Caffeine 0.2% Topical Almost As Effective As minoxidil 5%?

[jonnywalker93]

What do you think about this ?
Alpecin Caffeine After Shampoo Liquid Hair Energizer, 200ml


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alpecin-Caffeine-Shampoo-Liquid-Energizer/dp/B001Q1E2RY

That's the one they used in the study, but I find it really hard to believe that over-the-counter stuff with such a small amount of caffeine does anything. Do you plan to give it a go and report back?

I'll trial the 5% solution posted earlier and let you guys know how it goes.

 

[ElTioLaBota]

Great work - going to add to my regime.

Skeptic in me does ask why a big pharma hasnt picked this up - some would have seen this so be interesting to know why.

Because amyone can buy cafeine dirt cheap and do this sh*t at home, pharma companies dont work to save baldies' asses, they work to make profit, if something works but it isnt profitable they wont exploit it.
Returning to the topic: i can see a f*****g topic getting release containing ethanol/pg and Zix, Ru58841, Cafeine, minoxidil, cetrizine and other stuff disolved on it.

 

[HairCook]

If coffein works, it will most likely work over PGE2. Dont use it together with minoxidil. And leave time between PGE1 enhancers like minoxidil and PGE2 coffein.

Dont use alpecin, there are cheap alternatives/ you can just get coffein power.

 

[mr_robot]

The test product, 0.2% caffeine solution, is marketed as Alpecin Liquid by Dr. Kurt Wolff and distributed by the study sponsor
Fullife Healthcare Pvt Ltd.

Color me skeptical that the study is sponsored by products distributor and the author is actually an employed by the manufacturer.

 

[hades1907]

Can someone please explain how to make the solution with caffeine 5% and Green tea extract with 50% egcg powders.

Thank you.

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

I'm desperate and ready to try this. Does anyone else think this is a good idea? I found caffine powder but in 10% form. Is it possible to get the 0.2% used in the study?

 

[champpy]

I'm desperate and ready to try this. Does anyone else think this is a good idea? I found caffine powder but in 10% form. Is it possible to get the 0.2% used in the study?

10% all the way. Go big or go home!!

 

[cocona]

10% all the way. Go big or go home!!

Just don't go over 1g/ day dosage of caffeine. The OD effects are bad and can include heart failure.

 

[goingMonky]

I have a lot of 200mg caffeine capsules. If I dissolve one in water, would that work as topical solution like the one said in the study?

 

[charlie76761]

If coffein works, it will most likely work over PGE2. Dont use it together with minoxidil. And leave time between PGE1 enhancers like minoxidil and PGE2 coffein.

Dont use alpecin, there are cheap alternatives/ you can just get coffein power.

Interesting point - can you pls give a bit more detail on why a bad idea to apply at the same time (I was planning to apply both together)? Thanks

 

[NimuDash]

Dhurat. This should be interesting.
Oh, wait a minute... caffeine?

 

[Bensson]

I wonder if it would work with solutions that have coffeine as ingredient and dermarolling/ mesotherapy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MESOTHERAP...394910?hash=item1a36ac0d1e:g:QNcAAOSwQm9Zxqje

https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-classics/caffeine?search_query=caffeine&results=6

 

[UberBaldaten]

I think Caffeine works because of it's effects on Adenosine receptors. It binds to adenosine in your body and blocks its receptors, increasing free circulating adenosine in bloodstream.

 

[NimuDash]

I think Caffeine works because of it's effects on Adenosine receptors. It binds to adenosine in your body and blocks its receptors, increasing free circulating adenosine in bloodstream.

I drink shitton of coffe, I think it has slowed down my loss somewhat.

 

[UberBaldaten]

I drink shitton of coffe, I think it has slowed down my loss somewhat.

I meant on local level why it might work. It probably doesn't even reach follicles when going systemic.

 

[champpy]

I have ordered caffeine capsules from GNC. Should arrive in a week. I will start with 1% topically, and will update.

Are you going to use ethanol/pg?

 

[champpy]

Ok my alepecin shampoo is on the way.
Im willing to mix and test a homemade topical too since this seems readily available to procure. If someone can post instructions on how much and what exactly to mix ill begin trialing too.
Thanks guys

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

I have ordered caffeine capsules from GNC. Should arrive in a week. I will start with 1% topically, and will update.

By 1% topically do you mean one 100mg pill? I want to try this too.

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

In this study, .2% would only be 2mg, which I mean, idk it sounds pretty small if you ask me.

Yeah it does, I wonder why they chose to use such a small amount.

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

https://www.amazon.com/Alpecin-ALPCAF-LIQ-Shampoo-Liquid/dp/B003M4N8M8



This is what was used in the study.

Really? a shampoo?

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

Thats a two part product - a shampoo and a liquid. They used the liquid, .2%, twice a day.

Well I find it hard to believe these results in the study, after looking online it seems like it's barley helped anyone. Seems like there was some hype around 2005 that died down and stayed gone. If it was as great as the study implied I think people would have figured it out ten years ago.