Weird hairloss ?? wtf?? help

[BrianP]

3 months ago + - my hair started shedding a lot and it only stopped 1 month ago when i started with minoxidil, azelaic acid and keto shampoo..

At first i thought i had diffuse thinning (hairline and temples are intact NW1) even though none in my family has ever had diffuse thinning.. only receeding hairlines (father, brother, grandfathers, grandgrand fathers)..

So i took some pics and saw some diffuse thinning on top but it was weird cuz it was on 1 spot but i knew **** about hairloss so i thought it was just normal diffuse thinning..

But then i was browsing the net these days and i came up with this: Tellogen Effluvium

EDIT, ADDED 10 PICS, 2 WITH EACH HAIR BROOSH (WITH AND WITHOUT FLASH, BOTH UNDER STRONG DIRECT LIGHT FROM SEALING), SOAKING WET HAIR FOR BETTER VIEW, IM ADDING THE REST OF THE PICTURES ON MY POST UNDER THIS ONE CUZ CANT ADD ANYMORE HERE..




These pictures have my hair dry brooshed mostly back and/or up:



Well as u can see the flaw doesnt show very well but if my hair is wet or under very strong light.. or even dry but not comboed it looks something like this


I have no picture right now with it wet... But its like the middle part of my head like on first link of the picture..

Its very thinned out and it looks like women's hairloss pattern its ****ing scarying me cuz i have been on the regimen for 1 month and no regrowth yet..

Could this be a hairloss pattern that is just very rare for men?.. My hairloss has stop ever since i started with the products..

If i do have Tellogen effluvium or w/e.. can i get my hair back? how?

Also my mother, grandmother suffer from hypothiroidism

My brother has some weird levels of thyroid too

I did a blood test and the doctor said i had hypothyroidism (very mild), he said it wouldnt make much difference if i took the meds now but since its a genetic disease i should start taking t3 or t4 cuz it would only get worse.. Could this be the only sympton of hypothiroidism? Cuz i havent had any...

I swear im gonna ****ing shave my head if i dont get that middle section in normal shape again -.-'
pls help me

Tomorrow i will take a picture with my hair wet and brooshed back and front just to show EXACTLY how my hair is looking in the middle section from the front to the back of the head

 

[alex85]

How many hairs did you shed before treatment? Combing, washing your hair, etc.

 

[BrianP]

How many hairs did you shed before treatment? Combing, washing your hair, etc.

What do u mean bro?

EDIT: ADDING PICS

 

[zzzzz]

^he means when you wash your hair with shampoo or something how many hairs were on your hand. Chances are it is not telogen effluvium but rather male pattern baldness. Just because you don't have anyone in your family with diffuse thinning doesn't mean you can't have it

 

[BrianP]

^he means when you wash your hair with shampoo or something how many hairs were on your hand. Chances are it is not telogen effluvium but rather male pattern baldness. Just because you don't have anyone in your family with diffuse thinning doesn't mean you can't have it

Did u see the picture link?

The thinning part is in the middle but not a circle.. its exactly like the tellogen effluvium pictures i find.. I am asking if anyone has ever seen male pattern baldness with that pattern lol.. cuz i havent so im asking if u have because im not going bald on my hairline.. im not going bald on my temples.. im not going bald on the whole top of my head.. im not going bald on the back of my head..

What i have is a thinned zone with a shape of a stripe that goes from the front of my head to the back like on the link i posted in my first post but you probably didnt see lol

And when i was shedding before i used to have like 10-20 hairs when i washed and a few too many on my pillowcase.. also whenever i put my hands throught my hair i would get 1 or 2 strings..

Ever since i started i get like 1-5 hairs during shower.. same amount on my pillowcase per night and none when i put my hands throught my hair..

I will ask again.. before posting please take a look at the link i posted of how my thinned zone looks.. and it only shows under strong light from top, when my hair is wet and when its brooshed back or to the front

 

[zzzzz]

from the pics it might just be the way your hair is. Your hair is so thick and the length obscures what would be any unusual features. The shedding you mentioned sounds like diffuse thinning to me. The reason I don't think it is telogen effluvium is because so many people come on here and self diagnose themselves as having Telogen Effluvium when really they just have male pattern baldness and are in a state of denial. No one will notice the hair loss so you just need to wait and see if it developes into male pattern baldness cause right now no one will be able to tell you whether it is Telogen Effluvium or not

 

[BrianP]

from the pics it might just be the way your hair is. Your hair is so thick and the length obscures what would be any unusual features. The shedding you mentioned sounds like diffuse thinning to me. The reason I don't think it is telogen effluvium is because so many people come on here and self diagnose themselves as having Telogen Effluvium when really they just have male pattern baldness and are in a state of denial

Ok, until what time are u gonna be online on the forum?

Im gonna take a shower soon then i'll post a pic with my hair wet brooshed back and front under light with and without flash then u'll tell me what u think..

and BTW i think my hair has like 2 inches at the most.. its not that long

Also i thought i had diffuse thinning for the past 3 months and i accepted it thats why i started the regimen lol.. the only reason i think it could be Telogen Effluvium is because of the thinning pattern that i hadnt noticed before, its not about denial bro... I have been using my hair buzzed on 2 for the past 4 years cuz i like it...

I like my hair but it wouldnt be the end of the world if i thinned bald and thats why im not ever taking finasteride.. sides arent worth it.. rather go bald

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Added pictures on first and second post, ty

 

[zzzzz]

Ok, until what time are u gonna be online on the forum?

Im gonna take a shower soon then i'll post a pic with my hair wet brooshed back and front under light with and without flash then u'll tell me what u think..

and BTW i think my hair has like 2 inches at the most.. its not that long

Also i thought i had diffuse thinning for the past 3 months and i accepted it thats why i started the regimen lol.. the only reason i think it could be Telogen Effluvium is because of the thinning pattern that i hadnt noticed before, its not about denial bro... I have been using my hair buzzed on 2 for the past 4 years cuz i like it...

I like my hair but it wouldnt be the end of the world if i thinned bald and thats why im not ever taking finasteride.. sides arent worth it.. rather go bald

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Added pictures on first and second post, ty

2% chance of having difficulty getting a boner for like 3 weeks is definitely horrible I would rather lose all my hair. Yeah that looks like nw5 diffuse thinning, primarily at the crown. Not very unusual that your hair line is intact my hair loss is the same

 

[BrianP]

2% chance of having difficulty getting a boner for like 3 weeks is definitely horrible I would rather lose all my hair. Yeah that looks like nw5 diffuse thinning, primarily at the crown. Not very unusual that your hair line is intact my hair loss is the same

From ur posts i can see that u r just ****ing retarded with no knowledge at all lol.. If i do have diffused thinning i believe it is very early stage luckly but im still trying to figure that out with some real experienced users lol

1st - 2% chance of having difficulty having a boner for 3 weeks is not even close to finasteride's side effect but ok bro
2nd - if i had NW5 diffuse thinning it would be noticeable by far with or without lightning with dry or wet hair

The only moment my hair shows to be thin is when its soaking wet under strong direct light.. i didnt think someone could be this dumb but alright..

Do some more research about finasteride.. DHT is a more potent hormone than testosterone itself.. taking finasteride will change ur personality in the long run, it will make u less manly when it comes to aggressiveness and everything that makes a man a man lol Without counting the soft erections, watery sperm, brain fog.. It is just not worth it.. hair isnt everything in life...

But u defenetly need to do some research on hairloss, Norwood scale and especially on finasteride and the side effects bro, just a little piece of advice before it is too late :/

EDIT: just to show u how a real NW4 or NW5 diffuse thinning looks like: http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/mbehr22/DSC00331.jpg

 

[zzzzz]

From ur posts i can see that u r just ****ing retarded with no knowledge at all lol.. If i do have diffused thinning i believe it is very early stage luckly but im still trying to figure that out with some real experienced users lol

1st - 2% chance of having difficulty having a boner for 3 weeks is not even close to finasteride's side effect but ok bro
2nd - if i had NW5 diffuse thinning it would be noticeable by far with or without lightning with dry or wet hair

The only moment my hair shows to be thin is when its soaking wet under strong direct light.. i didnt think someone could be this dumb but alright..

Do some more research about finasteride.. DHT is a more potent hormone than testosterone itself.. taking finasteride will change ur personality in the long run, it will make u less manly when it comes to aggressiveness and everything that makes a man a man lol Without counting the soft erections, watery sperm, brain fog.. It is just not worth it.. hair isnt everything in life...

But u defenetly need to do some research on hairloss, Norwood scale and especially on finasteride and the side effects bro, just a little piece of advice before it is too late :/

EDIT: just to show u how a real NW4 or NW5 diffuse thinning looks like: http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/mbehr22/DSC00331.jpg

It is from the FDA studies. It only has a 2% chance of sides roughly. You are arguing facts with anecdotal BS a few guys posted. That picture you posted looks almost the same as your pattern of hair loss except more severe when you compare it to the last two pics of your second post where your hair isn't combed to cover up the thinning pattern. How does finasteride cause brain fog? Women do not have nearly as much DHT as men. Are they in a constant situation of brain fog their entire lives? Did you have brain fog before puberty? You are relying on the cancer of the hairloss community which is anecdotal evidence from placebo effect/other causes than finasteride leading to scaremongering and all the other BS that is posted here. I make all my posts based on studies and facts

 

[Diffuser44]

How does finasteride cause brain fog?

Finasteride is first and foremost a 5-alpha reductase. It is known to primarily reduce type II and type III. It reduces type 1 by a very small amount, almost not even measurable.

So why is inhibiting 5-alpha reductase relevant to the brain? Because all three types are ubiquitously found in the brain. Also type II dht seems to have important roles in the non brain parts of our nervous system.

By inhibiting 5-alpha reductase you aren't just blocking a large percentage of testosterone to dht. You are also blocking other substrates. This was studied on much less in humans because the main concern at the time of finasteride studies was on the effect of dht.

Some of the other substrates include progesterone > dihydroprogesterone, deoxycortcosterone to dihydrodeoxycoricosterone. These have an effect on cerebral function by enhancing gamma-aminobutyric acid GABAergic inhibtion. They have antidepressant effects.

In the FDA label depression has been added as a side effect. Depression is correlated with brain fog.
There was also a tid bit in the FDA pamphlet that says finasteride crosses the blood brain barrier. That means the drug is actually floating into your brain... kind of a big deal if you ask me.

Now the percentage of decrease in the other substrates isn't nearly as high as dht. In fact its somewhere around 10 to 20 percent in most men. However, it could be that some men experience much higher decreases, or even have something else going on with the drug. In most men the drug has been well tolerated and most of the above information isn't even applicable since finasteride by no means blocks all or much of these substrates. I would expect DHT to be reduced between 50 - 90% for an average of 70%. The men on the higher end of the spectrum could be very well teh one's who have noticeable side effects. Any hormone altering drug taken long-term may have new side effects upon quitting it. That is where the scary post finasteride syndrome comes into play. This is also a rare occurence and probably nothing to worry about. You should just be aware of these things and know there is no certainty that it won't happen to you.

 

[BrianP]

It is from the FDA studies. It only has a 2% chance of sides roughly. You are arguing facts with anecdotal BS a few guys posted. That picture you posted looks almost the same as your pattern of hair loss except more severe when you compare it to the last two pics of your second post where your hair isn't combed to cover up the thinning pattern. How does finasteride cause brain fog? Women do not have nearly as much DHT as men. Are they in a constant situation of brain fog their entire lives? Did you have brain fog before puberty? You are relying on the cancer of the hairloss community which is anecdotal evidence from placebo effect/other causes than finasteride leading to scaremongering and all the other BS that is posted here. I make all my posts based on studies and facts

Diffuser has already answered ur question 4 me in a better way that i could lol

And yeah diffuse thinning is diffuse thinning, i do have the same pattern as that dude on the last pic i posted but it is a lot less severe.. U scared me for a while saying i had NW5 diffuse thinning lol.. mid and late stages of diffuse thinning are noticeable even with low lightning and dry hair..

Mine is only noticeable with wet hair and direct lightning from above.. That is why i asked someone who is experienced to tell me what they think.. I know im not a NW5 because i dont need to combo my hair when its dry to cover any thinned areas and even when its wet none has ever mentioned about me balding, not even hairdressers.. and i have asked them..

 

[Diffuser44]

I thought I had diffused thinning. It's just regular male pattern baldness in my case.