Personally I believe diffuse thinners are a strange breed. I dont think the mechanism is the same as receders and I think treatments either do jack sh*t (90% of cases) or respond EXTREMELY well (the remaining 10%). I tried to explain this analogy before. In receders: The DHT army smashes into the front lines of your hairs. Your hairs mixed with treatments attempt to fight back Spartan style. In diffuse hair loss, the DHT army uses another strategy. They launch nuclear missles that strike random targets. Being fast moving random missles, they are hard to shoot down. I just think diffuseness will never wipe out the scalp hairs as much as a receder, but I also think its 100x more difficult to combat and that could be because of the difference in mechanisms that I suspect. A lot of people I notice think because they have an small area thin its diffuse thinning. It is not. Even crown thinning isn't diffuse thining (if you start to thin there first but keep your hairline.) It's a rare type of loss that affects ENTIRELY your top and sometimes your sides and back. Me, the 3 people I showed you and Jayman are the only ppl I've seen on this site who TRULY suffer diffuse thinning.