follicle neogenisis (via wound inducing) and can stimulate the wnt pathway.

Now heres the ironic part, so just like oliec acid , valproic acid can only have a positive affect on follicles when topically! Patients the took the drug orally ( via tablets) hair loss was a thing being brought up... But when used topically it induces growth of hair.

Here's the result of a guy using Valproic Acid on his hairline via looksmax forum

Valproic Acid hair regrowth (problem with soluble Valproic)

I want to test this method of lowering the hairline (only topical). Once a week dermapen Valproic Acid (diy cream) calcipotriol Tretinoin (very low doses) CD34: topical PGE2 or topical Valproic acid(generic PGE2 gels is availble at 0.5% CD200: topical Calcitirol or Calcipotriol(generic creams...

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But (always a but with this androgenetic alopecia thing) Valproic Acid powder is very hard to source. Valproic Acid tablets can be "dissolved" but it's hard to dissolve which the guy in the picture complained about ( still got results as we can see even though it didn't dissolve 100 percent he literally has a feminine type hairline forming using this) there's other post on the looksmaxx forum that are going to be testing it out on their hairline and other parts of their head.


A couple of the guys ordered the powder it back in February but it still hasn't arrived....

VPA Hair-Growth Experiment

Problem is, most DIY attempts to extract VPA from extended-release tablets (like Amvalor Chrono) turn into a headache: lumps, partial dissolutions, leftover binders, and no guarantee of a proper solution. On the flip side, sourcing “pure” VPA powder from random IndiaMart vendors is risky...

looksmax.org

I wonder if Valproic acid works the same as the Oliec Acid.

 

[losingbattle88]

Yep I would probably buy pure oleic acid. The mouse with that looked like it had just a little more growth at 20 days than the other acid.

While I'm here I do want to bring up a 3rd acid. And that is Valproic Acid. Valproic acid (including divalproex sodium, valproate sodium) is a prescription antiepileptic drug (AED) and mood stabilizer used to treat seizure disorders, bipolar disorder (manic episodes), and prevent migraines.

Valproic acts on the GABA receptor and ions of the brain. I bring Valproic Acid because it's been found that it can potentially induce follicle neogenisis (via wound inducing) and can stimulate the wnt pathway.

Now heres the ironic part, so just like oliec acid , valproic acid can only have a positive affect on follicles when topically! Patients the took the drug orally ( via tablets) hair loss was a thing being brought up... But when used topically it induces growth of hair.

Here's the result of a guy using Valproic Acid on his hairline via looksmax forum

Valproic Acid hair regrowth (problem with soluble Valproic)

I want to test this method of lowering the hairline (only topical). Once a week dermapen Valproic Acid (diy cream) calcipotriol Tretinoin (very low doses) CD34: topical PGE2 or topical Valproic acid(generic PGE2 gels is availble at 0.5% CD200: topical Calcitirol or Calcipotriol(generic creams...

looksmax.org

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But (always a but with this androgenetic alopecia thing) Valproic Acid powder is very hard to source. Valproic Acid tablets can be "dissolved" but it's hard to dissolve which the guy in the picture complained about ( still got results as we can see even though it didn't dissolve 100 percent he literally has a feminine type hairline forming using this) there's other post on the looksmaxx forum that are going to be testing it out on their hairline and other parts of their head.


A couple of the guys ordered the powder it back in February but it still hasn't arrived....

VPA Hair-Growth Experiment

Problem is, most DIY attempts to extract VPA from extended-release tablets (like Amvalor Chrono) turn into a headache: lumps, partial dissolutions, leftover binders, and no guarantee of a proper solution. On the flip side, sourcing “pure” VPA powder from random IndiaMart vendors is risky...

looksmax.org

I wonder if Valproic acid works the same as the Oliec Acid.

Curious on that myself and its why my plan is to drop to once a week application after week 12 and then later if that works stop entirely and see if it starts reversing or not. If it does I will just jump back on it. My frontal hair is just a little thicker now from it I just noticed for the first time a few days ago. Guessing the new growth must be just a tad thicker as I dont think any new hairs have sprouted there. If I do have to keep using this stuff more than once a week in the future I will probably switch to an alcohol application.

Found two examples. Very cheap at least.

 

[Ĺawton]

While I'm here I do want to bring up a 3rd acid. And that is Valproic Acid. Valproic acid (including divalproex sodium, valproate sodium) is a prescription antiepileptic drug (AED) and mood stabilizer used to treat seizure disorders, bipolar disorder (manic episodes), and prevent migraines.

Valproic acts on the GABA receptor and ions of the brain. I bring Valproic Acid because it's been found that it can potentially induce follicle neogenisis (via wound inducing) and can stimulate the wnt pathway.

Now heres the ironic part, so just like oliec acid , valproic acid can only have a positive affect on follicles when topically! Patients the took the drug orally ( via tablets) hair loss was a thing being brought up... But when used topically it induces growth of hair.

Here's the result of a guy using Valproic Acid on his hairline via looksmax forum

Valproic Acid hair regrowth (problem with soluble Valproic)

I want to test this method of lowering the hairline (only topical). Once a week dermapen Valproic Acid (diy cream) calcipotriol Tretinoin (very low doses) CD34: topical PGE2 or topical Valproic acid(generic PGE2 gels is availble at 0.5% CD200: topical Calcitirol or Calcipotriol(generic creams...

looksmax.org

View attachment 191584
But (always a but with this androgenetic alopecia thing) Valproic Acid powder is very hard to source. Valproic Acid tablets can be "dissolved" but it's hard to dissolve which the guy in the picture complained about ( still got results as we can see even though it didn't dissolve 100 percent he literally has a feminine type hairline forming using this) there's other post on the looksmaxx forum that are going to be testing it out on their hairline and other parts of their head.


A couple of the guys ordered the powder it back in February but it still hasn't arrived....

VPA Hair-Growth Experiment

Problem is, most DIY attempts to extract VPA from extended-release tablets (like Amvalor Chrono) turn into a headache: lumps, partial dissolutions, leftover binders, and no guarantee of a proper solution. On the flip side, sourcing “pure” VPA powder from random IndiaMart vendors is risky...

looksmax.org

I wonder if Valproic acid works the same as the Oliec Acid.

I am into anti-aging research and even though it can do some helpful things there are too many possible downsides to Valproic acid imo from what others reported. Personally I wouldnt start using that stuff regularly but I guess you can try it and see if you want. I know some people really into cutting edge stuff years ago for slowing aging down quit using it after a while but cant remember the reasons they did.

 

[losingbattle88]

I am into anti-aging research and even though it can do some helpful things there are too many possible downsides to Valproic acid imo from what others reported. Personally I wouldnt start using that stuff regularly but I guess you can try it and see if you want. I know some people really into cutting edge stuff years ago for slowing aging down quit using it after a while but cant remember the reasons they did.

Topical oleic acid dont work for everyone but for some it seems to. Its the same case with minoxidill. But the issue with pure oleic acid is that it will cause skin irritation and it also fucks the skin barrier. Using pure oleic acid with ethanol or dmso on a daily basis cant be good for the skin long term.

 

[Ĺawton]

Topical oleic acid dont work for everyone but for some it does. Its the same case with minoxidill. But the issue with pure oleic acid is that it will cause skin irritation and it also fucks the skin barrier. Using pure oleic acid with ethanol or dmso on a daily basis cant be good for the skin long term.

I doubt oleic acid in that % with the much higher alcohol content would do anything but I cant say for sure as I have never tried it yet.

 

[losingbattle88]

I doubt oleic acid in that % with the much higher alcohol content would do anything but I cant say for sure as I have never tried it yet.

I think its just another treatment like minoxidill. But with no side effects at least. Doesnt hurt to add it into a regimen. I will experiment with it I guess. But applying 95% ethanol daily on my scalp will not only f*** my skin but also my hair. I also hate topicals thats why I use oral min twice a day +SP and finasteride. Lawton did u ever try minoxidill topically for some months or orally?

 

[Ĺawton]

I think its just another treatment like minoxidill. But with no side effects at least. Doesnt hurt to add it into a regimen. I will experiment with it I guess. But applying 95% ethanol daily on my scalp will not only f*** my skin but also my hair. I also hate topicals thats why I use oral min twice a day +SP and finasteride. Lawton did u ever try minoxidill topically for some months or orally?

No I never tried topical minoxidil. I was close to doing it years ago but the stories about people that stopped it losing their results scared me off as its a big commitment long term.

Is that type of alcohol really bad on the hair?

 

[losingbattle88]

No I never tried topical minoxidil. I was close to doing it years ago but the stories about people that stopped it losing their results scared me off as its a big commitment long term.

Is that type of alcohol really bad on the hair?

In the past I used 96% alc the type you can consume so it was safe. But its so strong that I could litteraly see fumes when applying it. Very drying and long term it can cause skin inflammation. But i think the trick is to use as little as possible not drench the scalp.

 

[losingbattle88]

No I never tried topical minoxidil. I was close to doing it years ago but the stories about people that stopped it losing their results scared me off as its a big commitment long term.

Is that type of alcohol really bad on the hair?

Maybe try oral min at least. I use 5 drops of the topical min in a glass of water in the morning and 4 drops at night. Much cheaper than buying pills. I use the 2% version min so in total I probably use 5-6mg a day. And yes many do my method and it works.

 

[Ĺawton]

In the past I used 96% alc the type you can consume so it was safe. But its so strong that I could litteraly see fumes when applying it. Very drying and long term it can cause skin inflammation. But i think the trick is to use as little as possible not drench the scalp.

Would be nice if there was some oil that would carry all the oleic acid down to the papilla area with no problem but studies have shown that much of the oil doesnt reach there on its own. Even with the hair shaft it still is hard to get much down there.

 

[losingbattle88]

No I never tried topical minoxidil. I was close to doing it years ago but the stories about people that stopped it losing their results scared me off as its a big commitment long term.

Is that type of alcohol really bad on the hair?

Ever since using oral min and saw palmetto my daily hair shedding has definately reduced. Now I added finasteride to try once more.

 

[losingbattle88]

Would be nice if there was some oil that would carry all the oleic acid down to the papilla area with no problem but studies have shown that much of the oil doesnt reach there on its own. Even with the hair shaft it still is hard to get much down there.

Would be nice if there was some oil that would carry all the oleic acid down to the papilla area with no problem but studies have shown that much of the oil doesnt reach there on its own. Even with the hair shaft it still is hard to get much down there.

I think applying it maybe m,w.f would be best long term.

 

[strictly4myhair]

Topical oleic acid dont work for everyone but for some it seems to. Its the same case with minoxidill. But the issue with pure oleic acid is that it will cause skin irritation and it also fucks the skin barrier. Using pure oleic acid with ethanol or dmso on a daily basis cant be good for the skin long term.

I did some reading and apparently those guys used a very low percentage like 10 percentage the guy you showed with the 90 day progress is using wayyyy more of a percentage of the acids compared to them.
I think that's why it's working well for him.

 

[losingbattle88]

I did some reading and apparently those guys used a very low percentage like 10 percentage the guy you showed with the 90 day progress is using wayyyy more of a percentage of the acids compared to them.
I think that's why it's working well for him.

That reddit guy is probably not on finasteride or min. He wanted to use a naturall treatment it seems. I bet he would respond good to finasteride and min aswell because by the looks of it he is very sensitive to DHT or got too much of it. The reason lawton uses this method of growing hair is because he refuse to use finasteride and min.

 

[Ĺawton]

Q q

I did some reading and apparently those guys used a very low percentage like 10 percentage the guy you showed with the 90 day progress is using wayyyy more of a percentage of the acids compared to them.
I think that's why it's working well for him.

I forget what % he said but I think I read somewhere one of those 2 acids (oleic or the other one) not to go over about 1/6 in the mix to make sure it dissolves into the alcohol good.

 

[DemodexMitesExterminator]

I love male butts.

 

[strictly4myhair]

I love male butts.

 

[losingbattle88]

The reddit guy uses 34% oleic acid formula instead of 10% like the study because his oleic acid purity is only 70% while the study had 99%. So he had to compensate for that. Thats why he mixed a 30% formula. I found a 65% purity from some lab so I will also create a 30% formula or so. Just messaged that lab and waiting for a reply.

 

[losingbattle88]

Just got an answer. They only sell the product to businesses. So f*** it.