A New Year, Please Help Me Define A Regime

[freak]

Well, that is an option for him after trying the full dose for a brief period of time.
First, stick with the dose that the majority of us take. Know you can always lower it and test the results.
Right now though you want the full fighting power working on those diffused spots of yours.

If I was to consider finasteride I would do so from the lowest dose. The avoidance of side effects is priority over keeping hair.

 

[Alk]

If I was to consider finasteride I would do so from the lowest dose. The avoidance of side effects is priority over keeping hair.

Take a look at my microdosing thread then, might help if you consider it.

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...ng-finasteride-today-tracking-results.101560/

 

[JeanLucBB]

Even with a kitchen sink routine attacking every angle I would use 0.15 mg of finasteride so 1/8th of a pill.

0.125mg finasteride
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/64-128-D...hash=item4d4d8e36b4:m:mbj1fT8rCqfSQ0oP2X7G7Wg
Pura D'or Gold
Nizoral 2%
Lipogaine Sensitive
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Obviously price is an issue but if you were using all of that you could be 95% sure you'd have good results and potentially significant regrowth. I would definitely say go get a script for finasteride and talk to a doctor about it though. You'll be soothed by it and even on a miniature microdose you'll feel better about attacking the source of your hairloss problem and knowing you're fixing it.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Well, that is an option for him after trying the full dose for a brief period of time.
First, stick with the dose that the majority of us take. Know you can always lower it and test the results.
Right now though you want the full fighting power working on those diffused spots of yours.

EDIT: Sorry for contributing to the clutter, OP. I will stop posting. Just know that you must start taking Finasteride if you want to do anything meaningful to stop/restore the current hair loss that you have.
That means calling your family doctor/dermatologist and getting them to write up a prescription ASAP [if not, ask for help on here in finding a reputable online source that sell generics without a prescription]. Whether you decide on micro-dosing or taking the full recommended dose if up to you.. the most important part is having those Finasteride pills accessible to you and taking them.

Last post in this thread.

OP.. best of luck to you.

I will repeat myself for the millionth time.. I WISH I TOOK FINASTERIDE SOONER THAN I DID.
Now go out there and TRY IT...

I WISH I TOOK FINASTERIDE SOONER THAN I DID.

And I second that.

 

[wintop6211]

Big 3 (Finasteride + Minoxdil + Nizoral) is your best bet.

 

[freak]

I'm going to make an appointment with my GP to discuss finasteride.

I do think this is my last chance to use it if I am going to, any more receding and thinning I doubt I could recover from.

 

[JeanLucBB]

I'm going to make an appointment with my GP to discuss finasteride.

I do think this is my last chance to use it if I am going to, any more receding and thinning I doubt I could recover from.

To be honest if I were you I'd probably think about a transplant for the front too. Your donor area looks good and you could probably get back to a juvenile hairline with 2500 grafts. The crown and top are far easier to maintain and grow back indefinitely on other treatments and in that case you could probably ditch the finasteride entirely for some a bunch of naturals like saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, grape seed oil and nettle root. In the mean time I would definitely try microdosing the finasteride. If you cut a generic finasteride tablet into 1/8ths it's literally like $20 a year so you haven't wasted much if you don't cope with it.

Obviously $ becomes a pain with this sort of thing but there are a million ways to approach your case with success + you still have enough hair that you'll probably respond well to treatments.

 

[freak]

To be honest if I were you I'd probably think about a transplant for the front too. Your donor area looks good and you could probably get back to a juvenile hairline with 2500 grafts. The crown and top are far easier to maintain and grow back indefinitely on other treatments and in that case you could probably ditch the finasteride entirely for some a bunch of naturals like saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, grape seed oil and nettle root. In the mean time I would definitely try microdosing the finasteride. If you cut a generic finasteride tablet into 1/8ths it's literally like $20 a year so you haven't wasted much if you don't cope with it.

Obviously $ becomes a pain with this sort of thing but there are a million ways to approach your case with success + you still have enough hair that you'll probably respond well to treatments.

How do you go about cutting a small pill into eighths?

edit: wait isn't 0.25mg a quarter..

 

[JeanLucBB]

How do you go about cutting a small pill into eighths?

I just use a standard pill cutter. Takes a bit of fiddling but can do it relatively accurately in a few minutes. When I first tried finasteride on my second attempt it's what I did. I quickly ended up on 0.25 anyway.

 

[Dsport]

Transplant sounds good.

But get ahead of the curve.

You already have significant loss.

Fix the front now if you have the donor.

Hi so want to finally put some effort into tackling my hair thinning. I think there's potential for some of it to be saved, but its at a point now where I need to do something about it.

I'm seriously considering hair transplantation. I have no interest in taking finasteride because of the gastly side effects, I just don't want to do that to myself and I know how sensitive my body is to chemicals so feel like i'd be very susceptible.

Current regime
I have been using Nizoral for quite a while now consistently, trying not to overdo it just 2-3 times a week tops, its helped with my itchy scalp and dandruff problem a lot that I used to have. I have also been consistently using a Nioxin shampoo and conditioner - after which my hair feels pretty nice and sometimes does look thicker but I wouldn't say it has done much else for me.

I used Minoxidil for about a month once and didn't see much change, basically forgot to order a next bottle and then fell off the wagon with it.

Please help me define a new regime? From this site what I can gather is in my circumstance I would use an S5 Cream to block DHT, then use Minoxidil again to aid regrowth, and then does the Nizoral act as the anti-inflammatory?

What about shampoo and conditioner? I've read some stuff and tend to lean toward products that are of simple organic ingredients with as few chemicals as possible. I often come across saw palmetto is this needed? What about argan oil?

I feel like I need to give a good regime a go and maybe look to have a hair transplant later in the year. I'm 26 years old and here's some photos of what I'm working with (dry hair taken today):
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I've kind of purposefully taken the photos when it looks real bad, unstyled, roughed up to stand up and dry etc

Happy new year and thank you in advance

 

[freak]

I just use a standard pill cutter. Takes a bit of fiddling but can do it relatively accurately in a few minutes. When I first tried finasteride on my second attempt it's what I did. I quickly ended up on 0.25 anyway.

So you're saying start on 1/8th, then work up to 1/4th, then possibly maybe long down the road 1/2..?

just ordered minoxidil 5%, and Pura D'or gold shampoo. Already have Nizoral. Got an appointment with GP next monday.

I've been really anxious about finasteride sides in the past. I'm in the best mental state I have been for some years, with very minimal anxiety. I think I just need to see my GP to discuss it, and start on very low dose and wont even look on the internet but make a record to come back with at 3 month intervals or something. It's one of those things, horror stories are out there for everything if you look for them.

But I have one last question about finasteride: as we know there can be side effects, are there any known anti-sides efforts to be made in order to minimise them? I would bet exercise is way up there because of the hormonal balance required.

 

[Alk]

So you're saying start on 1/8th, then work up to 1/4th, then possibly maybe long down the road 1/2..?

just ordered minoxidil 5%, and Pura D'or gold shampoo. Already have Nizoral. Got an appointment with GP next monday.

I've been really anxious about finasteride sides in the past. I'm in the best mental state I have been for some years, with very minimal anxiety. I think I just need to see my GP to discuss it, and start on very low dose and wont even look on the internet but make a record to come back with at 3 month intervals or something. It's one of those things, horror stories are out there for everything if you look for them.

But I have one last question about finasteride: as we know there can be side effects, are there any known anti-sides efforts to be made in order to minimise them? I would bet exercise is way up there because of the hormonal balance required.

Go to your Doctor and get a script. Out of my docs patients, none have had sides but im sure your Doctor will have an opinion. I get a script for generic proscar which is finasteride in 5mg. So breaking up 5mg into .25 mg would be a hassle and i dissolve mine in alcohol anyway. You can get generic finasteride in 1mg and split them into 4 pieces (.25 mg), it just might cost more. Take them everyday and if you get no sides in six months maybe up to .5 mg or you can just stay there its up to you. Theres no preventative measures for finasteride just dont overthink it and be consious of any changes. You can report back if you have issues. Then if your hair maintains and hopefully regrows, you can then start to look at transplant options.

 

[JeanLucBB]

So you're saying start on 1/8th, then work up to 1/4th, then possibly maybe long down the road 1/2..?

just ordered minoxidil 5%, and Pura D'or gold shampoo. Already have Nizoral. Got an appointment with GP next monday.

I've been really anxious about finasteride sides in the past. I'm in the best mental state I have been for some years, with very minimal anxiety. I think I just need to see my GP to discuss it, and start on very low dose and wont even look on the internet but make a record to come back with at 3 month intervals or something. It's one of those things, horror stories are out there for everything if you look for them.

But I have one last question about finasteride: as we know there can be side effects, are there any known anti-sides efforts to be made in order to minimise them? I would bet exercise is way up there because of the hormonal balance required.

The first time ever on finasteride I had 1mg and had instant sides from one pill for a week. At the time I was fat and didn't exercise at all. This time I've been on 0.25 (after a few days of 0.125) for a month now with no problems but have lost a significant amount of weight since last time which increases T levels and I'm doing weights 4-5 times a week which also increases T levels. DHT regulates many similar functions as T but is a stronger androgen, focusing on keeping T higher should technically help. I would focus on removing processed sugar entirely, keeping a low body fat % (12-15%) and doing weights at the gym regularly. I wouldn't worry about supplements or other drugs to combat sides until you actually get them, it would just put you in a bad frame of mind.

The few things I got early on were a mild ball tingle which went away after about a week and my sleep wasn't as heavy or effective for a bit but that could have just been random because I work late shifts and my patterns change all the time which can affect it. My sex drive, semen volume and orgasm quality went up significantly and kind of levelled off after a few weeks.

Start with what you're comfortable with and move up, people have got results on 0.25mg including regrowth. For the record, 0.25 removes 85% as much DHT as 1mg, while 0.125 about 45% as much.

 

[freak]

Thanks Jean I'll be discussing mini dosing with GP on monday.

In the meantime my hair feels pretty good with this shampoo. I think I need a hairspray to keep my hair in place for the moment as I haven't dived into a buzzcut yet because fear is there any hairsprays out there that wont damage hair further?

 

[JeanLucBB]

Thanks Jean I'll be discussing mini dosing with GP on monday.

In the meantime my hair feels pretty good with this shampoo. I think I need a hairspray to keep my hair in place for the moment as I haven't dived into a buzzcut yet because fear is there any hairsprays out there that wont damage hair further?

You try it yet?