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Adri23

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so the pillar for hair restoration and less inflammation is high e2 and nuked T and dht?Everything else come second?
I mean even with a bit of a raise in dht can other things proven to work like minoxidil needling and other things like make the dht spike irrelevant?
As long as you keep dht between 4 to 6 ng/dl you are good. Like 8-9 ng/dl is still good but if you cant aim to the 4-6 ng/dl it is better.
 

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As long as you keep dht between 4 to 6 ng/dl you are good. Like 8-9 ng/dl is still good but if you cant aim to the 4-6 ng/dl it is better.
if i have dht lower than 10 ng dl in the serum how about the scalp tissue?
 

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As long as you keep dht between 4 to 6 ng/dl you are good. Like 8-9 ng/dl is still good but if you cant aim to the 4-6 ng/dl it is better.
i want my hair forever. I need high e2 nuked T and dht and then i would like to take high dose bica just in case.
If i have dht below 10 ng dl can bica blocks it effectively??
 

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if i have dht lower than 10 ng dl in the serum how about the scalp tissue?
Well that can be a bit tricky. That is why I want ro use high dutasteride dosages. That ensures you low tissue dht. Aim for at least 2.5 mg dutasteride if you want to aim to %84+ scalp dht inhibition
 

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i want my hair forever. I need high e2 nuked T and dht and then i would like to take high dose bica just in case.
If i have dht below 10 ng dl can bica blocks it effectively??
Not worth to use bica for 10 ng/dl and i dont think it can block it fully unless you take 50 or more mg per day. It is more expensive than dutasteride and less effective for DHT
 

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Not worth to use bica for 10 ng/dl and i dont think it can block it fully unless you take 50 or more mg per day. It is more expensive than dutasteride and less effective for DHT
im becoming so greedy i want my hair healty till i die.I dont care about aging hair loss i just want them to not miniaturize.
What should i do?
So having dht below 10 ng dl can still lead to miniaturization?
 

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Not worth to use bica for 10 ng/dl and i dont think it can block it fully unless you take 50 or more mg per day. It is more expensive than dutasteride and less effective for DHT
bica is healty as far as i know and even 200 mg a day could be safe (?)
 

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it looks like e2 is taking me back when i was a kid, when i was like 15-16 yrs old.I hope i can maintain my kid face
 

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im becoming so greedy i want my hair healty till i die.I dont care about aging hair loss i just want them to not miniaturize.
What should i do?
So having dht below 10 ng dl can still lead to miniaturization?
Well as you said tissue dht is unknown unless you do biopsy or something like that. So if you dont want or cant do it 2.5 mg dutasteride or more is your best bet to be safe forever.
bica is healty as far as i know and even 200 mg a day could be safe (?)
No. It is safe at 12.5mg or 25 mg daily and there are no studies long term but some trans have taken it for many years without issues for now. If you take 50 mg or more it start to rise side effects long term, especially liver issues.
can e2 2.5 mg dutasteride and high dose bica be the cure?
E2 + dutasteride 2.5 mg or more + 12.5 mg bica daily + oral min 2.5 mg + tretinoin cream and topical minoxidil 5% in temples and hairline is what I think it can be one of the best hair loss stack we have rn IMO
 

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Well as you said tissue dht is unknown unless you do biopsy or something like that. So if you dont want or cant do it 2.5 mg dutasteride or more is your best bet to be safe forever.

No. It is safe at 12.5mg or 25 mg daily and there are no studies long term but some trans have taken it for many years without issues for now. If you take 50 mg or more it start to rise side effects long term, especially liver issues.

E2 + dutasteride 2.5 mg or more + 12.5 mg bica daily + oral min 2.5 mg + tretinoin cream and topical minoxidil 5% in temples and hairline is what I think it can be one of the best hair loss stack we have rn IMO
do you think if you up bica to 25 mg daily again will make things worse? (I doubt)
I need to get a job asap to buy 5 avodart box and take 2.5 mg daily asap
 

sg2000

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will high dose of dutasteride like 2.5 mg and more still raise T significantly despite being on e2?
 

Adri23

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do you think if you up bica to 25 mg daily again will make things worse? (I doubt)
I need to get a job asap to buy 5 avodart box and take 2.5 mg daily asap
I dont need bica 25 mg. Im good with 12.5 mg bica and more dutasteride with the rest of the stack
will high dose of dutasteride like 2.5 mg and more still raise T significantly despite being on e2?
Lol that is a stupid question. You know the answer already
 

sg2000

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I dont need bica 25 mg. Im good with 12.5 mg bica and more dutasteride with the rest of the stack

Lol that is a stupid question. You know the answer already
okok,i hope my dht is never going to spike and remain 5,0 ng dl even if i stop cpa…
If thats gonna happen i should up dutasteride dosage asap
 

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okok,i hope my dht is never going to spike and remain 5,0 ng dl even if i stop cpa…
If thats gonna happen i should up dutasteride dosage asap
Yeah do it, it is never bad to increase dutasteride if you are anxious and want to get peace of mind
 

pentobean

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Okay after reconsideration and looking my scalp I’m switching to Estrogen Cypo injections, since it’s more bioavailable. I don’t know how to inject for sh*t but I’ll figure it out.

I’m going to try out
Bica 50mg
dutasteride .5mg
Estrogen cypo injections
Maybe raloxifene every once in a while
 

pentobean

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Like holy f*** my crown is trash tier, I have only noticed regrowth in the sides of the hairline. My hair has gotten way thicker than before but I think I’ll stick with my new stack and cruise with it over the next few months
 

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I think everyone’s treatment is different. If you have reflex estrogen may only make your situation worse same with bica. Some people respond well to finasteride and then terrible to dutasteride. It’s all trial and error. So far estrogen bica and finasteride caused more inflammation and the only thing that works on cooling that down is drugs that are meant/completely for anti inflammation.
 

Dav1234

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And I don’t think my body reacts well to hormonoal functions as estrogen had my hair super oily.
 
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