trying to figure something out....

[Newbaldy84]

If castration stops hair loss in its tracks then what is the problem of using some kind of topicals that will create castration like environment on your scalp and stop hairloss. I am not talking about internals that make you a woman. So let me wonder a little here

We damn sure need to block DHT
we have finasteride and dutasteride. If we want that castration like environment we choose dutasteride as it blocks like almost all DHT.
Than we have Testosterone
are there any topicals that block testosterone only on your scalp and not throughout your whole body?
Fluridil comes to mind. Is there anything else?

So if we have dutasteride that blocks DHT and fluridil os something different that blocks T and I think the whole androgenic aspect of balding is coverd and you can enjoy your hair till you old age with maybe some loss at the old age which is considered natural.
Now this case scenario is for people just starting to loose their hair as we know how hard is it to regrowth so right now I am on a mission to find that perfect combination that will create castration-like environment on my scalp and not in my body so I will stop further loss permanently.

 

[Bryan]

Unfortunately, the topical antiandrogens that we have available to us probably aren't terribly effective. Nobody knows for sure to what extent (if any) that fluridil works, and spironolactone seems to me to be only rather mediocre in effectiveness. RU58841 would probably be the best, but it's painfully difficult and expensive to obtain.

 

[Newbaldy84]

But do you agree with my theory on permanently stopping hairloss with ingibiting 90 something % of dht and Super effective antiadrogen?


Curently it' been a year since I started my treatment I am slowly recovering from my huge shed that took place right at the start when I was just using minoxidil. I haven't gotten back everything yet especially my front but it's iproving in a slow rate.

Right now I am on
finasteride
FLURIDIL
APPLE POLY TABLETS

I'll give this couple more months and will evaluate my hair and then I will propably pick regimen that it my opinion is the best to stop hair loss permanently and get some more regrowth since my loss is recent.

I think this is ultimate regimen to STOP I repeat STOP PERMANENTLY HAIR LOSS

dutasteride- block DHT
Fluridil- antiandrogen (possibly the best we have right now) used at night
KETO MOUSE-(blocks Testosterone and DHT with new and improve penetrative system that was used in that recent study) used in the morning.

THAT's it!
3 things mainly focused DHT T and other adrogens which will be blocked so the hair will grow like on normal non balding person.

I know that no one has tried this regimen yet. I know one guy that tried dutasteride + fluridil and said it's the best combo ever for hairloss but I want to go one step further and add Keto mouse which will block T and other androgens.

 

[Bryan]

But do you agree with my theory on permanently stopping hairloss with ingibiting 90 something % of dht and Super effective antiadrogen?

Sure. That theory is sound. Implementing it in the Real World is something else, though...

 

[I_Hate_DHT]

ohh.. noo.. one more time with this sh-it

you know what?? yes, go and castrate yourself.. or even better, go and do what you are saying in your theory.. block 90+ of your DHT...

and then come back in 10 years.. i want to see your full head of shiny female hair and you huge boobies!!!

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

ohh.. noo.. one more time with this sh-it

you know what?? yes, go and castrate yourself.. or even better, go and do what you are saying in your theory.. block 90+ of your DHT...

and then come back in 10 years.. i want to see your full head of shiny female hair and you huge boobies!!!

uh no

 

[Newbaldy84]

ohh.. noo.. one more time with this sh-it

you know what?? yes, go and castrate yourself.. or even better, go and do what you are saying in your theory.. block 90+ of your DHT...

and then come back in 10 years.. i want to see your full head of shiny female hair and you huge boobies!!!

Listen dude you don't have to take it out on me just because your bald. Some of us are trying diffrent things that might or might not work long term. When you known you'r in the male pattern baldness bussiness you have to search constantly and put some of these theories to the test. I know there is a thin line between how far you can go and keep your hair without putting your health on the line and that's what I am trying to figure out and you'r not helping at all.

I aslo wonder about something here and maybe someone will help me answer this question. dutasteride blocks 90% of DHT but at the same time it raises T levels so theoreticaly speaking it shouldn't give you side effects like gyno right?

 

[CCS]

Bryan once posted a study with hampster flank organ. It is a big ball of sebum glands that expands in the presents of androgens, especially DHT.

They looked at how much the hampster flank organ shrank after the following:
Castration: 75%
Topical RU58841: 60%
Spironolactone: 30-40%

You are best off combining interal finasteride (incase the RU drops miss a spot on your scalp) with topical RU58841 and revivogen to get the best androgen blocking. Who knows if it would be better or worse than castration hair effects.

Use topical applepoly to help with the stuff that happens after some androgens get to the receptor, and add retinoic acid to downregulate the androgen receptors. Apple poly also has some growth stimulants in it.

Nizoral is so easy to add that you might as well add it. Put apple poly in your shampoo too, incase it will help.

 

[CCS]

I suggest using 2% RU with retin-A. Also add 1% apple poly from bulk powder to the mix, or also add 1% minoxidil if it will all stay in solution.


A good liquid solution is such that
1. it does not evaporate too soon.
2. it has a low thickness
3. the medicine is more soluble in the scalp than it is in the liquid
4. the liquid does not dissolve scalp oils well
5. it has penetration enhancers
6. it is not inflammatory, and is not toxic


EGCG is a strong androgen receptor blocker, but there are not enough studies to know what vehicle would work best, and how it compares to RU and spironolactone. You can buy EGCG for much less than RU.