when will there be a hairloss cure?

hairwegoagain

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WorldofWarcraft said:
If I was president I would re-direct all AIDS research to find a cure for male pattern baldness.

...which is why you have zero prospect for becoming the President's dry cleaner's pool boy, much less the President.
 

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jambri said:
not comparable.

Before anyone chips in here to criticise you, I'll just say it's obvious your comments come from ignorance and as such, no hard feelings. You will learn.
i am selfish and that's where my comments come from
i thought about it last night adn i realised if there was a cure for aids i could have sex without a condom all the time so its something to consider but i still think id rather have a full head of hair
 
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are we any near to a cure?? i heard about some experiment with mice that worked. but are we still a long way away?

It depends on what you define as a "cure". OSH101 is a few years away as is Hair Multiplication (HM) and this sounds about as close to a cure as we could get. I'm sure that 20 years ago, what we have now would be considered a cure too.

I'll be holding my breath for the OSH101. Though as far as a single injection that will cure complete baldness, probably won't happen for 50 years (+/- 30 :wink:)
 

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There is a "cure" for not getting AIDS -- no or protected sex, safe blood supplies/syringes etc..
 
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There is a "cure" for not getting AIDS -- no or protected sex, safe blood supplies/syringes etc..

oh yeah? how about being in a hospital and getting it from a blood transfusion? you think that patients get to monitor the blood supplies? give me a break. it still happens. yeah, it's true that if you practice safe sex and don't use illegal drugs, that your chances of getting aids drop to virtually nil, but that doesn't mean that people who have aids deserve scorn or whatever like ive seen on here.

there are plenty of mostly preventable diseases like adult onset diabetes but i don't see people bashing those on here because it's not as PC or whatever.
 

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tembo said:
There is a "cure" for not getting AIDS -- no or protected sex, safe blood supplies/syringes etc..

oh yeah? how about being in a hospital and getting it from a blood transfusion? you think that patients get to monitor the blood supplies? give me a break. it still happens. yeah, it's true that if you practice safe sex and don't use illegal drugs, that your chances of getting aids drop to virtually nil, but that doesn't mean that people who have aids deserve scorn or whatever like ive seen on here.

there are plenty of mostly preventable diseases like adult onset diabetes but i don't see people bashing those on here because it's not as PC or whatever.

Nothing is more vile than male pattern baldness.
 

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Noo cure anytime soon. Even if they found a cure tomorrow it will be at least 10 yers before the FDA is satisfied enough with tests to approve it and make sure the major pharmaceutical companies makes tons of profits. Most people here will be old by then.

An analogy of the approach the researchers are taking now is that they are taking shots at a dartboard (the bullseye the cure) blindfolded and trying to figure out if they got a cure by the sound the dart makes from 500 feet away.

They just don't care enogh to find a cure.

Hair systems will be socially acceptable before they are anywhere near a cure.
 
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WorldofWarcraft said:
JayMan said:
tembo said:
There is a "cure" for not getting AIDS -- no or protected sex, safe blood supplies/syringes etc..

oh yeah? how about being in a hospital and getting it from a blood transfusion? you think that patients get to monitor the blood supplies? give me a break. it still happens. yeah, it's true that if you practice safe sex and don't use illegal drugs, that your chances of getting aids drop to virtually nil, but that doesn't mean that people who have aids deserve scorn or whatever like ive seen on here.

there are plenty of mostly preventable diseases like adult onset diabetes but i don't see people bashing those on here because it's not as PC or whatever.

Nothing is more vile than male pattern baldness.

you gotta be trolling or joking. no one could actually believe this could they? no way.

i'd take an nw7 over AIDS every day of the week and twice on sunday.
 

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People do care "enough".

A cure is worth billions and its PERPETUAL. People will always suffer from hair loss up until the point where it can be nullified in the gene pool and the likelihood of that ever happening is slim.
 

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People do care "enough".

A cure is worth billions and its PERPETUAL. People will always suffer from hair loss up until the point where it can be nullified in the gene pool and the likelihood of that ever happening is slim.

Assuming that the major or minor companies care and the fact of IF they are even commiting any of their resources to find a cure are 2 different worlds.

What companies are devoting the required resources to find a cure? I bet no one can name any. And I don't mean snakeoil cures that have no basis in real science.
 

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I think that's baloney.

Look at the success of v****, for instance. There is a HUGE market for pharmaceuticals that tackle everyday inconveniences of men. Hairloss is no different.
 

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The Gardener said:
I think that's baloney.

Look at the success of v****, for instance. There is a HUGE market for pharmaceuticals that tackle everyday inconveniences of men. Hairloss is no different.


It is different. The discovery of v**** was an accident and besides this country is obsessed with sex.
 

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So said:
People do care "enough".

A cure is worth billions and its PERPETUAL. People will always suffer from hair loss up until the point where it can be nullified in the gene pool and the likelihood of that ever happening is slim.

Assuming that the major or minor companies care and the fact of IF they are even commiting any of their resources to find a cure are 2 different worlds.

What companies are devoting the required resources to find a cure? I bet no one can name any. And I don't mean snakeoil cures that have no basis in real science.

Curis
Anderans
Intercytex



you wanted one, theres 3. and those are just the actual research companies. they all have significant financial backing from major corporations.
 

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There's no info for the second company but I didn't look hard enough for it.

The third company's clinical trial of hair regeneration:
Intercytex commences Phase I clinical trials of TrichoCyte, an innovative hair regeneration product

16th October 2003

Manchester, 16th October 2003: Intercytex today announced commencement of Phase Ia volunteer clinical studies to assess the safety of its hair-regeneration product TrichoCyte.

TrichoCyte - a cell-based product will be indicated for the treatment of male-pattern baldness (androgenic alopecia) - consists of autologous tissue culture expanded dermal papillae cells potentially capable of inducing the formation of new hair follicles. Compared with conventional hair transplants, TrichoCyte will be significantly less traumatic to the patient – requiring a smaller donor-site to be surgically excised from the scalp. This also means that patients who have insufficient hair to qualify for a conventional transplant may be treatable using the TrichoCyte system.

Completion of Phase I studies is scheduled for mid-2004; these safety trials will be followed by Phase II efficacy trials conducted mostly in the US.

We're not likely to see that available before the next 8 years. Also it will require hair to be transplated from cloned hair cells to the head. I'm not sure but I think it kinda looks like hair plugs unless they can make it look unnoticable which will probably be the case in 8 years.


The first company Curis is doing research on a drug:
Curis Reaches First Preclinical Milestone in Hair Growth Program with Procter & Gamble

CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 21, 2006--Curis, Inc. (NASDAQ: CRIS), a therapeutic drug development company, today announced that it has reached the first preclinical milestone in a hair growth program with Procter & Gamble Pharmaceuticals, a division of The Procter & Gamble Company (NYSE: PG). The program is focused upon the potential development of a topical Hedgehog agonist for hair growth disorders, such as male pattern baldness and female pattern hair loss. As part of the initial agreement signed in September of 2005, P&G agreed to pay Curis up to $2.8 million in preclinical milestones. The first of two preclinical milestones has now been successfully completed.

That drug will be available, if it ever will be, in maybe 9 years. If they're doing what I think they are, i.e. modulating the Hedgehog genes, then I don't think it will work and will be dangerous. Unless they meant something else.

Keep in mind that the press releases they put out are to persuade investors to invest in their company. I don't know what kind of resources they are devoting.
 

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But when they cure your male pattern baldness, there won't be a pill to cure your ugly.
 

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male pattern baldness is easier to fight then cancer or aids. Cancer and Aids have had a ton more money devoted to there research, and arguably they deserve it. Neither one is close to being cured and might not ever be. A home run cancer drug depending on the stage and type of cancer extends life by about 6 months. Science has not been as devoted to researching hairloss so its still easier to make discoveries. Science has its priorities straight though people living is more important than hair even though some here might disagree.
 

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abcdefg said:
male pattern baldness is easier to fight then cancer or aids. Cancer and Aids have had a ton more money devoted to there research, and arguably they deserve it. Neither one is close to being cured and might not ever be. A home run cancer drug depending on the stage and type of cancer extends life by about 6 months. Science has not been as devoted to researching hairloss so its still easier to make discoveries. Science has its priorities straight though people living is more important than hair even though some here might disagree.

Actually a cure to almost all cancers is closer than you think. I think there will be major news in the coming weeks and possibly a cure this year.
 
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