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Josh3706

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so what we have? what will going to be in the end of all those "breakthrough reasearch"? write it on... :thumbdown2:
 

Boondock

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Realistically, we may have some technology to improve upon hair tranplants by 2020.

At the moment, though, nothing is really available beyond meds and conventional surgery.
 

somone uk

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Josh3706 said:
so what we have? what will going to be in the end of all those "breakthrough reasearch"? write it on... :thumbdown2:
improved grammar :innocent: :innocent:

the breakthrough is just we have managed to multiply a hair or 2 in a human body, if i was ot bet on when we can have hm i would say about 2016 ish at the earliest but i do welcome any results that enable that to be much earlier
 

andrei_eremenko

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till 2016 I will have no hair maybe on my head...really sucks this baldness...i fed up with this...with everything relating to hair...we are just some guys trying to deal with this...but I took a look at the older posts with older users...those users are not here anymore posting...they have accepted the ugly baldness...and I bet we will do so...every other generation will do the same as we did...f*** baldness...and all the people that are taking advantages of us...selling meds and bad transplants and chemical or natural formula that are doing nothing...maybe in 100 years we will get rid of this...
 

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andrei_eremenko said:
till 2016 I will have no hair maybe on my head...really sucks this baldness...i fed up with this...with everything relating to hair...we are just some guys trying to deal with this...but I took a look at the older posts with older users...those users are not here anymore posting...they have accepted the ugly baldness...and I bet we will do so...every other generation will do the same as we did...f*ck baldness...and all the people that are taking advantages of us...selling meds and bad transplants and chemical or natural formula that are doing nothing...maybe in 100 years we will get rid of this...

I agree with this, basically. Baldness is our destiny. We will adjust, because we will have to.
 

Josh3706

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Ok guys now let us try to be optimistic
and belive me this thing will become faster then what u worte, until the try to do something ho to the succes story see what people have done with minixi finpecia and nizoral they never tought to make such a change so be optimistic try to do somthing about it an don't give up and belive me all the companies wanting this cure ther is full of money on it and full off saddness and don't belive on forums and people that writing their opinion just because it was in the past years just keep on updating and be aware for somting new and very importend with an optimistic thinking.

Be strong and and with faith people :jackit:
 

Matt Skiba

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I think one thing to keep in mind is that many, many of the really good looking people out there aren't the strongest people on the inside. So if you gain strength with how you are now, you really can do pretty good.

Honestly I do think this will come out by the time I turn 30, in the meanwhile I plan to gain much strength on the inside, and work out my body as well. This way in the end I'll have much more character than most people who never lost any hair.

I just find it brutal how finasteride gives me sides so I can't take it, and this started when I was only 19. I would honestly have a much easier time accepting this if it started sometime in my 30s.
 

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Matt Skiba said:
I think one thing to keep in mind is that many, many of the really good looking people out there aren't the strongest people on the inside. So if you gain strength with how you are now, you really can do pretty good.

Honestly I do think this will come out by the time I turn 30, in the meanwhile I plan to gain much strength on the inside, and work out my body as well. This way in the end I'll have much more character than most people who never lost any hair.

I just find it brutal how finasteride gives me sides so I can't take it, and this started when I was only 19. I would honestly have a much easier time accepting this if it started sometime in my 30s.

This is a much better attitude, and is what I've been trying to convey on here for months.

You'll be much better off if you put HM to the back of your mind, and then maybe get it as a surprise several years down the line. It'll be a wonderful bonus for your life, but you won't have relied upon.

The alternative and rather sad attitude is that which many seem to take: cross your fingers, delude yourself, and put your life on hold until this comes along. If you put your life on the backburner while you wait for this, I'm afraid you may never get it back again.
 

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In the next 5 years; minding the next-gen cures - we will probably see improvement in the following:

1. Shampoos and their efficacy for treating hair loss. Current producers such as Nisim, DS Labs, etc... are updating their formulas roughly every year with new ingredients, and there are some new players coming into the market. Overall effectiveness will always remain fairly low I'd imagine; applying some ingredients for just a few minutes each day isn't going to stop baldness, but it will slow things down.

2. Topical agents, particularly saturated niches such as minoxidil, spironolactone, etc... where there are several suppliers all competing with each other and updating their formulas, releasing new products, etc... I would say that topical applications of finasteride might also take route; but I think there will be too much fear of side-effects from exposed finasteride on the hair carrying over to pregnant women, etc... - such a fear would be very well grounded.

As for next-gen stuff; we have a bunch of different companies with prospective products (others have can tell more about to you than I can).

Gene therapy is ultimately the only 'cure' as such; throughout the last couple of decades it has been employed in clinical trials and experiments on humans to attempt to treat various serious problems such as Parkinsons disease, cancer, etc... with varying results thus far. As hair loss is not so serious; I think we should rule out any help from that direction for at least another decade or so.
 

somone uk

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theShade said:
In the next 5 years; minding the next-gen cures - we will probably see improvement in the following:

1. Shampoos and their efficacy for treating hair loss. Current producers such as Nisim, DS Labs, etc... are updating their formulas roughly every year with new ingredients, and there are some new players coming into the market. Overall effectiveness will always remain fairly low I'd imagine; applying some ingredients for just a few minutes each day isn't going to stop baldness, but it will slow things down.

2. Topical agents, particularly saturated niches such as minoxidil, spironolactone, etc... where there are several suppliers all competing with each other and updating their formulas, releasing new products, etc... I would say that topical applications of finasteride might also take route; but I think there will be too much fear of side-effects from exposed finasteride on the hair carrying over to pregnant women, etc... - such a fear would be very well grounded.

As for next-gen stuff; we have a bunch of different companies with prospective products (others have can tell more about to you than I can).

Gene therapy is ultimately the only 'cure' as such; throughout the last couple of decades it has been employed in clinical trials and experiments on humans to attempt to treat various serious problems such as Parkinsons disease, cancer, etc... with varying results thus far. As hair loss is not so serious; I think we should rule out any help from that direction for at least another decade or so.
there are no hairloss shampoos and only 2 treatments, the rest are snake oils

in all truth we havn't had a new product in 13 years!
 

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somone uk said:
there are no hairloss shampoos and only 2 treatments, the rest are snake oils

in all truth we havn't had a new product in 13 years!

Well Ketoconazole is a shampoo-borne ingredient. Most people agree that it has at least some level of efficacy. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Ket discovered and added to what became the 'big 3' during the 2000's? Would make it a little newer than 13 years then. Perhaps in the next 5 years, shampoo as made by Natural Labs (Revita) and some other companies, will increase in effectiveness. This is what these companies have been attempting thus far in any case - and have been adding a wide-range of ingredients to their shampoos, most of which have at least a little scientific backing to them. Still, out of all hair-loss treatements, shampoos are always of course going to be the least effective.

Apart from shampoos, there have been many other new products within the past 13 years. They have used the same ingredients, but by most accounts the concentrations, skin absorption agents, etc... have been refined and as a result you get products such as nanominox for example, which from what I heard are more effective than regular minoxidil, or is this not so?

And minoxidil and spironolactone don't seem to be snakeoils, although the latter seems to be rather mild and less effective. Perhaps there is room for improvement with spironolactone too.
 

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it sucks i know.. now everything seems dead ... this section and the "new treatments" section are dead...
just don't say we haven't had new treatments. Fluridil=eucapil works, period. RU works for many, and when it works, they seem to do very well (halt hair loss basically).
 

somone uk

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theShade said:
somone uk said:
there are no hairloss shampoos and only 2 treatments, the rest are snake oils

in all truth we havn't had a new product in 13 years!

Well Ketoconazole is a shampoo-borne ingredient. Most people agree that it has at least some level of efficacy. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Ket discovered and added to what became the 'big 3' during the 2000's? Would make it a little newer than 13 years then. Perhaps in the next 5 years, shampoo as made by Natural Labs (Revita) and some other companies, will increase in effectiveness. This is what these companies have been attempting thus far in any case - and have been adding a wide-range of ingredients to their shampoos, most of which have at least a little scientific backing to them. Still, out of all hair-loss treatements, shampoos are always of course going to be the least effective.

Apart from shampoos, there have been many other new products within the past 13 years. They have used the same ingredients, but by most accounts the concentrations, skin absorption agents, etc... have been refined and as a result you get products such as nanominox for example, which from what I heard are more effective than regular minoxidil, or is this not so?

And minoxidil and spironolactone don't seem to be snakeoils, although the latter seems to be rather mild and less effective. Perhaps there is room for improvement with spironolactone too.
i am not happy with the evidence for spirio or nizoral and i haven't really come across any credible physician that would recommend either
 

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dudemon said:
I know this may sound dumb, but I wonder if it would be feasible:

Instead of doing all this BS, they should work on a method to regrow a whole entire scalp in a lab, and then perfect a "scalp transplant" procedure and do the whole damn thing all at once. Why not? The world's first "face transplant" has now been done.

Perhaps a scalp transplant could come next ... :dunno:
The faces in face transplants come from dead bodies.

What you are describing would be the biggest breakthrough in medicine: the harvesting of organ clones without cloning an entire organism.
From what I understand, there has been some progress (like growing non-functional ears in rats bodies), but it's still science fiction.

And again, the scalp transplant is never going to happen. As much as everyone complains, it is only a cosmetic issue.
The ethical problems are so bad, and the fact that the "disease" affects overwhelmingly old white males (and only available to rich old white males) makes the research of such a thing impossible
 

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i can imagine bald men "taking care" of NW1's to make the waiting list go faster..... :whistle: ........................................................(Oni-style)
 

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dudemon said:
They could grow part of the human body (like a scalp with hair) using the host's DNA so no anti-rejection drugs would be required.
Growing just a few thousands of hair to be transplanted, instead of a whole scalp with hair, is not much simpler? Yet we are not even close.
 
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