Why losing hair is/can be a big deal for the hair loss-individual.

[superfrankie]

I found the quotation below in this book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dermatology-Dav ... 0443071403

page 6 - "In most mammals, hair or fur plays an essential role for survival, especially in the conservation of heat; this is not the case in "nude" humans. Scalp hair in humans does function as a protection against the cancer-inducing effects of ultraviolate radiation; it also protects against minor injury. However, the main role of hair in human society is as an organ of sexual attraction, and therein lies its importance to the cosmetics industry"

Even though this is far more obvious with female hair, it still affects males aswell. Dont get me wrong here, I do not assert that having hair is absolutely essential in order to be sexual attractive to the opposite sex. I know it does not take an Einstein to figure this out, however, I still found this quotation interesting, because it sums up why many of us have a hard time losing our hair.

 

[Aco_KK]

I think its more than that. Bald men aren't necessarily shunned by the community but they are perceived to be lower than the nw1. A bald man wont get treated differently but its more of a subconscious thing that people do.

 

[superfrankie]

A great analogy would be people who are fat. I believe almost all people who diverge from the attractiveness-scale will suffer from this to some degree.

Ive seen many times in both school and in other situations where fat people gets discriminated and being stigmatized as lazy fucks who does not have the same rights as "other people".

 

[Aco_KK]

We live in a sad world

But weight is something that can be controlled...hair loss can't. Thats the difference, we are at the mercy of DHT

 

[superfrankie]

yes, Im totally aware of that. That is why I am among the ones who lack respect for fat people nowadays, simply because they have something they have control to change. Most of them are just lazy fucks. It cant be more than one percent who suffer from obesity caused by diseases they dont have control over.

When people complain about certain body-complex they have control to change (like small biceps, thin body, fat thighs, fat belly etc.) it makes me mad.
There arent many on this planet that cant gain or lose weight if they have the right dedication and use the right exercise and nutrition.

 

[GeminiX]

yes, Im totally aware of that. That is why I am among the ones who lack respect for fat people nowadays, simply because they have something they have control to change. Most of them are just lazy fucks. It cant be more than one percent who suffer from obesity caused by diseases they dont have control over.

When people complain about certain body-complex they have control to change (like small biceps, thin body, fat thighs, fat belly etc.) it makes me mad.
There arent many on this planet that cant gain or lose weight if they have the right dedication and use the right exercise and nutrition.

It's the attitudes like the one you're expressing which is what bothers me most about being overweight.

I'm 41 and have achieved so many of my goals in life, yet I still struggle every single day with my weight.

Sure, there are slobs in life, but for the vast majority of people being overweight is not even close to being as simple an issue as you seem to think it is.

 

[Nene]

yes, Im totally aware of that. That is why I am among the ones who lack respect for fat people nowadays, simply because they have something they have control to change. Most of them are just lazy fucks. It cant be more than one percent who suffer from obesity caused by diseases they dont have control over.

When people complain about certain body-complex they have control to change (like small biceps, thin body, fat thighs, fat belly etc.) it makes me mad.
There arent many on this planet that cant gain or lose weight if they have the right dedication and use the right exercise and nutrition.

I'm sorry geminix but I have to agree somewhat with Superfrankie. I wouldn't go so far as to call most fat people lazy fucks, however it is hard to have sympathy. If getting my hair back was a matter of getting my *** on a treadmill, I'd have the hairline of a ten year old.

 

[GeminiX]

I'm sorry geminix but I have to agree somewhat with Superfrankie. I wouldn't go so far as to call most fat people lazy fucks, however it is hard to have sympathy. If getting my hair back was a matter of getting my *** on a treadmill, I'd have the hairline of a ten year old.

Sadly, this is a case where unless you've experienced it it's impossible to appreciate it. The fact that it seems to be such an easy condition to fix is one of the most frustrating aspects about it.

People who are generally normal weight are simply unable to understand the constant battle with food that an overweight person has.

 

[superfrankie]

yes, Im totally aware of that. That is why I am among the ones who lack respect for fat people nowadays, simply because they have something they have control to change. Most of them are just lazy fucks. It cant be more than one percent who suffer from obesity caused by diseases they dont have control over.

When people complain about certain body-complex they have control to change (like small biceps, thin body, fat thighs, fat belly etc.) it makes me mad.
There arent many on this planet that cant gain or lose weight if they have the right dedication and use the right exercise and nutrition.

I'm sorry geminix but I have to agree somewhat with Superfrankie. I wouldn't go so far as to call most fat people lazy fucks, however it is hard to have sympathy. If getting my hair back was a matter of getting my *** on a treadmill, I'd have the hairline of a ten year old.

Yeah, its defenitely hard to have sympathy. If you suffer from a thing like obesity, which you have control over, that should be enough to transform yourself to the better. Its a luxury situation. The only thing that is stoping you is your own mindset in that case.

Not so long ago I used to have complex for being thin, so I decided to do whatever it takes to change that. So I hit the gym more and used the right nutrition and voila!...problem solved

 

[superfrankie]

People who are generally normal weight are simply unable to understand the constant battle with food that an overweight person has.

But in the end its only a question of changing your mindset, and that is a luxury situation. Its not easy to change bad habits, I know, but it can be done. Think about it, you cant get your hair back simply by having a positive mindset.

 

[GeminiX]

People who are generally normal weight are simply unable to understand the constant battle with food that an overweight person has.

But in the end its only a question of changing your mindset, and that is a luxury situation. Its not easy to change bad habits, I know, but it can be done. Think about it, you cant get your hair back simply by having a positive mindset.

I'm not saying hair loss is worse (or better) than obesity, just pointing out that most people are happy to judge obese people but have no idea what it's actually like for them.

If it was really as simple as people think, nobody who was not happy about it would be fat, period.

As I've said before, I've been through the ringer in my life having to deal with issues on multiple fronts that the vast majority of people will simply have no understanding of (though will often have an opinion), yet problems with my weight have been by far the hardest to beat.

edit: this is going way off the original topic now; all I ask is that before you be so offensive to others and judge them, you try to get a better understanding about what it's really like to be in their position.

 

[person]

Ultimately the others have a point though. There is a genetic element to obesity and if one has a terrible metabolism then it will be much harder to shift weight. But if one eats a small healthly meal every few hours to keep their metabolism up and does cardio every day there is no reason for obesity. The point being is it doesn't matter what we do - hair will not grow.

 

[GeminiX]

Shall I just repost what I've already said, you're missing my point entirely.

 

[cuebald]

Well I got fat due to lazing around too much and I became 11 stone (150lbs, I am 5'7" - ok, more chubby than fat).
I dropped a stone and a half (about 10 kilo's) just by running three times a day, and cutting down on the cola and sweets. (it's the large amounts of non-diet cola that made me put on weight). I now weigh 9.5 stone (133lbs)
I found it very easy to cut down on the sweets/cola, and the weight just fell off me. I've never understood why some fatties just can't seem to do this. I think in some cases it can be an actual addiction, like a cigarette smoker has.

I know a guy who is the stereotypical excuse-maker, he never exercises and claims to eat only an apple a day - yet he always has the biggest sized McDonalds when we go out and surprise surprise he weighs 16 stone.
Another eats healthy foods but has massive portions - twice what I'd eat. None of them put on weight for "no reason" - the laws of physics don't permit it for a start. Energy and mass are interchangeable, and you can't get energy for nothing.

 

[GeminiX]

And once again, completely missing the point of my post.

It's not about the mechanics of weight loss, it's about the psychology.

 

[Ori83]

Look, there is another thing, losing weight will gain you sympathy and respect (even just stating "im starting a new diet"..) among your peers, while no one will support you if they knew you went with hair transplant or wear a wig...
fighting weight = win
fighting hair loss = pathetic....

id take being one obese mofo > HairLossTalk.com member every day

 

[GeminiX]

From my experience people are fascinated in recovering hair, there is no shame in not wanting to go bald. It's no different to a boob job, tooth veneers or laser eye surgery etc.

Sure, you'll get some opinionated jerks who will love to judge others about issues they have little understanding of, but who cares what they think?

 

[superfrankie]

Look, there is another thing, losing weight will gain you sympathy and respect (even just stating "im starting a new diet"..) among your peers, while no one will support you if they knew you went with hair transplant or wear a wig...
fighting weight = win
fighting hair loss = pathetic....

id take being one obese mofo > HairLossTalk.com member every day

hahahahaha sadly, this is so true.

 

[Primo]

I agree there is obviously a genetic factor in obesity....

However at the same time I think it is grossly hypocritical and pathetic for hairloss victims to be coming on here whining about girls rejecting them and people not understanding their problem, while at the same time expressing their fascist views about fat people ( especially women)....

and just to clarify I'm not fat, I take care of myself and have been in great shape all my life, I just think it's very rich for baldies to be venting about their problem one day and then lashing out at fatties the next... I thought hairloss was supposed to turn men into humble understanding individuals, not judgemental assholes.

 

[superfrankie]

Well, since I began losing hair (something which I have no control over) I lost sympathy for people (incl. myself) who moan about things they in fact can change. (Im talking about the appearance here, not the mental aspect of how to handle something you have no control over, from a physical point of view)

On the other hand, I have deep respect for people suffering from conditions they have no control over. Terrible acne, vitiligo, many forms of cancer, birth marks, gigantic nose, bad teeth, and other unfortunate hereditary characteristics. Incl. obesity, but only if they are caused by severe hereditary factors.

When I look back at the complex I had about being too thin according to myself, I find it to be a lughing stoke today, since all I had to do was hit the gym and use the right nutrition.