Big3 + Tretinoin

guybrush

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Amazing results! :)

A 3.3% ketoconazole lotion is absolutely crazzy... don't let this stuff get into your body, it can ruin your libido and your liver.

I agree that it is a very good antiandrogen though..
 

auscultate

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hi, great results! Just a question, when you did start on the propecia, did you have an initial shed? How long did it last for?

thanks!
 

JWM

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Didn't the tretinoin irritate your scalp? I would think living in Greece with all that sun could cause problems...
 

azyx

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auscultate said:
hi, great results! Just a question, when you did start on the propecia, did you have an initial shed? How long did it last for?

thanks!

Hello Auscultate!
I have a huge shed after a month on big3!
i lose around 300 hairs everyday between month 1 - month 2
when i applied aloe vera gel about 10-15 hairs found in may hands:(
After the second month on big3 the shed stopped!
now i lose very few hairs...
in the shower less than 10:)
when i apply aloe vera as hair styling gel sometimes found no hairs and some times 1-2 hairs:)
 

azyx

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JWM said:
Didn't the tretinoin irritate your scalp? I would think living in Greece with all that sun could cause problems...

Hello JWM!
I apply Tretinoin for more than 5 years on my face for acne!
So when i start to apply tretinoin on my temples i know how irritating is it an was very careful and do it every 2-3 days at the begining! without irritation:)
after a month i increase the dose!
now i can apply tretinoin 2 times without irritation as you can see in my pictures!
But at the begining you must leave your skin to adapt to tretinoin!
+ i apply tretinoin only at home (afternoon and night)
no sunlight seeing my skin:)
i never apply tretinoin On The Beach:)
 

azyx

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guybrush said:
Amazing results! :)


A 3.3% ketoconazole lotion is absolutely crazzy... don't let this stuff get into your body, it can ruin your libido and your liver.

I agree that it is a very good antiandrogen though..

Hello guybrush!
3.3% ketoconazole lotion is very strong and go systemically with low libido side effect!
now i use 1% ketoconazole lotion without sides!
but the dose is not equal for everbody!
i am 68kg
the bigger guys need bigger dose to see results and bigger dose to see side effects also!
 

JWM

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azyx said:
JWM said:
Didn't the tretinoin irritate your scalp? I would think living in Greece with all that sun could cause problems...

Hello JWM!
I apply Tretinoin for more than 5 years on my face for acne!
So when i start to apply tretinoin on my temples i know how irritating is it an was very careful and do it every 2-3 days at the begining! without irritation:)
after a month i increase the dose!
now i can apply tretinoin 2 times without irritation as you can see in my pictures!
But at the begining you must leave your skin to adapt to tretinoin!
+ i apply tretinoin only at home (afternoon and night)
no sunlight seeing my skin:)
i never apply tretinoin On The Beach:)

Thanks! Do you use a cream or a liquid Tretinoin?
 

azyx

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JWM said:
azyx said:
JWM said:
Didn't the tretinoin irritate your scalp? I would think living in Greece with all that sun could cause problems...

Hello JWM!
I apply Tretinoin for more than 5 years on my face for acne!
So when i start to apply tretinoin on my temples i know how irritating is it an was very careful and do it every 2-3 days at the begining! without irritation:)
after a month i increase the dose!
now i can apply tretinoin 2 times without irritation as you can see in my pictures!
But at the begining you must leave your skin to adapt to tretinoin!
+ i apply tretinoin only at home (afternoon and night)
no sunlight seeing my skin:)
i never apply tretinoin On The Beach:)

Thanks! Do you use a cream or a liquid Tretinoin?

i use cream 0.05% tretinoin!
the name is AiRoL and i buy it from local pharmacy!
but in the future i am planing to add treinoin to minoxidil lotion to make the regimen simplest.. coz its difficult to apply all this sh*t separately every day to my hair!
 

azyx

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Thank You zeroheat:)
i will trying to send pictures every month (good or bad)
and the changes in my regimen!!!
 

shaf

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Im doing a regimen slightly like yours:

0.025% finasteride
1% keto
5% minoxidil solution topically.

1 mg finasteride orally.

Also minoxidil 5% on temples in the morning, the other one at night. Im going to be using peptides, msm and multi vitamin to increase my results.
 

blink

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i say try it jwm, only because i know youll stick around the forums long enough to report back :woot:
 

azyx

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HEllo There:)
I have some update after 5.5 month:)
I have lowered the minoxidil+++ lotion applications rating to 1 time every 2 days!
http://andreaszam.blogspot.com/2010/02/my-results-19-feb-2010.html
some pics here (the hair are WET after the shower)
1.jpg

3.jpg

2.jpg
 

Liam

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The results look amazing so far, thank you for sharing your story with us. You seem to have the best growth in the temple regions I have seen so far!

I wanted to know more about the topical treatments you apply...as you use ketoconazole lotion in your regimen. This is a treatment I am going to start soon so wanted to have more info on it. Which brand do you use? Where and when do you apply the lotion? The feedback I have had so far is it can be messy to apply and may need to add water.

The forum thread is available here, that I started on this topic, I also mentioned your blog: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57626

Thanks again.
 

Hoppi

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Looks awesome man :)

Obviously when it's wet you can see some tiny thinner areas, but mostly... you wouldn't guess you have any kind of male pattern baldness at all, especially when it's dry :)
 

Anarch

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Is Airol just another brand of Retin-A ? I'm looking online for a non-prescribed version. I've been taking vitamin A for the past week or so.
 

Private Ryan

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hi, interested in adding keto pills to minoxidil too. but can i ask how to you know that the keto will still dissovle in the minoxidil since the solution is already quite "fill" with minoxidil.

could your reduction of effect from 3.3% keto lotion is due to both switching to 1% and using minoxidil 5% as base?

thanks.
 

Belmondo

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Greetings from Portugal.

Congratulations on your results and thank you for sharing them with us.

You said you're using a ketoconazole lotion, where did you get that?

I thought that tretinoin was only used to treat wrinkles, are there any studies on its effectiveness against hair loss?
 
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