Craniofacial development - The thing that make us lose hair(A hair loss theory)

Do you believe this theory?

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    Votes: 33 64.7%

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justinbieberscombover

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It's hard to say for sure, but I believe neck muscles have played a big role. It's to simple to say posture as I think it's pretty good and I've worked on not having a forward head posture for years, but I do have really tight muscles all around front of neck/thyroid and shoulders. I have always done a reasonable amount of working out which hasn't helped. It's hard to explain and complex with the way the upper thoracic and cervical spine sit and meet.

My current aim is to loosen all these connecting muscles with massage and further posture work which is a slow process, to see if I can reduce the tension on galea.
Also my sleeping position is key, as when I lay with the correct thoracic spine posture I see instant but temporary results in hair texture. I also feel far better in the mornings as oxygen levels are much better when the thoracic spine is released. This usually fades as I get into my routine and hair goes more limp so it's a long term plan to shift the tension. But I'm certain this all has an effect.


If I do manage to loosen the scalp skin I don't even know if more tissue can reform under less tension, and if I don't see improvements in hair I'll know it's not worth the effort.

Also starting to look into injections or maybe at least will do in the future.
If it was all about that, we would see women going bald just like men. Women in our day and age work out a lot, including weightlifting exercises, and forward neck is extremely common nowadays among both genders. The factors you mentioned seem to only play a minor role in male pattern baldness. But I wish you good luck.
 

Regan

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If it was all about that, we would see women going bald just like men. Women in our day and age work out a lot, including weightlifting exercises, and forward neck is extremely common nowadays among both genders. The factors you mentioned seem to only play a minor role in male pattern baldness. But I wish you good luck.

Yeah but women clearly do a lot more yoga and that sort of b*llshit. I think the yoga relieves tension and therefore prevents hairloss, that's the reason men lose hair and women don't.
 

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If it was all about that, we would see women going bald just like men. Women in our day and age work out a lot, including weightlifting exercises, and forward neck is extremely common nowadays among both genders. The factors you mentioned seem to only play a minor role in male pattern baldness. But I wish you good luck.

It's not an equal comparison and like I said it's not as simple as looking at posture. Men have far thicker, bulkier and tighter muscles than women and this includes in the head/neck complex but surely you can see that. Women bodybuilders have a higher chance of balding. Again balding men also have far larger and firmer galea which is more significant than this but it's all part of the same equation for hair loss.

Women also have higher levels of circulating DHT relative to testosterone, but somehow they don't have follicles that are sensitive to this DHT so don't bald? Madness anyone who thinks this, DHT arrives at the site of an injury anywhere on the body, knee elbow etc. Hence why a balding (inflamed and under tension, as far as the body is concerned it's injured) scalp has more DHT preset.

High DHT in males who have a much larger testosterone level to women, can also contribute to the prolonged bone growth within the scalp is what I was mentioning earlier.

Bigger surface area will clearly stretch skin and this tension causes inflammation which brings more DHT. Blow up a balloon, feel the surface, then blow up some more. It's not rocket science.

But anyway let's agree to disagree and good luck
 

justinbieberscombover

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It's not an equal comparison and like I said it's not as simple as looking at posture. Men have far thicker, bulkier and tighter muscles than women and this includes in the head/neck complex but surely you can see that. Women bodybuilders have a higher chance of balding. Again balding men also have far larger and firmer galea which is more significant than this but it's all part of the same equation for hair loss.

Women also have higher levels of circulating DHT relative to testosterone, but somehow they don't have follicles that are sensitive to this DHT so don't bald? Madness anyone who thinks this, DHT arrives at the site of an injury anywhere on the body, knee elbow etc. Hence why a balding (inflamed and under tension, as far as the body is concerned it's injured) scalp has more DHT preset.

High DHT in males who have a much larger testosterone level to women, can also contribute to the prolonged bone growth within the scalp is what I was mentioning earlier.

Bigger surface area will clearly stretch skin and this tension causes inflammation which brings more DHT. Blow up a balloon, feel the surface, then blow up some more. It's not rocket science.

But anyway let's agree to disagree and good luck
Botox injections in the scalp that relax the muscles and relieve scalp tension do not stop hair loss. Some people even said it worsened their hairloss.

Do you think v**** and cialis would halt hairloss, since they improve blood flow?
 

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Botox injections in the scalp that relax the muscles and relieve scalp tension do not stop hair loss. Some people even said it worsened their hairloss.

Do you think v**** and cialis would halt hairloss, since they improve blood flow?

I've heard botox on the sides of head may help but the forehead can make hair loss worse.

Regarding blood flow, I think increasing blood flow to scalp of someone with male pattern baldness and the scalp tension I'm talking about is generally a bad idea, so headstands etc as circulating more DHT and increasing blood into the area won't help and may progress hair loss. So would think those drugs wouldn't necessarily help. I used to take l arginine which has a similar affect to those drugs and regret it.

However and it's a big however I do believe increasing blood flow AFTER releasing the tension would be a good thing to restore the follicle/matri.lx. it might be beneficial as obviously blood contains all the good stuff as well. I also think derma stamp and min would work a lot better without the tension.

All just hypothetical until the route cause is addressed though in my opinion
 

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@nimayazdani78 I made another quiz to see If you can differentiate. 5 of these men are balding and 5 aren't. Can you guess by looking at the facial structure?
 

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Rob Lowe is on finasteride, probably had transplants. He's another one who ridiculed Prince William's hair loss and his decision to not take finasteride.
 

justinbieberscombover

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Rob Lowe is on finasteride, probably had transplants. He's another one who ridiculed Prince William's hair loss and his decision to not take finasteride.
He also made fun of Prince Harry's bald spot.

In recent pics, Rob's hairline does look higher and thinner.

Finasteride is not recommended for men who are over the age of 60 and he's already 59.. his time has arrived.
 

justinbieberscombover

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Why not? The drug is also for enlarged prostate which is more common when you're 60+.
Some doctors say that on 60+ year old men, finasteride is not as effective in terms of hair maintenance, particularly on the frontal area. But it's probably not the same for everyone.
 

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He also made fun of Prince Harry's bald spot.

In recent pics, Rob's hairline does look higher and thinner.

Finasteride is not recommended for men who are over the age of 60 and he's already 59.. his time has arrived.
Health doesn't matter in Hollywood, the same place an actor can go from playing a 120lb concentration camp victim to a 200lb superhero in 6 months with the help of a secret sauce.

Rob Lowe would inject finasteride into his d1ck if it would help him keep his hair! That's how vain he is.

These guys have doctors who can do monthly bloodwork and adjust dosages.
 

BurningCoals

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Some doctors say that on 60+ year old men, finasteride is not as effective in terms of hair maintenance, particularly on the frontal area. But it's probably not the same for everyone.
Hmm, I see. Maybe it's because since as you get older your T and thus DHT levels have dropped and you still lose hair your hair is easier to be affected by DHT, thus finasteride isn't as effective anymore? I've heard finasteride in women isn't as effective and they have very low T, maybe it's the same logic? Idk, maybe I'm just saying broscience.
 

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@nimayazdani78 Here are the correct answers. Not so good this time but at least you got the most obvious ones.
 

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reckless

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Right.Karma.
No this is Karma! Here's his 30 year old son. I wonder if he ridicules his hair? Or pressurised him into taking finasteride?

Megan Markle and Catherine are also much better looking than Lowe's wife. He always gave me a 'batting for the other side' vibe.
 

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Renovation

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Ironically I believe this is one for the reasons some people refuse to accept their fate - as it's no easy fix.

Some also think it's BS but each to their own, like I said before the poll shows people are moving away from the ridiculous and industry programmed idea that some hair from some men in a very specific location are prone to shrinkage from predisposed hormones, when the blindingly obvious reason is staring them in the face.

This thread has gone to off topic though.

That's genuinely an interesting picture assuming it's AI generated? Serious question.
 

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Ironically I believe this is one for the reasons some people refuse to accept their fate - as it's no easy fix.

Some also think it's BS but each to their own, like I said before the poll shows people are moving away from the ridiculous and industry programmed idea that some hair from some men in a very specific location are prone to shrinkage from predisposed hormones, when the blindingly obvious reason is staring them in the face.

This thread has gone to off topic though.

That's genuinely an interesting picture assuming it's AI generated? Serious question.


As so often happens, I believe the "industry programmed idea" is simply the truth ;)

The picture is indeed AI generated, with GPT4. GPT4 can make way more specific images than Midjourney, and it's pretty great.
 
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