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Anyone on here into programming? What languages / OS ?
ali777 said:I don't believe in "freedom". It's just an alternative marketing strategy, where the software is given away for free but the services cost money. Besides, most of the "free" stuff is annoyingly under documented. Sometimes it's more cost effective to use proprietary software.
Freedom Coder said:ali777, also, why does your signature reference a "linux" machine? Don't you mean GNU/Linux machine?
cuebald said:I think you've listened to a bit too much Stallman videos, mate (or should I say, "rms")
cuebald said:Free Software is documented a lot better than proprietry software imo.
IRC channels and Forums have answered my questions very well (they only badmouth idiots).
Paid support will always find some bullshit ("This is not part of your contract sir. You must pay extra for this support.")
Ever seen any code or manpages for any Windows apps?
Freedom Coder said:To be fair though, proprietary software doesn't even give you access to the source, so it's apples and oranges.
ali777 said:Ah yes.. the false economy of open source. Your boss thinks why pay for a product while it's available for free, or why develop something from scratch while another program can be modified....
ali777 said:You have to understand that "open source" is mostly about a cooperating community. Companies like IBM, Google, etc benefit from open source tools and in return they pump money into it. So, it is a community that cooperates and GETS PAID FOR ITS EFFORTS... There is a commercial model to it.
ali777 said:Besides, there is no freedom of speech. Big companies modify and use open source everyday, but they only release parts of the code that is not going to harm their financial income.
Freedom Coder said:ali777, what kind of an engineer are you, and do you get to do interesting programming?
Freedom Coder said:ali777 said:You have to understand that "open source" is mostly about a cooperating community. Companies like IBM, Google, etc benefit from open source tools and in return they pump money into it. So, it is a community that cooperates and GETS PAID FOR ITS EFFORTS... There is a commercial model to it.
The VAST, VAST majority of FS developers do not make a dime off of it.
barcafan said:I like programming (I'm probably going to get ripped on by saying this) in autoit http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/index.shtml.
It isnt really programming per se, but my motto is i like to get sh*t DONE, and this wonderful language lets me get it done in a pretty efficient way if i put time into it.
I love automation
barcafan said:Well perhaps its just because i dont have any real 'love' for programming, i just find the path of least resistance for what im exploiting at the current moment. Autoit3 is it for me. I couldn't really tell you what program i need at the moment because its how i make my living
ali777 said:The VAST, VAST majority of FS developers do not produce code worth using...
ali777 said:For example, you said why don't I use octave. The original development of octave started in an academic environment, thus it was paid for by the American tax payer.
ali777 said:Freedom Coder said:ali777, what kind of an engineer are you, and do you get to do interesting programming?
it's boring stuff... i'm doing OO D and P. I don't like software development, it's boring. I like maths and algorithms. I wanted to know more about software, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.