Caffeine 0.2% Topical Almost As Effective As minoxidil 5%?
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What norwood would you say you are at?
inmyhead
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I'm a diffuser. thinnning all over the scalp
Same here. I was hoping since i wasnt slick bald yet it may help strengthen the remaining hairs....
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Cant hurt. Just dont buy the alpecin product as you pay also the bribery money for the researchers.
Mix it yourself or buy alternative products, it is not like the got a patent on caffein...
If youre at it, maybe try to make a energy drink for your hair with caffein, taurin, green tea and guarana? at least taurine (fibrosis, tgf-b) and green tea(oxidative stress) have been associated with hair loss in the past and who knows
Mix it yourself or buy alternative products, it is not like the got a patent on caffein...
If youre at it, maybe try to make a energy drink for your hair with caffein, taurin, green tea and guarana? at least taurine (fibrosis, tgf-b) and green tea(oxidative stress) have been associated with hair loss in the past and who knows
Sure but none so far that state it is as good as minoxidil.
https://www.biznews.com/health/2015...ine-can-halt-hair-loss-says-german-scientist/
This is the same guy from the study saything that this does n't cause hair growth. It could slow down loss, but I'ill wager it's no minoxidil considering how many people already use this shampoo.
This is the same guy from the study saything that this does n't cause hair growth. It could slow down loss, but I'ill wager it's no minoxidil considering how many people already use this shampoo.
I also tried alpecin, both the shampoo and the liquid. I went through about 50-75% of the bottle. Didn't seem to do anything for me. Maybe I need to up the concentration of caffeine, but to be honest I felt a buzz. That scalp liquid was almost addictive as you could definitely feel it as it went into your scalp. I'd be afraid to add too much. Caffeine can cause serious issues in moderate doses. The only natural supplement (I haven't taken any pharmaceuticals) that worked was pumpkin seed oil + saw palmeto, and it gave me hormonal acne and I don't think I had any regrowth. Although I wish I hadn't stopped using it as I had almost completely stopped shedding while taking it. After stopping I lost another Norwood level in less than a year. FML. I was originally hoping to just last until Brotzu. FML. Now I'm too far gone for anything but a transplant or an actual breakthrough. FML FML FML.
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I've already pointed this out.
FCKW36
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Sorry my fault I didn't read your comment.
But I want to say it again, Dr. A. Klenk is working for the Dr. Wolff-Gruppe GmbH and one of the brands of the Dr. Wolff-Gruppe GmbH is Alpecin. The sponsor of this studie was also the Dr. Wolff-Gruppe GmbH.
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Well, there is some glimmer of hope for it, if you got a pgd2 inhibitor.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7529107
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10225544
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0161463079900776
So there seems to be some positive relation between pge2 and caffein possibly. But again, without pgd2 blocker we are driving with handbrake on.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7529107
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10225544
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0161463079900776
So there seems to be some positive relation between pge2 and caffein possibly. But again, without pgd2 blocker we are driving with handbrake on.
IMO zinc is the most important element here, I take oral zinc with minoxidil which I find to be a pretty potent. I'm sure you will get some results however mild but I find the claims that this is better than minoxidil just too suspect for my own liking.
My issue here is that combined with their sponsership of this study, these caffeine based shampoos have been out for years and if I remember correctly they used to say in TV advertising that a million customers used their product a month a Germany. The point being that with that large a number of users, if people where regaining hair from this we would have heard about it.
charlie76761
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Ha - hysterical. Thanks for calling out FCKW36, Mr_Robot.
No wonder this treatment hasnt become mainstream - it doesnt work.
If it did work, i think you could market it well as an alternative to minoxidil given dark eye circle sides from minoxidil (minoxidil powder is just as cheap as caff at wholesale prices, so I dont buy that a caff treatment wouldnt be produced as there is no margin).
Funny thing is that i have ordered 100g of caff plus egcg and going to use anyway - a sad reflection on the options available to us...!
