Anyone Tried Methylene Blue? It Mimics Lllt, Inhibits Prolactin....

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aids aromatase, inhibits a broad spectrum of inflammatory cytokines, huge anti-oxidant, massively increases ATP and mitochondrial energy. its seems unbelievable in terms of its kitchen sink effects. anyone on this.

nuff said

just about the inflammation aspect

Methylene blue inhibits NLRP3, NLRC4, AIM2, and non-canonical inflammasome activation
"...In this study, we assessed the effect of methylene blue (MB) on canonical (NLRP3, NLRC4, and AIM2) and non-canonical inflammasome activation. We demonstrated that MB acts as an anti-inflammasome agent. Specifically, MB attenuated specific inflammasome trigger-mediated IL-1β/18 and caspase-1 secretion as well as Asc pyroptosome formation. MB also blocked mitochondrial ROS production, which triggers NLRP3 inflammasome activation, as well as NLRP3 and pro-IL-1β expression, which are essential components for inflammasome activation. In addition, MB attenuated activity of casaspe-1, which directly induces maturation of IL-1β/18. The anti-inflammasome properties of MB were further confirmed in an animal model. MB treatment reduced LPS-induced lethality and Listeria-mediated IL-1β secretion. Taken together, we suggest that MB can inhibit both the beginning and end of canonical and non-canonical inflammasome activation."

"...In the present study, MB treatment increased the survival rates of LPS-treated mice (Fig. 4A). Although we demonstrated the inhibitory effect of MB on NLRP3 and/or non-canonical inflammasome activation for reduction of LPS lethality, blockage of NO production by MB might support increased survival rates in septic mice. On the other hand, we hypothesized that NO increases IL-1β secretion via inflammasome activation. For this, we treated L-arginine, an endogenous NO precursor, to LPS-primed BMDMs and assessed IL-1β secretion. As the result, L-arginine did not induce any IL-1β secretion in LPS-primed BMDMs (Supplementary Fig. 3). Thus, we conclude that MB attenuates inflammasome activation independent of NO production."

"...MB is an oxidation-reduction (redox) agent previously used safely in humans as an antidote for certain metabolic poisons1 . In addition, MB prevents the formation of superoxide and nitric oxide in mitochondria and is able to improve brain oxidative metabolism by enhancing mitochondrial oxygen consumption1 . In animal studies, MB counteracts the damaging effect of rotenone, an inhibitor of the mitochondrial electron transfer complex I, on retinal neurons24. Thus, MB is suggested as a potential therapeutic target for mitochondrial dysfunction. Mitochondrial dysfunction plays a determinant role in a number of acute and chronic inflammatory diseases25. Mitochondrial dysfunction acts upstream of NLRP3 activation by providing ROS to trigger NLRP3 oligomerization or by inducing α-tubulin acetylation to relocate mitochondria in proximity to NLRP314,26. Based on our results and previous reports, we conclude that MB attenuates inflammasome activation by improving mitochondrial function."

"...Inflammasome dysregulation has been implicated in neurologic disorders and metabolic diseases, neither of which are traditionally considered to be inflammatory diseases but which are increasingly recognized as having an inflammatory component that significantly contributes to the disease process and drives many forms of cancer in humans5 . Therefore, researchers have become interested in the regulation of inflammasome activation. So far, several reagents such as recombinant IL-1 receptor antagonist (anakinra), neutralizing IL-1β antibody (canakinumab), soluble decoy IL-1 receptor (rilonacept), IL-18–binding protein, soluble IL-18 receptors, and anti–IL-18 receptor monoclonal antibodies have been developed and applied to control inflammasome-mediated diseases5 . These reagents only control events downstream of inflammasome activation such as blockage of IL-1β/-18 signaling. However, we have attempted to screen natural compounds that selectively control events upstream of inflammasome activation32–38. Based on our finding, MB has the most wide range of anti-inflammasome agents and controls several events upstream of inflammasome activation. Specifically, MB blocks the NLRP3, NLRC4, and AIM2 inflammasomes as well as non-canonical inflammasome. In addition, MB attenuates crystal phagocytosis, the priming step of inflammasome activation, Asc speck formation, and caspse-1 activation."
 

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Did you come here from Ray Peat forum ? Just wondering...

I might try this.

BTW, red light is f*****g amazing. Shame it's not strong enough for male pattern baldness on its own.

Pro- and anti-inflammatory cytokine content in human peripheral blood after its transcutaneous (in vivo) and direct (in vitro) irradiation with polychromatic visible and infrared light.
METHODS:

The sacral area of volunteers was exposed (480-3400 nm, 95% polarization, 12 J/cm(2)); in parallel, the blood samples of the same subjects were irradiated in vitro (2.4 J/cm(2)). Determination of cytokine content was performed using enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA).
RESULTS:

A dramatic decrease in the level of pro-inflammatory cytokines TNF-alpha, IL-6, and IFN-gamma was revealed: at 0.5 h after exposure of volunteers (with the initial parameters exceeding the norm), the cytokine contents fell, on average, 34, 12, and 1.5 times. The reduced concentrations of TNF-alpha and IL-6 were preserved after four daily exposures, whereas levels of IFN-gamma and IL-12 decreased five and 15 times. At 0.5 h and at later times, the amount of anti-inflammatory cytokines was found to rise: that of IL-10 rose 2.7-3.5 times (in subjects with normal initial parameters) and of TGF-beta1 1.4-1.5 times (in the cases of its decreased level). A peculiarity of the light effect was a fast rise of IFN-gamma at 3.3-4.0 times in subjects with normal initial values. The content of IL-1beta, IL-2, IFN-alpha, and IL-4 did not change. Similar regularities of the light effects were recorded after in vitro irradiation of blood, as well as on mixing the irradiated and non-irradiated autologous blood at a volume ratio 1:10 (i.e., at modeling the events in a vascular bed of the exposed person when a small amount of the transcutaneously photomodified blood contacts its main circulating volume).]

That is just one study, there are hundreds. And if you wonder how this relates to hair loss...


https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...e-one-of-the-factors-involved-in-the-p.66428/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X15354427
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11069516

Estrogen, which is one of the most successful treatments against male pattern baldness currently available, inhibits IL-6:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC146754/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7651415
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9712363
etc.

Put the pieces together. DHT, Estrogen, Inflammation, Anti-Inflammation, Immune System. The puzzle is more complex than just one part, but it all fits together very nicely - the missing piece is only genetics, which we don't know very much about yet.
 
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I read sometime ago, it has powerful antiaging effects and some are taking it orally, but there are side effects I think that were great concern.
 

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(I'll see if I can find the info, can't remember the details right now)
 

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Awesome! I can't wait to buy my $800 blue light laser helmet.

The only LED/Laser devices that are worth a damn for hair loss would be either a high powered INFRARED LED array, such as this one:

https://redlightman.com/product/infrared-light-device-mini/ (personally used this one and maintained for over a month and a little bit of regrowth, but it won't stand up to aggressive hair loss on its own)
STUDIES: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048721

OR

A wide-spectrum light like this that includes both short and long wavelength light:
http://zepter-lb.com/product/Bioptron-Compact-III
STUDY:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28418107
(and the one I posted above uses the earlier generation device to lower inflammatory markers in the blood)


Forget about all the HairMax, iGrow, iHelmet, and iBullshit products. Wrong wavelengths, too weak, spaced too far apart, etc.
 

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The only LED/Laser devices that are worth a damn for hair loss would be either a high powered INFRARED LED array, such as this one:

https://redlightman.com/product/infrared-light-device-mini/ (personally used this one and maintained for over a month and a little bit of regrowth, but it won't stand up to aggressive hair loss on its own)
STUDIES: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048721

OR

A wide-spectrum light like this that includes both short and long wavelength light:
http://zepter-lb.com/product/Bioptron-Compact-III
STUDY:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28418107
(and the one I posted above uses the earlier generation device to lower inflammatory markers in the blood)


Forget about all the HairMax, iGrow, iHelmet, and iBullshit products. Wrong wavelengths, too weak, spaced too far apart, etc.
why would you pay such an amount for this little device when you can go for this $1000 norwood 0 maker.

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thats what people pay for when they go for led with their dermatologist in order to save their hairs. this machine actually costs the treatment they pay for .. Wave length of your choice
 

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thats what people pay for when they go for led with their dermatologist in order to save their hairs. this machine actually costs the treatment they pay for .. Wave length of your choice

Neat, I'd love to play with that. Do you know the name of such a machine ?
 

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I read into this ages ago because it has the ability to inhibit glucocorticoids from binding to their receptor and therefore reduces overall cortisol BUT can have a negative feedback reaction and elevate cortisol levels. I was researching ways to go about medically altering my f*****g sky high cortisol production. I was on a forum where people raved about how great it made them feel. Interesting that it’s now cropped up here. I considered buying the fish stuff from eBay but borked at it because it’s blue dye after all.
 

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Did you come here from Ray Peat forum ? Just wondering...

I might try this.

BTW, red light is f*****g amazing. Shame it's not strong enough for male pattern baldness on its own.

Pro- and anti-inflammatory cytokine content in human peripheral blood after its transcutaneous (in vivo) and direct (in vitro) irradiation with polychromatic visible and infrared light.
METHODS:

The sacral area of volunteers was exposed (480-3400 nm, 95% polarization, 12 J/cm(2)); in parallel, the blood samples of the same subjects were irradiated in vitro (2.4 J/cm(2)). Determination of cytokine content was performed using enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA).
RESULTS:

A dramatic decrease in the level of pro-inflammatory cytokines TNF-alpha, IL-6, and IFN-gamma was revealed: at 0.5 h after exposure of volunteers (with the initial parameters exceeding the norm), the cytokine contents fell, on average, 34, 12, and 1.5 times. The reduced concentrations of TNF-alpha and IL-6 were preserved after four daily exposures, whereas levels of IFN-gamma and IL-12 decreased five and 15 times. At 0.5 h and at later times, the amount of anti-inflammatory cytokines was found to rise: that of IL-10 rose 2.7-3.5 times (in subjects with normal initial parameters) and of TGF-beta1 1.4-1.5 times (in the cases of its decreased level). A peculiarity of the light effect was a fast rise of IFN-gamma at 3.3-4.0 times in subjects with normal initial values. The content of IL-1beta, IL-2, IFN-alpha, and IL-4 did not change. Similar regularities of the light effects were recorded after in vitro irradiation of blood, as well as on mixing the irradiated and non-irradiated autologous blood at a volume ratio 1:10 (i.e., at modeling the events in a vascular bed of the exposed person when a small amount of the transcutaneously photomodified blood contacts its main circulating volume).]

That is just one study, there are hundreds. And if you wonder how this relates to hair loss...


https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...e-one-of-the-factors-involved-in-the-p.66428/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X15354427
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11069516

Estrogen, which is one of the most successful treatments against male pattern baldness currently available, inhibits IL-6:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC146754/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7651415
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9712363
etc.

Put the pieces together. DHT, Estrogen, Inflammation, Anti-Inflammation, Immune System. The puzzle is more complex than just one part, but it all fits together very nicely - the missing piece is only genetics, which we don't know very much about yet.
I think the HPA axis and all its derivatives play a vital role. We already know that stress responses cause shifts in hair follicle regeneration. We also know they stress/cortisol unregulates androgen production, inhibits normal testosterone and estrogen production, fucks with your immune system by lowering it, but causes localised reflex inflammatory responses like in the skin and hair, where you are left with no immunity to fight it, inadequate estrogenic activity to protect against hairloss, and a sh*t load of androgens just to set the whole thing alight. Then you’re stuck in a fucked cycle of impaired growth factors, hormones, immunity and alternatively, reflex inflammation from prolonged stress exposure.
Thats why the whole Astressinb thing was so important and quite a vital piece of the puzzle. It’s why I have been researching cortisol and Its many functions relating to hair growth. Wish they’d hurry up and make a legit treatment using it.

Anyway, the dudes On this forum I visited were taking 1mg of MB a day or something
 
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@Georgie I think you can have problem with way higer dose(even though these doses are good for some conditions according to other studies). I read different forums where indeed people were taking 0,5/1Mg had good results(they said) others had light side effects immediately . After a while you have saturation anyway and they take a maintenance dose. Btw about hormones levels etc... in any case you can't get caught by surprise if you keep an eye on the changes in your routine and keep an eye on blood test. I write everything in excel Doctor
 

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@Georgie I think you can have problem with way higer dose(even though these doses are good for some conditions according to other studies). I read different forums where indeed people were taking 0,5/1Mg had good results(they said) others had light side effects immediately . After a while you have saturation anyway and they take a maintenance dose. Btw about hormones levels etc... in any case you can't get caught by surprise if you keep an eye on the changes in your routine and keep an eye on blood test. I write everything in excel Doctor
I heard that the higher doses can cause issues, and I felt almost compelled to try it if I hadn’t read that it can interrupt estrogen levels through systemic increase in cortisol via negative feedback from the initial decrease. I’d love to see some studies which suggest it’s usefulness in things relating to, or even specifically hairloss, but there isn’t much out there just yet. I can’t afford to take a gamble with my cortisol or my estrogen because it’s what caused my hairloss in the first place. Very interested to see if other members are going to try it though.

Yeah I get bloods done fairly often. Last 2 showed low-normal test levels even on daily avodart. DHEAS normal. I find out what my dht levels are doing on Monday.
 

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I think the HPA axis and all its derivatives play a vital role. We already know that stress responses cause shifts in hair follicle regeneration. We also know they stress/cortisol unregulates androgen production, inhibits normal testosterone and estrogen production, fucks with your immune system by lowering it, but causes localised reflex inflammatory responses like in the skin and hair, where you are left with no immunity to fight it, inadequate estrogenic activity to protect against hairloss, and a sh*t load of androgens just to set the whole thing alight. Then you’re stuck in a fucked cycle of impaired growth factors, hormones, immunity and alternatively, reflex inflammation from prolonged stress exposure.
Thats why the whole Astressinb thing was so important and quite a vital piece of the puzzle. It’s why I have been researching cortisol and Its many functions relating to hair growth. Wish they’d hurry up and make a legit treatment using it.

Anyway, the dudes On this forum I visited were taking 1mg of MB a day or something

Georgie, I see you have a keen interest in this. Dr. James LaValle is a top authority on such metabolic actions. You can check youtube and internet for further interest. I think he was in the process of updating his book, Cracking the Metabolic Code. I have no affiliation with him, just have attended a few of his lectures.
 

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Georgie, I see you have a keen interest in this. Dr. James LaValle is a top authority on such metabolic actions. You can check youtube and internet for further interest. I think he was in the process of updating his book, Cracking the Metabolic Code. I have no affiliation with him, just have attended a few of his lectures.
Cheers mate I’ll have a look! ‘Preciate it. I am very interested indeed. I suppose we are all intetested in decoding our bodies metabolic fuckery.
 
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