What kind of Copper Peptides are in Spectral DNC?

[Guest]

Is this a good amount of peptides in there than? Sounds like that's a good Cu Peptide, though I've never heard of Iamin.

I've been very impressed with the customer service from Divine Skin. They seem to get flack from people but I like the DNC, and it sounds like they're not pulling the American Crew "Copper Gluconate" Trick on us. Can't wait to start on their Revita either.

 

[Bryan]

Is this a good amount of peptides in there than?

Oh, I think 1.5% is a very nominal amount to have in a product like that. It's just about what I would have expected/hoped for!

Sounds like that's a good Cu Peptide, though I've never heard of Iamin.

That would be "Iamin Hydrating Gel", from ProCyte Corporation (the makers of Tricomin). Iamin was their first copper-peptide product, and came out several years ago. It's designed to be applied topically to wounds in the skin, to speed their healing.

If you search alt.baldspot from a few years ago, you can see a great many posts about it at the time. There was a great deal of interest in it, because everybody was aware of the potential for using it for balding. Some of us did indeed order the stuff to use on our scalps (I still have a couple of old tubes of it sitting around). It's fascinating that that's what Spectral DNC is using!

Bryan

 

[Bryan]

If you're curious about Iamin Hydrating Gel, here are the listed contents on the tube:

Ingredients: Purified Water, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Benzyl Alcohol, Prezatide Copper Acetate, Sodium Chloride.

 

[beaner]

Sounds like good news then, thanks for checking on that. I may end up trying Spectral one of these days, since I've definitely heard more positive than negative about the product, I just wish they'd come down on the price a bit.

 

[Bryan]

One other thing I should mention here that I forgot before: if I remember correctly from old old alt.baldspot posts, even Dr. Proctor at one point was using the Iamin peptide in Proxiphen. Don't know if he's still using it...

Bryan

 

[Guest]

beaner,

Do a froogle.com search for Spectral DNC. It is only $25.41 retail from Orbit US Superstore and they come out the cheapest too after shipping compared to the other vendors. Get two or three bottles and the shipping costs are defrayed across these three and the overall cost is quite low. I've contacte Orbit US, they have good customer service and have verified they only sell the NEW formula of Spectral. None of that old stuff leftovers that would stain your scalp and lacked some of the newer ingredients and spray pump.

Brian,

If I was already using Spectral DNC, would you find it advantageous to spend the money on another Copper Peptide product? I do put costs as a high priority in my hair loss regimen, but I also plan on purchasing the Revita shampoo which has Copper Peptides (probably the same way I'd assume) as well. Though I only plan on using Revita EOD due to costs, so I'd need another shampoo to rotate into the Revita off days. I could go with either a Tricomin or Folligen (or even AC revitalize).

I know this is getting into the "regimen advice area" which I try to avoid since you get inundated with this already, but this one recommendation would be appreciated Thanks!

 

[beaner]

Thanks!

 

[Private Ryan]

DNC sound good to me. the 2main ingredient i find interesting is minoxidil and CP. the rest i am not too excited about them.

but at a cost of average 3.5times of rogaine foam, i still hold back abit. maybe not so soon for me

 

[Guest]

DNC sound good to me. the 2main ingredient i find interesting is minoxidil and CP. the rest i am not too excited about them.

but at a cost of average 3.5times of rogaine foam, i still hold back abit. maybe not so soon for me

The Apple Polyphenols, Adenosine, aminexil, and nanosome encapsulation are worth its costs as well.

One bottle of Spectral is $25 at Orbit US Superstore. You can use Spectral at night and the foam in the morning.

 

[Jacobo]

Fairtaxnow,

I cannot guess Bryan's answer to the benefits of adding another copper peptide, though I asked him some time ago and he answered quoting Dr Proctor "the more, the merrier"

As cost is an issue, the idea of Tricomin Shampoo (with conditioner 2 in 1 is great stuff), makes sense on the off Revita days. Even better -I think- will be the Nano Shampoo "lite" at http://www.lef.org .

If you pre-wash quickly your hair with any cheap shampoo first (I use plain shower gel for that), then you can use a tiny amount of the expensive one afterwards, using it like a scalp treatment, 5 min before rinsing. They will last ages, and you have to wash your hair anyway.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Jacobo, that sounds a bit Bryan'esque too if that matters! :wink:

If it's "the more the merrier" I will try that route than. I've heard of nano but never looked into it. Let me explore the link you gave me. Thanks!

Yes I know the pre-wash trick too. Makes just a TINY bead of shampoo afterwards give a great lather. Since only the surface area gets absorbed into the scalp for the 10 minutes (I can't fathom being able to leave shampoo on longer that!) and everything else is washed off, probably the opposite is the case for shampoo being "the less the merrier"

 

[Jacobo]

FairTaxNow,

Nano "lite" is sold in that lef.org under the name "dr proctor advanced shampoo" or similar, do a search there with "proctor". It is meant to be a "watered down" version of Dr Proctor's Nano Shampoo, with the same ingredients .Even Dr Proctor has said that it may be better value than the product he sells through http://www.drproctor.com. I've read several posts here swearing that it is the same thing. Nano Shampoo = 40$, lite version = 25$. I use "real" Nano just because I order it with Proxiphen, then I save on the shipping. Do a search "nano" with author "Bryan", and you will realize that it does worth it.

After reading this thread, specially Bryan's last answer, I am going to swap Minoxidil for Spectral, and then Nizoral for Revita. Orbit Us store ships to Europe without extra charge , I hope they will sell Revita when available. That is a really good price. Reading your post, you seem sure that is the real thing, good.

I thought that Spectral was just a well marketed Minoxidil. But the fact that they use an old fashioned and proven copper peptide and they even don't cash on it (they just include it under mineral and vitamin complex), that sounds really good to me.

 

[Jacobo]

BTW, a stupid question about posting etiquette. After you said Bryan-esque you use :wink: , what is roughly its meaning?

 

[Guest]

Jacobo,

Yeah I was able to find the Nano on the lef website but I appreciate the further info regarding the "lite" vs. regular. Is lef.org the only site that sells this shampoo? So the main ingredients in here we're looking for is the NANO and the Copper Peptides? I thought NANO was alwasy a brand, I'll have to do some more research on this. This seems to be a bit more expensive than just getting a Tricomin or Folligen shampoo, is the added NANO worth it?

Oh and ":wink:" is the "wink" emoticon. It's just a goofy looking one on this board rather than the typically one you see.

Oh by the way, please email the owners of the Orbit US Superstore website about the Revita. I have before to see if they could get a price on it but he said he wouldn't know about it until it was closer to release. I guess as a businessman, he was dead set against doing pre-orders like Aiken does. I'm not a fan of Aiken, they do all these glitzy things but in the end their prices aren't that great and the customer service was pretty poor.

 

[Guest]

I use lef.org Nano.

 

[Guest]

I use lef.org Nano.

What does "sporadic" use of it average out to? EOD, once a week, thrice a week, all of the above sporadically from month to month?

How long would the lef nano last when used EOD?

 

[Bryan]

Brian,

If I was already using Spectral DNC, would you find it advantageous to spend the money on another Copper Peptide product? I do put costs as a high priority in my hair loss regimen, but I also plan on purchasing the Revita shampoo which has Copper Peptides (probably the same way I'd assume) as well. Though I only plan on using Revita EOD due to costs, so I'd need another shampoo to rotate into the Revita off days. I could go with either a Tricomin or Folligen (or even AC revitalize).

Hard to say if Spectral DNC is fully sufficient for that purpose. If cost is a high priority for you but you still want to get _some_ extra copper peptides, you could always go with Folligen. It's relatively inexpensive, and can last a long time if you dilute it 50/50 with purified water (as even Pickart suggests) and use it judiciously. Otherwise, I'd recommend Prox-N (which is fairly expensive) or Tricomin (not exactly cheap). Prox-N also has the benefit of having other stuff in it besides just copper-peptides.

Bryan

 

[Guest]

I use lef.org Nano.

What does "sporadic" use of it average out to? EOD, once a week, thrice a week, all of the above sporadically from month to month?

How long would the lef nano last when used EOD?

well my bottle has lasted about 4 months so far and i've probably used the Nano a grand total of 5 times. I am really bad about shampooing my hair sometimes. I probably only shampoo twice a week on average.

i imagine if you were using it EOD, it would last about 3 months. I figure there are 48 "servings" in there so to speak. The bottle is 8 ounces so if you use a teaspoon in your hair, with 6 teaspoons in an ounce, that's 48 servings, so it would last about 96 days. If you do a prewash like some people do you could probably make it last half a year.

 

[Jacobo]

FairTaxNow

I haven't read any info about Nano "lite" being sold anywhere else apart from lef.org. But you can always use any cheap shampoo on the off Revita days and then do what Bryan says, mixing Folligen with water will not break the bank.

Also, I agree that Tricomin (the scalp therapy-spray, not the shampoo) is not exatly cheap but...think that Tricomin is 180 ml, if you apply with a dropper (an empty minoxidil bottle will do the trick) instead of spraying it (less than half will go to your scalp that way)... it will last 3 months using 2 ml day, or 6 months with 1 ml day. I do not use it regularly, but it is the best "scalp feel good" product that I have tried.

 

[Guest]

Hmmmmm, my plan was to get some type of Cu Peptide shampoo to supplement the Revita EOD. Though it sounds like you guys are recommending to use a Cu Peptide solution rather?

Is the topical that much more beneficial than just the shampoo? I figured that since I shampoo anyways, it wouldn't be that much more of a hassle to add to my topical regimen since you basically have to shampoo anyways. But the price of the topical solution is about the same and if you get better results with the topical vs. the shampoo I could probably begrudgingly add-in another topical since Cu Peptides are recommended to be used topicall EOD as well anyways right?

Decisions decisions. I appreciate the input.