Fred from Belgium or whitepolarbear who started at 16 and lost all by 20 is terrible example of bad genetics. Receded at front to Norwood 4A and diffuse Norwood 7 with donor butchering, deceptive photos for the hair community don't paint real picture. Sadly fast skin ageing too and ordinary looks you can see bone and veins in usually middle aged men so it's as bad as one man I know in my city.
