what would you recommend for 29 yo female with Androgenetic Alopecia

[labellavita1985]

I haven't bought it yet but I will be buying from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Lipogaine-Men...UTF8&qid=1441550937&sr=8-1&keywords=lipogaine

What do you think about my 2% minoxidil question?

 

[I.D WALKER]

I think less is best for now. 2X a day of min. I think Joan has indicated she applies 5% 1Xpd before bed?

If you want to add azalaic acid with 2% min. for "added insurance" that's probably fine. I don't know what value of min. is in Lipogaine, but if it comes with 2% min., then there you go.

BestLuck!

 

[labellavita1985]

The men's Lipogaine contains 5% minoxidil, the women's contains 2%.

The Lipogaine formula already contains azelaic acid, so it wouldn't be an additional step.

Are you thinking about trying the Lipogaine?

 

[Joan]

Here's insight maybe some min. and/or prospective users might find helpful. Most of it is basically well known, however there's a part in article that supports anecdotal claims it may prove more effective on a dampened scalp ( freshly showered). Better absorption which makes sense due to increase in circulation of scalp by the warm- hot water.

BTW Ferudini's considered top notch in the hair transplant community.

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni...ical-therapy/minoxidil-rogainer-regainer.html

Thanks for the info, I.D Walker. My mind's shot--I use minoxidil in the morning, after showering, so my scalp is damp.

Labella: Thanks for the Lipogaine recommendation. It looks like you're having a decent amount of regrowth. If your shedding has decreased, maybe wait a bit before trying anything with minoxidil. You may not need it.

 

[I.D WALKER]

That's what I was hoping to learn.

To your last question: Yes I may have to insofar that the traditional method is not showing any real benefit. I just might be a poor responder. A stronger strength may help.

I pay on average only $15.00 a month (1.5 bottles/month) for generic min. Obviously it's cheap enough but I'm oddly conflicted as to why I continue with unsatisfactory treatment.

Basically I'm reluctant to stop for fear it will worsen matters. This may sound contradictory (it is Androgenetic Alopecia after all) before I share that I apply generously to areas not yet "showing" hair loss. Preemptive measure, I suppose is another way to put it. -)

What are you paying for Lipogaine?

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Sorry that I misinformed others regarding your minoxidil. schedule/routine. Anyway I prefer your words above all any day of the week. -)

What do mean your mind's shot?

I may not be exactly impartial, but I love how your mind works!

Thanks for the info, I.D Walker. My mind's shot--I use minoxidil in the morning, after showering, so my scalp is damp.

Labella: Thanks for the Lipogaine recommendation. It looks like you're having a decent amount of regrowth. If your shedding has decreased, maybe wait a bit before trying anything with minoxidil. You may not need it.

 

[Joan]

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Sorry that I misinformed others regarding your minoxidil. schedule/routine. Anyway I prefer your words above all any day of the week. -)

What do mean your mind's shot?

I may not be exactly impartial, but I love how your mind works!

No, I did say I used minoxidil nightly. My mind is on hair loss almost 24/7, along with a health issue that cropped up for my husband almost two years ago (so far, so good). I've been a lifelong hypochondriac (I've "had" and been tested for just about everything), although hair loss has now trumped my hypochondria, so my husband's diagnosis made my worries a reality. I'm not looking for sympathy; I just wanted to explain why it's hard for me to focus on things sometimes.

Oh, God, if you could read my mind, you wouldn't know whether to laugh or consider calling a shrink! Your mind is much more sound, trust me.

 

[I.D WALKER]

I would not laugh and I sure as hell would not call a shrink. -)

I'm glad your husband's health issue is at least stable atm. I hope he steadily improves for his AND your special families' sake.

You bring out an important reminder how we can too easily get to know someone, put them in a box (and on a pedestal even) and never see them actually in their entirety.

It cause me think that our

human vulnerabilities are trumped by self gratuitous agenda(s). Maybe from mostly a subconscious level, greater interpersonal bonding and awareness get's displaced by a domineering impulse(s) for acceptance or affection. In a way we do this to the one's we love visa versa.

For what any of it is worth and forgive me Joan if I sound patronizing I find you only more dynamic and amazing than before in light of your ability to share the REAL you and not simply another polished pretty shell of a person. Although it is always right to continue to honor/respect one's privacy I am proud of your confidence.

 

[labellavita1985]

Hey guys,

just wanted to add that I've found two more of the really short, fine hairs on my shirt today, and I haven't even washed my hair yet.

They're about one inch long, 30% thinner than the rest of my hair, and seemingly under pigmented.

Doesn't this indicate Androgenetic Alopecia?

 

[Joan]

Someone once posted on Heralopecia that her derm said everyone has a certain degree of miniaturization. I don't know whether that's true or not. I'm sure I've probably been experiencing short cycling and miniaturization for years but didn't notice because my hair wasn't losing density and my shedding wasn't crazy. I do remember losing corkscrew hairs here and there probably since my teens (I lose more of them now). I think we're scrutinizing our hair and noticing things more because we are thinning. Two hairs, in my opinion, are nothing. If your hair is recovering, it may take a couple of cycles for things to get back to normal.

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I would not laugh and I sure as hell would not call a shrink. -)

I'm glad your husband's health issue is at least stable atm. I hope he steadily improves for his AND your special families' sake.

You bring out an important reminder how we can too easily get to know someone, put them in a box (and on a pedestal even) and never see them actually in their entirety.

It cause me think that our

human vulnerabilities are trumped by self gratuitous agenda(s). Maybe from mostly a subconscious level, greater interpersonal bonding and awareness get's displaced by a domineering impulse(s) for acceptance or affection. In a way we do this to the one's we love visa versa.

For what any of it is worth and forgive me Joan if I sound patronizing I find you only more dynamic and amazing than before in light of your ability to share the REAL you and not simply another polished pretty shell of a person. Although it is always right to continue to honor/respect one's privacy I am proud of your confidence.

Thank you. It's a chronic condition; hopefully, treatment will be many years away. I just feel that I can handle whatever comes our way if I could keep my hair. Morbid as it may sound, I don't want to be a bald widow. I will not be able to function without hair, and it will affect every aspect of my life. (See? I am strange.)

As far as putting others on a pedestal, how many bald men SHOULD be put on pedestals because they are beautiful people and would make terrific boyfriends/husbands but are never given the chance to reveal those qualities because shallow women don't give them the opportunity? When these women become middle aged, that's when you guys rise to the top, because baldness will be more common AND you will age better than the average woman of the same age. Plus, a number of these women will have thinning hair too. I never thought it would happen to me, but if they look at their mothers and grandmothers, they'll see their fate. This is just my opinion.

Thank you, too, for calling me dynamic and amazing. I've been critical of myself almost forever, but I will tell you that I am genuine, and everyone tends to feel comfortable around me--and I do blab too many personal things!

 

[DontWant2BeBald]

I think less is best for now. 2X a day of min. I think Joan has indicated she applies 5% 1Xpd before bed?

If you want to add azalaic acid with 2% min. for "added insurance" that's probably fine. I don't know what value of min. is in Lipogaine, but if it comes with 2% min., then there you go.

BestLuck!

why are you guys telling her to use minor?

YOU HAVE NO NOTICEABLE HAIR LOSS

If the anti-androgens you are taking won't stop your hairless then you will go bald anyway and if they do then you will have what looks like a full head of hair for the rest of your life. What happens if they do stop your hairless and you have started minoxidil? You will have to keep using that till the day you die because if you stop all your hair will fall out.

My advice is to experiment with spironolactone and finasteride even dutasteride if you want and see if they help stop your hairloss

 

[I.D WALKER]

When I finally cultivate the courage to start minoxidil, I'll be using this product.

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What do you guys think the chances are of me reducing the chances and/or the extent of a dread shed by using 2% minoxidil instead of 5%?

I believe she came to the minoxidil. decision independent of external persuasion.

 

[Joan]

why are you guys telling her to use minor?

YOU HAVE NO NOTICEABLE HAIR LOSS

If the anti-androgens you are taking won't stop your hairless then you will go bald anyway and if they do then you will have what looks like a full head of hair for the rest of your life. What happens if they do stop your hairless and you have started minoxidil? You will have to keep using that till the day you die because if you stop all your hair will fall out.

My advice is to experiment with spironolactone and finasteride even dutasteride if you want and see if they help stop your hairloss

To you it's not noticeable, but she knows how much hair she started out with before she started shedding. Also, photos can be deceiving. My hair loss wouldn't look bad in a photo unless I exposed my receding temples. That being said, I do agree that she should give her meds a chance and also wait to see if increasing her iron and Vitamin D levels helps alleviate her shedding and spurs regrowth before throwing minoxidil into the mix.

 

[I.D WALKER]

.., I do agree that she should give her meds a chance and also wait to see if increasing her iron and Vitamin D levels helps alleviate her shedding and spurs regrowth before throwing minoxidil into the mix.

That's more like it.

 

[labellavita1985]

why are you guys telling her to use minor?

YOU HAVE NO NOTICEABLE HAIR LOSS

If the anti-androgens you are taking won't stop your hairless then you will go bald anyway and if they do then you will have what looks like a full head of hair for the rest of your life. What happens if they do stop your hairless and you have started minoxidil? You will have to keep using that till the day you die because if you stop all your hair will fall out.

My advice is to experiment with spironolactone and finasteride even dutasteride if you want and see if they help stop your hairloss

Wait a second .... The part that I have bolded confuses me.

I thought that with Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness/FPHL, any type of maintenance/reversal achieved with anti androgens or DHT inhibitors was self limiting, and that the best we could really hope for was delaying more loss for 5-10 years, but that, in the end, Androgenetic Alopecia would "win out." Am I wrong about this?

Don'twant2bebald said that if the anti androgens work I will have a full head of hair for the rest of my life. I thought treatments like finestaride bought us a few years, and that's it. Am I missing something here?

 

[I.D WALKER]

http://blog.americanhairloss.org/hair-loss/hair-loss-drug-tolerance/

The only absolute to consider is that we all can respond differently to medication.

 

[recedingyt]

Wait a second .... The part that I have bolded confuses me.

I thought that with Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness/FPHL, any type of maintenance/reversal achieved with anti androgens or DHT inhibitors was self limiting, and that the best we could really hope for was delaying more loss for 5-10 years, but that, in the end, Androgenetic Alopecia would "win out." Am I wrong about this?

Don'twant2bebald said that if the anti androgens work I will have a full head of hair for the rest of my life. I thought treatments like finestaride bought us a few years, and that's it. Am I missing something here?

This user has been treating his Androgenetic Alopecia for 14 years and is still looking good. Reading the thread he's definitely had some hurdles in that time though.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...mazing-regrow-in-months-with-dutasteride-PICS

12 year user who has maintained

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/showthread.php/91593-12-Year-Update

4 years maintaining

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...ide-and-Rogaine-NEWEST-pics-page-14-May-12-12

6 years

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/showthread.php/90789-Success-story-6-Years-of-battling

I'm just saying there's a lot of people who maintain for a long time. Everyone is different. I think the fact you are also on anti-androgens will drastically decrease the likelihood of your regimen losing efficacy. The only one you have to worry about in my opinion is minoxidil, and even that is going to be a YMMV sort of thing. I think once you get your hormones and vitamin D levels in check you are going to be 100% fine.