Androgen Blockers other than RU
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grove12345
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i would love to get on RU. But i havent heard any regrowth stories. Only stories of if they quit hair falls out.
Plus i dont even know how to order. Its an asian website somewhere and shipping is like $100. Sometimes it takes months to get your order.
If it was simplier i think i would get on RU
Plus i dont even know how to order. Its an asian website somewhere and shipping is like $100. Sometimes it takes months to get your order.
If it was simplier i think i would get on RU
Loolapalooza
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Kero said:
And Azelaic acid.
What the hell is RU????
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For simplicity, I'm combining responses to the other posters in this thread into one reply:
1) Azelaic acid isn't an "androgen blocker". Dr. Lee has claimed that it works as a topical 5a-reductase inhibitor (lowering the conversion of testosterone into DHT), but there isn't any scientific evidence that it works that way in vivo.
2) "RU" is the common abbreviation on hairloss sites for RU58841, an experimental drug developed in 1994 by a French company. It may be the most effective topical antiandrogen (androgen receptor blocker) ever developed. It's not normally obtainable, except through some rather dodgy Chinese companies. It's expensive, and difficult to obtain.
3) There is no scientific evidence I'm aware of (other than a small experiment by an Israeli scientist, which I don't fully trust) that topical flutamide has any antiandrogenic effect where locally applied. To be sure, experiments with laboratory animals (hamsters, rats, and mice) have shown a general (systemic) antiandrogenic effect, but that's because of systemic absorption of the drug. There doesn't seem to be any local effect just where it's physically applied.
1) Azelaic acid isn't an "androgen blocker". Dr. Lee has claimed that it works as a topical 5a-reductase inhibitor (lowering the conversion of testosterone into DHT), but there isn't any scientific evidence that it works that way in vivo.
2) "RU" is the common abbreviation on hairloss sites for RU58841, an experimental drug developed in 1994 by a French company. It may be the most effective topical antiandrogen (androgen receptor blocker) ever developed. It's not normally obtainable, except through some rather dodgy Chinese companies. It's expensive, and difficult to obtain.
3) There is no scientific evidence I'm aware of (other than a small experiment by an Israeli scientist, which I don't fully trust) that topical flutamide has any antiandrogenic effect where locally applied. To be sure, experiments with laboratory animals (hamsters, rats, and mice) have shown a general (systemic) antiandrogenic effect, but that's because of systemic absorption of the drug. There doesn't seem to be any local effect just where it's physically applied.
I'd use RU.. but Im so fkn confused on how to handle it. Mix it everyday? (what a b**ch).. Mix it every week?... Can I mix it with Minoxidil?
Also I just got a batch from Faith Eagle.. they made me wait 1.5 months for the next production! even though people recieved theirs PRIOR.. like WTF? and when it arrived.. its white with small rocky particles in it.. Contaminated?
Fkn Faith Eagle... anywhere else that ppl swear by I can buy this stuff?
Also I just got a batch from Faith Eagle.. they made me wait 1.5 months for the next production! even though people recieved theirs PRIOR.. like WTF? and when it arrived.. its white with small rocky particles in it.. Contaminated?
Fkn Faith Eagle... anywhere else that ppl swear by I can buy this stuff?
el_duterino
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FE have a quality problem..I ordered many batches from them and some are more pure than others. There is a better supplier now, Kouting.
I use their powder and it work great, dissolves perfectly as it should.. alot better than FE.
I use their powder and it work great, dissolves perfectly as it should.. alot better than FE.
GeminiX
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I take Androcur (Cyproterone acetate) which is about the strongest anti-androgen available though it is not approved in all countries.
Androcur is a very nasty drug and the side effects are not for the faint hearted; I believe it has been a very important part of my regimen however.
Androcur is a very nasty drug and the side effects are not for the faint hearted; I believe it has been a very important part of my regimen however.
OverMachoGrande
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Blaze has been a great contributing member here for years and is not associated with FE. That I can assure you. 
Carry on...
Carry on...
blaze
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thank you propeciajunkie.
empirical, where/when did I get defensive about FE???
Faith Eagle are very unreliable in regards to the quality of their RU. Sometimes it doesnt even dissolve. I have read alot about RU.
I have been here a lot longer than you tossa, and many here will vouch for my legitimacy.
empirical, where/when did I get defensive about FE???
Faith Eagle are very unreliable in regards to the quality of their RU. Sometimes it doesnt even dissolve. I have read alot about RU.
I have been here a lot longer than you tossa, and many here will vouch for my legitimacy.
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Bryan said:
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Eucapil works for me, but the vials they come in have a consistency problem imho. A box comes with a plastic applicator, which when working works great. However, because the plastic cap/applicator has to slide over the neck of a vial, it splits when one is too large.
But the product works for me, for certain.
But the product works for me, for certain.