Why everything's about Minoxodil or rogaine

[nazeltov]

Though this is my first post on this forum, i have been lurking around for a long time. I know Mino/rog can be effective as i have used it before but i discontinued it, like 3 months ago, because i was severely developing one of its worst side effects: the puffy face. My nose, eyes, even my forehead was getting big. I have been looking since then for another stimulant to replace it but from all the reviews and discussions it seems that everyone's focused only on the Mino/Rog. Are there really other products that are as effective? Are we all really using that product?

 

[MrBastard]

It is the best one when it come to regrowth... Did you use 1 ml 5% once or twice daily, on a completely dry non damp scalp?

If you want to can try Miconazole Nitrate who supposedly is very good to thicken hairs

 

[follicle84]

Minoxidil as far as i know is the only clinically proven stimulant to work for hairloss. Thats why so many people use it.

What minoxidil dosage were you taking and how long did you use it for? perhaps you could try a lower dose like 2% once a day if you havent done already. Furthermore most side effects from minoxidil are temporary and more common in the first few weeks than in than in the first six months.

 

[mann02]

Minoxidil as far as i know is the only clinically proven stimulant to work for hairloss. Thats why so many people use it.

What minoxidil dosage were you taking and how long did you use it for? perhaps you could try a lower dose like 2% once a day if you havent done already. Furthermore most side effects from minoxidil are temporary and more common in the first few weeks than in than in the first six months.

In ur regimen u said ur mixing finasteride in minoxidil?is it working?

 

[MrBastard]

Minoxidil as far as i know is the only clinically proven stimulant to work for hairloss. Thats why so many people use it.

What minoxidil dosage were you taking and how long did you use it for? perhaps you could try a lower dose like 2% once a day if you havent done already. Furthermore most side effects from minoxidil are temporary and more common in the first few weeks than in than in the first six months.

Thats not how i see it from reading posts here. Most people tell they used minoxidil for several months, even years before they see that theyr skin have changed, bloated

 

[nazeltov]

I was using the 5% twice a day for about maybe 4 months, then when i saw the puffy face and read some talks about it, i decided to use it only one time. That didn't do nothing because the face was still there and i always applied it when my scalp was completely dry.

 

[follicle84]

I guess everyone responds differently. From my experience i got head aches which got less severe over time.

 

[follicle84]

Minoxidil as far as i know is the only clinically proven stimulant to work for hairloss. Thats why so many people use it.

What minoxidil dosage were you taking and how long did you use it for? perhaps you could try a lower dose like 2% once a day if you havent done already. Furthermore most side effects from minoxidil are temporary and more common in the first few weeks than in than in the first six months.

In ur regimen u said ur mixing finasteride in minoxidil?is it working?

Sorry i should have changed that. I havent used that regimen in a while. It didnt stop my hairloss just slowed it down greatly.

 

[thinincrown]

Though this is my first post on this forum, i have been lurking around for a long time. I know Mino/rog can be effective as i have used it before but i discontinued it, like 3 months ago, because i was severely developing one of its worst side effects: the puffy face. My nose, eyes, even my forehead was getting big. I have been looking since then for another stimulant to replace it but from all the reviews and discussions it seems that everyone's focused only on the Mino/Rog. Are there really other products that are as effective? Are we all really using that product?

Im thinking about adding a growth stimulant but not crazy about the dreaded "minoxidil shed" Ive heard about.

So to answer your question as to other products that are "as effective" I dont know BUT there are a couple non-minoxidil products could possibly stimulate growth....

Spectral RS
Proxiphen-n (or Dr Proctors Advanced Thinning Hair Formula)

Those 2 Im considering, or I will bite teh bullet and try minoxidil and hope the RU and/or fluridil stave off a big shed

 

[thinincrown]

I made a guide/thread to all of the hairloss treatments, you can see it here- viewtopic.php?f=11&t=63313

thanks finasteride, hey does Miconazole help turn vellus hairs into terminal ones?

Adenosine is another growth stumulant, but unsure of its efficacy

 

[thinincrown]

Adenosine is another growth stumulant, but unsure of its efficacy

I did a little research into Adenosine but I don't think I would feel comfortable using it. It's a very serious heart block medication you can read about it's effects below.

Adenosine Pharmacological action
Action on the heartWhen administered intravenously, adenosine causes transient heart block in the AV node. This is mediated via the A1 receptor, inhibiting adenylyl cyclase, reducing cAMP and so causing cell hyperpolarization by increasing outward K+ flux. It also causes endothelial dependent relaxation of smooth muscle as is found inside the artery walls. This causes dilatation of the "normal" segments of arteries; i.e. where the endothelium is not separated from the tunica media by atherosclerotic plaque. This feature allows physicians to use adenosine to test for blockages in the coronary arteries, by exaggerating the difference between the normal and abnormal segments.

In individuals suspected of suffering from a supraventricular tachycardia (SVT), adenosine is used to help identify the rhythm. Certain SVTs can be successfully terminated with adenosine.[4] This includes any re-entrant arrhythmias that require the AV node for the re-entry (e.g., AV reentrant tachycardia (AVRT), AV nodal reentrant tachycardia (AVNRT). In addition, atrial tachycardia can sometimes be terminated with adenosine.

Adenosine has an indirect effect on atrial tissue causing a shortening of the refractory period. When administered via a central lumen catheter, adenosine has been shown to initiate atrial fibrillation because of its effect on atrial tissue. In individuals with accessory pathways, the onset of atrial fibrillation can lead to a life-threatening ventricular fibrillation.

Fast rhythms of the heart that are confined to the atria (e.g., atrial fibrillation, atrial flutter) or ventricles (e.g., monomorphic ventricular tachycardia) and do not involve the AV node as part of the re-entrant circuit are not typically converted by adenosine. However, the ventricular response rate is temporarily slowed with adenosine in such cases.

Because of the effects of adenosine on AV node-dependent SVTs, adenosine is considered a class V antiarrhythmic agent. When adenosine is used to cardiovert an abnormal rhythm, it is normal for the heart to enter ventricular asystole for a few seconds. This can be disconcerting to a normally conscious patient, and is associated with angina-like sensations in the chest




Oubviously for male pattern baldness treatment it would be applied as a topical, and systematic absorption should be low, which would hopefully negate side effects. However, I experienced systematic side effects from Minoxidl, so I would be careful with this drug. There is a japanes company called Shiseido that marketed it you can read about it at the bottom here-




Clinical Studies


•According to a study conducted by Japanese cosmetic firm Shiseido, the results of a randomized, placebo-controlled study of 30 Japanese women suffering from hair loss who used 0.75 percent adenosine lotion twice daily for one year showed that adenosine significantly improves hair loss by stimulating hair growth and thickening the shaft of each hair.

In another Shiseido study, thickened hair with adenosine treatment was also observed in a small clinical study of Japanese men suffering from hair loss.
Products

•Shiseido launched its adenosine product, Adenogen, in 2005. In addition, other adenosine hair growth treatments include Spectral DNC and Nioxin. Dermenodex is a hair-loss shampoo that contains adenosine.

Side Effects
•Chest pressure, dizziness and nausea, headaches, elevated blood pressure, shortness of breath and tingling in the arms are side effects of adenosine. More serious side effects include a severe allergic reaction. If this occurs, contact a health care provider immediately

wow, thanks for the research finasteride.....didnt realize it had those sides. I'll stick to Prox-n and then maybe just a touch of minoxidil if I need more of a kick. I get puffy face and heart disease runs in my family, so if I do add minoxidil it will be at a very low dose topically.