Craniofacial development - The thing that make us lose hair(A hair loss theory)

[Mitko1]

@Ritchie It's still unclear why exactly people with poor facial structure still have their hair. I used to believe that their face shape is balanced at some way but this is not the case. Angel di Maria has horrible head posture.

So does David Schwimmer

I hypothesise now that the facial fat thickness is what stops the tension from propagating to the galea. I notice that the skin of men who go bald looks thinner and they develop more wrinkles as they age. When you see photos of balding men who get hair transplants or hair pieces you can notice how flat their faces look compared to men who have poor facial structure but full head of hair. You can notice the typical winkles under the eyes they have.

For the non balding examples I picked men with smooth galeas being sure they will never recede.

 

[strictly4myhair]

I just wish there was a way to halt and even reverse hairloss without inhibiting androgens (Testosterone/5ar [dht]), but I say that all to say Androgenetic Alopecia seems to be connected to Skeletal Health in one way or another and we see the extreme measures men on here take to halt and spur regrowth of hair via Testosterone inhibiting.

But for us cis gender men who don't want to go that far due to sideffects what can we possibly do to get those same results without inhibiting Androgens PERIOD.

 

[Jpw1999]

I just wish there was a way to halt and even reverse hairloss without inhibiting androgens (Testosterone/5ar [dht]), but I say that all to say Androgenetic Alopecia seems to be connected to Skeletal Health in one way or another and we see the extreme measures men on here take to halt and spur regrowth of hair via Testosterone inhibiting.

But for us cis gender men who don't want to go that far due to sideffects what can we possibly do to get those same results without inhibiting Androgens PERIOD.

I'm on dutasteride, no noticeable side effects at all but my hair is still slowly thinning

 

[strictly4myhair]

@Ritchie It's still unclear why exactly people with poor facial structure still have their hair. I used to believe that their face shape is balanced at some way but this is not the case. Angel di Maria has horrible head posture.
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So does David Schwimmer
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I hypothesise now that the facial fat thickness is what stops the tension from propagating to the galea. I notice that the skin of men who go bald looks thinner and they develop more wrinkles as they age. When you see photos of balding men who get hair transplants or hair pieces you can notice how flat their faces look compared to men who have poor facial structure but full head of hair. You can notice the typical winkles under the eyes they have.
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For the non balding examples I picked men with smooth galeas being sure they will never recede.
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Hmmm the reminds me of "Fat Pad / Brown Fat " theory but in the scalp wonder if facial fat could be the same thing

 

[strictly4myhair]

I'm on dutasteride, no noticeable side effects at all but my hair is still slowly thinning

damn this shi is so terrible

 

[strictly4myhair]

I'm on dutasteride, no noticeable side effects at all but my hair is still slowly thinning

the sad reality as of now seems to be in some men 5ar / dht inhibiting just isn't enough to move the needle in terms of hair regrowth to its maximum potential and halting it.

Testosterone inhibiting is barbiac as hell but we see it can stop the cascade of what the hell is going on in androgenetic alopecia (via Eunuchs and Castratis and even some trans individuals) thing is like many of us cis gender men we want to keep our masculinity and not have all the crazy amounts of side effects of stopping test production.


(To make it clear I'm not saying any man should do this, he'll I wouldn't do it myself but it definitely has me thinking and researching , 'why are there men who are clearly Androgen dominant (nw0 hair and even beards) not lose hair?' 'Native american men what genetic differences do they have' etc)

 

[Jpw1999]

the sad reality as of now seems to be in some men 5ar / dht inhibiting just isn't enough to move the needle in terms of hair regrowth to its maximum potential and halting it.

Testosterone inhibiting is barbiac as hell but we see it can stop the cascade of what the hell is going on in androgenetic alopecia (via Eunuchs and Castratis and even some trans individuals) thing is like many of us cis gender men we want to keep our masculinity and not have all the crazy amounts of side effects of stopping test production.


(To make it clear I'm not saying any man should do this, he'll I wouldn't do it myself but it definitely has me thinking and researching , 'why are there men who are clearly Androgen dominant (nw0 hair and even beards) not lose hair?' 'Native american men what genetic differences do they have' etc)

I'd rather get a transplant for my hairline just to frame my face and accept that everything behind the hairline will thin over time. The most important part is the hairline in my opinion.

Hair loss is just genetics, I've got an uncle that can grow a thick beard, has good muscle building genetics and still has a full head of hair at 63 but I can't grow much facial hair and I started losing hair at 18 because I inherited early onset hair loss from my mother's father.

 

[Yar]

I'd rather get a transplant for my hairline just to frame my face and accept that everything behind the hairline will thin over time. The most important part is the hairline in my opinion.

Hair loss is just genetics, I've got an uncle that can grow a thick beard, has good muscle building genetics and still has a full head of hair at 63 but I can't grow much facial hair and I started losing hair at 18 because I inherited early onset hair loss from my mother's father.

I think the cheapest hair transplant in Russia is at the gg med clinic, $1,500~$2,000.

 

[strictly4myhair]

@Ritchie It's still unclear why exactly people with poor facial structure still have their hair. I used to believe that their face shape is balanced at some way but this is not the case. Angel di Maria has horrible head posture.
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So does David Schwimmer
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I hypothesise now that the facial fat thickness is what stops the tension from propagating to the galea. I notice that the skin of men who go bald looks thinner and they develop more wrinkles as they age. When you see photos of balding men who get hair transplants or hair pieces you can notice how flat their faces look compared to men who have poor facial structure but full head of hair. You can notice the typical winkles under the eyes they have.
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For the non balding examples I picked men with smooth galeas being sure they will never recede.
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I'd rather get a transplant for my hairline just to frame my face and accept that everything behind the hairline will thin over time. The most important part is the hairline in my opinion.

Hair loss is just genetics, I've got an uncle that can grow a thick beard, has good muscle building genetics and still has a full head of hair at 63 but I can't grow much facial hair and I started losing hair at 18 because I inherited early onset hair loss from my mother's father.

Yeah genetics is mad weird I got 2 brothers and 1 sister (we all have the same mom but all 3 have the same dad but he's my dad too) anywho 2 of my brothers right they live a pretty carefree lifestyle smoke, drink, eat what they want etc, literally 0 hair loss straight hairline, corners and peaks. Their dad he's about as good as bald (he was born premature and he survived I don't know but I feel like that's relevant to share )
If he tries to grow his hair it will be thin areas and what not And it'll stay one length.

Me on the other hand I'm about a 1.5 / 2 (posted pictures in a thread) my corners has the u shaped turns and my temples are basically gone and my hair specifically above my ear and corners arent as thick like the rest of my hair. I have a afro but I wear them in loose two strand twist as of now but all in all I definitely got to face reality I'm definitely balding it is what it is, I want to keep my hair and get regrowth but I ddon't want to inhibit androgens. Till then I'm stuck in limbo researching what possible angles guys like me can attack.

 

[strictly4myhair]

There is only 1 drug I know of which is banned was a drug that was made for arthritis with potent anti inflammatory effects and worked miraculously to fix arthritis and that drug is Benoxaprofen.

Benoxaprofen definitely had influence over skeletal health in 1 way or another (arthritis has to do with bone and skeletal health) this drug wasn't out for very long but there's quite a bit of men taking the drug and Androgenetic Alopecia started reversing and people without hairloss experienced faster hair growth rate.

But as we know this drug had crazy side effects 1 of which was liver damage and people ultimately passed from it. So the drug was pulled from markets and banned.
Only way to get it now is from one of those chemical labs online but it's mad expensive and I think you have to be a company to even get it. Even then if you do get it we have to remember it dangerous!

In 2026 I understand why they haven't done research on it benoxaprofen was a catastrophic drug, but they should definitely look and even use animal models (with care of course) to see it's androgenetic alopecia reversing capabilities and see how exactly it influences skeletal health.

 

[strictly4myhair]

There is only 1 drug I know of which is banned was a drug that was made for arthritis with potent anti inflammatory effects and worked miraculously to fix arthritis and that drug is Benoxaprofen.

Benoxaprofen definitely had influence over skeletal health in 1 way or another (arthritis has to do with bone and skeletal health) this drug wasn't out for very long but there's quite a bit of men taking the drug and Androgenetic Alopecia started reversing and people without hairloss experienced faster hair growth rate.

But as we know this drug had crazy side effects 1 of which was liver damage and people ultimately passed from it. So the drug was pulled from markets and banned.
Only way to get it now is from one of those chemical labs online but it's mad expensive and I think you have to be a company to even get it. Even then if you do get it we have to remember it dangerous!

In 2026 I understand why they haven't done research on it benoxaprofen was a catastrophic drug, but they should definitely look and even use animal models (with care of course) to see it's androgenetic alopecia reversing capabilities and see how exactly it influences skeletal health.

Ironically too for alopecia areata Jak Inhibtors which were made for arthritis reverses areata too so again to me yes androgens are at play it is what it is but Skeletal Health is at play too and it makes sense our scalps literally sit on top of the skull so if we our balding wether it be recession or you're Norwood 7 in advance cases we should definitely question our skeletal health.