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Am I Going Bald At 19 Or Is It A Mature Hairline?

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  1. bb16043

    bb16043 New Member My Regimen

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    FD187176-BF95-404C-80C0-68DA9F2B48AF.jpeg 641D0FDE-2CDA-433E-810D-C216D00A4129.jpeg Starting to get very concerned about my hairline just want an honest opinion on what you think is happening to my hair and what I could do to reverse it. In the pics I pulled my hair to the side and this is what I see
     
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    Obviously bald.
     
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    NimuDash Established Member My Regimen

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    This is how my hair loss started. Yup, 100% balding and don't ever think that it's mature hairline, because in 2 years you can turn into a NW4.
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Kinda hard to tell for that photo, cause you don't have high hairline, but looks like thining. Is your father bald ? any brother ?
     
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    MomoGee Experienced Member My Regimen

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    You are the best judge of that cause it can be either.

    Just look at your family baldness history, that's the closest answer you will find.
     
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    amazed at the "expert" advice being given here (especially "is your father bald?"). We know hairloss is multifactorial, but it's mostly passed down the line from your mother. Therefore it would help to know whether your mother's brothers are bald, and yes, if any of your brothers is balding as well. Then baldness runs in your family. But if you dont have any uncles (from your mothers side) and your brothers have thick hair, it can be that your brothers are lucky to not have gotten the hair loss gene from your mother, while you did. You also might be developing a mature hairline, your age is ripe for that. But people's mature hairlines look different. There's no way to know for sure whether you are balding. This is the frank and sad news for you.

    Now..
    The only way to stop balding at the moment is propecia. I started balding at your age. I tried propecia for a year but it gave me brain fog. I just started medical school back then and the effects from the fog were obvious. It took 1,5 years to get rid of the efects. Or maybe what I'm writing is bullcrap and it wasnt the propecia that gave me brain fog. We'll never know. Anyways my hair kept thinning, I'm NW4 now at 24 but I'm fine with it. If I could choose again, I wouldn't go for the hormonal stuff that young. You still have a developing body. But if you feel like you are getting an adjustment disorder/depression, then you might want to try the medication just so that you could tell yourself one day that you tried everything in your power. IMO it's not worth losing libido and brain power, especially at that age.

    I've had some cycles in andrology now and the leading expert in my country says there is a good predictor whether propecia would have an efect on your libido and that's testosterone levels. It's for your peace of mind if you decide to go for propecia. The reference range (normal value) of testosterone is quite wide but it's more towards the higher end for people your age, like 75-90%+ of the reference range. If you have high testosterone, chances you lose your libido are smaller.

    Checking this forum every once in a while. I hope this post helps you a bit.
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Jesus, Really ? do you think that if your father go bald you will not go bald ? cause it from your mother side ? Lol. My granpa from my mom had great hair till his 70s. My dad goes norwood 6 before 30s. I started big receding on 17th. That of " it came from your mommy side " it is extremely old theories and did not even bother to look around.

    DHT is the stronger male hormone in the body. Suppress 70 % of your main male hormone will cause side effects and a massive imbalance in your body. The one who control Estrogen, the Ying/yang relation is DHT/estrogen , not Testosterone/estrogen. Some get low libido, others ED, other imposible to get an orgasm or take forever, etc. Sooner or later your body crash, your estrogen go to high, your testosterone low, your progesterone to none existing, etc. That is the mess that a drug approved more than 20 years ago cause in a male body.

    When your body sence the massive drop in the main male hormone in the body, it will try everything to stop that, from increasing cholesterol, to decrease progesterone, etc, etc, etc . Yep, Merck never told you that.

    What is worst, 5-apha reductase also works in many other reaction in the human body, for example, to create neurohormones.

    Instead of attacks others, better read more pubmed and less bushit from your teacher.
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Experienced Member My Regimen

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    " lucky to not have gotten the hair loss gene from your mother"

    Really, dude, from where do you get your medicine class ? back in the 1960s ? There are dozen, if not hundres , of genes that are involved on the male pattern baldness. There is not such a think like THE Baldness gene.
     
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    Jeez, people are still spouting this unproven nonsense?
     
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    Any advice for someone who takes ages in bed to get an orgasm?
     
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    rclark Senior Member My Regimen

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    I definitely think something going on at the temple area. Specifically the left one. It is rather
    far back.
     
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    Don't masturbate. Stop watching all forms of pornography. Take a zinc pill every day. This is just entry level but helps most.
     
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    I am in the same boat than you. Are you still on finasteride ? I was on finasteride for 4 years and then 15 years on dutasteride. Just stopped 5 month ago . To increase my testo : Aromasin + Boron citrate + ashwagandha . This have increase my T levels and my Libido, however, I still have problem to reach and orgasm in bed ( was always a problem on me since I started with Finasteride, same with Duta ) . I hear that Horny goat can help, guess will be the next thing to add . If you know of anything else, please advice.
     
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    jamesbooker1975 Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Yep, incredible. If your father is bald, or tall or with a big nose, you will have more chances to get that than if any other relative have it. Wonder, the asshole that " created " that theory, why he or she never took the time to interview a couple of bald persons. Almost all the persons I know that are in their 30s and have great hair, they fathers are in their 60, 70s, and still have great amount of hair. Is is extremely rare to find a bald young men whos father have tons of hair, most probably got bald almost at the same age that his son.
     
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    Yes, i'm still on finasteride, i've only been on it for 2months. What im going to do is take a zinc pill everyday, as the previous poster said, (i dont masturbate much so no problem there) and just try to be hornier when having sex, thats it.
     
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    A maturing hairline is a part of male pattern baldness in any case. The difference is that a maturing hairline usually involves recession at the temples and sometimes slight recession at the front, making your forehead slightly bigger - and then nothing. That's the difference. You recede to a certain amount (sometimes this happens fast) and then you start checking your hair every 3-6 months without finding any progression. Now, whether your hair is going to stay that way or start receding again further down the line, that's up to your genes. Ewan McGregor and George Bush Sr. are examples of people whose hairlines matured without experiencing any further hairloss.

    The difference between actively balding and getting a maturing hairline is that the balding stops at a certain point when your hairline matures, whereas actively balding means you'll continue losing your hair without any break.
     
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    It will get worst with time. I doubt zinc will make any different, but , ofcourse, give it a try.
    There are two problems with the Libido and Finasteride :

    1) The 70% reduction of DHT per se. DHT gel is even use it as treatment for person with low DHT, cause the low DHT per se can cause ED, low libido, imposible or extremly hard to get and orgasm , etc

    2) The estrogen. Is not that just the 20 % more estrogen that Merk told us. DHT and Estradiol are like the Ying/Yang , works in a perfect harmony. In non finasteride/Dutasteride users, health person, when one goes up the other goes up and vivecersa . So, is you suppress one, one hormone will be the predominant over the other and so the effects. So, to do it " right " you should at least suppress estrogens in the same % you are suppressing the DHT . "High " estrogens in males will also cause you sexual troubles, predominant Estrogen over DHT will give you sexual troubles.

    The main problem with Propecia, is that was approve more than 20 years ago, with information of more than 25 years ago. It is too old, too outdated.
    The only way is the topical way : Spironolactone, ketoconazole, minoxidil, alphaestradiol, Cetirizine, etc ,etc . Even progesterone at low dose will give you less side effects than propecia.

    I am 5 month out since my last avodart caps, and I am loving it . Also I am keeping my hair since the topical route and waiting for Fevipiprant next year. Don't mess with your sexual life, you will regret it . A good sexual life is far more important than hair, I did learn it by the hard way ;)
     
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    Bro i have a good sexual life, but the thing is that it takes me much more time to cum, i dont see why girls wont like this since like this they'll cum multiple times before me, but at the end im exhausted.
    I'm going to be honest with you i dont like fucking with my hormones but its the only thing i can do, my hairloss is pretry agressive and i just want to maintain what i have until a new treatment comes. (Aka never).
    Tell me more about your topical regimen pls
     
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    Mine is aggressive too. Keep in mind that By the age of 17th I was receding pretty fast. And now, When I see photos, I can see that by the age of 15 I was already receding.
    I did used a tons of things during this 20 years, even oral spironolactone ! ( big mistake ) . I am telling you that you can keep your hair without fucking your systemic DHT. Right now I use all this ( topical )
    At night ( I apply one lotion, then after 30 minutes other and then after another 30 minutes the cream ) :
    MInoxidil plus ketoconazeole lotion ( Compound it in a local pharmacy )
    Alphaestradiol lotion ( Pantostim or Avixis, you can get it on ebay )
    Spironolactone cream

    During the day :
    Cetirizine 1 % drops . I apply it during the day and let it for at least 4 hours before I wash it up .

    Check what you can get, and we will see how to make a " combo " .
     
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    If zinc deficiency contributes to hair loss ,than it could be a factor with you. Look at your fingernails in the second pic.
     

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